Former President Trump is found guilty in historic New York criminal case

News@lemmy.world – 440 points – 1 months ago

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I’ll only believe it when he’s in jail. Which there is a possibility of now. Has anyone noticed he is scowling in every picture the past few months? He thinks since his mug shot he is Al Capone or something. It seems in almost every picture I can remember he’s smiling ear to ear, like a pig in shit. He’s a snake oil conman not a gangster

There's nothing to believe or not believe. This is pure fact. Donald Trump is now a convicted felon

34 time felon. The "christian" party of law and order is going to have a lot to answer for voting for a cheating husband, lier, and now a felon x34. Just to name enough that if it was a Democrat the republikkklows would have pitch forks and fire ready while losing their fucking minds.

His supporters already believe he's innocent, and literally nothing will change their minds (if anything would, it would have happened already). The man could start carrying around a pitchfork and surgically implant horns and people would continue in their delusion.

My main hope from all of this is that he sees jail time, and is less able to campaign. Getting him out of the news is probably the best thing for the country.

That's why I enjoy arguing with them that he's literally the antichrist / false prophet.

What's 34 more pieces of information for them to ignore on top of the mountain that's already there?

He is an exemplary christian.

My thoughts exactly.

This changes nothing, they will still vote for him.

Progressives had better get their guns now before the Christian Fascists get into power.

Good luck with the civil war.

Exactly. Even if he gets an appeal, even if he wins such an appeal, even if his sentence gets commuted or otherwise obstructed or diluted, we can truthfully refer to him forever and always as a convicted felon on 34 counts.

There is no way he's going to jail over this. I mean I wish, but I don't think that sentence would be consistent with similar cases. This is just the appetizer. He needs to be found guilty in a case with teeth like the classified documents.

There haven't been any similar cases to this

He absolutely still won't see prison, but it's not because of sentencing guidelines

There haven't?

Being an ex-president isn't what it would be compared to.

There absolutely have been felony falsified records cases with first time offenders. His political status makes the case noteworthy but since our laws don't treat him as being different from anyone else (at least until the Supreme Court rules on that), there is plenty of precedent here.

The judge did indeed treat him very differently when he was in contempt, so I very much doubt he will receive equal treatment now. He will be treated with kids gloves and given the extra light sentencing. I expect some strongly worded speech, at most.

For sure. My point was no one gets jail, so Trump certainly won't, and there will be no room to complain he's getting preferential treatment because the absolute most he can get is a slap on the wrist. If the judge decided to go absolute ham and jail him due to how egregious it is in the context of a presidential election, it would be appealed and thrown out immediately.

Some folks are holding out faint hope for jail, but that will not happen and would play right into Trump's hand if it did.

Best outcome would be if Merchan gives him 4 years of probation, just in case he wins the election. That turns into prison time if he commits another crime.

Which there is a possibility of now.

0% chance he sees the inside of a cell, don't get your hopes up. Not from this case.

He's the Thomas Midgley Jr of politics, a bumbling harbinger of doom, another unheeded cautionary tale in the litany of unintended consequences we call history.