New York man sentenced to 25 years to life for fatally shooting woman who pulled into wrong driveway

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New York man sentenced to 25 years to life for fatally shooting woman who pulled into wrong driveway
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Great news. Fuck this guy.

Certified redneck gun nut here: I also say fuck that guy.

I was literally thinking about this case when turning around in someone's driveway this week. Great precedent for conservatives who believe minorities are around every corner trying to take their homes.

Yank the handbrake and do a 180 in the street. It's for your own safety, after all!

You can't ticket me officer! I was just trying not to get shot!

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"I'm in danger :)"

I was just trying not to get shot!

I worry this is a valid excuse for missing school, sneaking out of a concert, doing doughnuts on a lawn, etc.

Pistols are lethal a mile out from where they were fired. Can you imagine how many guns are within a mile radius in many parts of America ?

It seems taking a trip to Mexico is also a valid way to escape gun violence.

Canada would be. Mexico's homicide rate is almost 5x higher than the USA.

Source?

Google "us homicide rate" and then "mexico homicide rate". It'll take you 5 seconds.

Apparently it's only bad for Mexicans:

Using those figures, the murder rate of U.S. citizens in Mexico was around 0.26 per 100,000 visitors, significantly lower than the rate in the United States.

Tourists choose the safest areas of the country to visit, and they don't stay very long, so yeah that makes sense. You're not really escaping gun violence in the USA if you only leave the country for a few days, though.

While shooting someone for turning around in your driveway is absolutely ridiculous, I'd also say turning around in some rando's driveway to be on the rude side.

It happens all the time and only takes 5 seconds tops. It has probably happened to you multiple times and you never noticed.

I also have a downslope driveway that ices up in the winter, and have had someone hit my car and take off doing it, so yeah I'd rather they didn't. I also respect people's private property.

Things might be different in the US, but here in NZ the first meter or two off the road is usually road reserve, which is council property. That's where footpaths/sidewalks, street trees, and utilities are run.

The bit of your driveway that is actually yours doesn't start until about where your front fence is, if you have one.

Nope - absolutely the same here. There's typically a stretch of property facing the street and potentially in an adjacent alley where the homeowner is responsible for basic maintenance (mowing the grass) but it's used for utility access and may be taken off they decide to widen the roads. I'm sure exceptions exist, but less commonly.

Hell, one of the houses I looked at when I moved had an easement about farmers taking cows across the yard (probably leftover from the 1700s, but still).

Arguably your driveway, front walk, and front step/porch is s there expressly for other people to use. Sure, wandering around the front yard of someone you don’t know is rude/disrespectful, as is hitting their car, but you’re providing a well defined way for anyone to approach your house, so really can’t object to them using it

I also respect people's private property.

That's about the most asinine way you possibly could have ended that sentence. You almost had my sympathy for why you feel the way you do until said that.

I respect people. If a person I respect has property, by the transitive property, the property gets a sort of respect.

To an extent I agree to respect people's property, but I think community takes precedent here. People shouldn't fear for their lives if they need to turn around. If you're that fearful of people you need to live somewhere without roads

It's turning around, not seeing the end of the driveway. Only uses the public part of the driveway anyway. Get your head out of your ass.

I've known a lot of gun nuts and none of them were psychopathic, no matter their politics. This guy isn't a gun nut, he's a monster.

Where does one get this certification and does it require building things out of beer cans?