Piracy is cool, but I prefer to use community-driven software rather than ones driven by corporate profits. I prefer a model where many can contribute to it, fork it, and for which making integrations is much easier thanks to its openness.
Do you donate for the efforts?
Yes
Not OP but still good.
It takes many small efforts to make a big change! :)
Hell yeah
Not that I condone piracy, but I thought photoshop switched to a SaaS model from CS6 or so that made it unlikely to be pirated?
It's still possible and last time I used it, it was about as easy as can be.
When I last did it, you just downloaded the regular program, installed it, then you ran a patcher and that was it. This was a couple years ago now, but Adobe already had their current business model.
Yup. The only real difference is the pricing model, the program is pretty much the same.
I rememeber they tried offering online libraries of stuff for download to justify the subscription for some products.
Last time SWIM used a patcher, it came with a malware dropper. Is that still how this "free" works?
Sometimes yes.
Would you describe it further? I don't see how coming to a subscription-based model makes it not piracy. I feel like I miss something there.
I died a little inside by remembering that I was there when their lifetime CS licenses were sold and that licensing servers went offline at least a dozen of years ago... On the other hand, it raises a question if breaking CS versions is a piracy if they are abandoned. There's no way to use them even if you are a paid customer wanting to install it on your new PC.
Again, I don’t condone piracy.
It used to be that you could install a legitimate Adobe and use then the only thing you would need is a key generator that would open the software. In essence, the entire software is located on your computer.
I was under the possibly mistaken impression that they took away the ability to register offline, and put the license server online. In other words, you’d have to patch the code or fake the license server to do accomplish the method of years prior
Iirc they already validate licence online long before going subscription only.
CC is very piratable.
It is, yes. They do a ton of really small updates all the fucking time now, sometimes breaking critical shit, sometimes fixing things. (I don't remember which version it was that ended support for PANTONE; now you have to pay for a subscription to PANTONE also, and the plug-in is trash and buggy as hell.) Since it wants to be always connected to the internet now, it's more of a pain in the ass to pirate, although it's likely still possible.
I have to use it for my job, so my company pays for it. But TBH, if you're an industry professional, there's really not any viable options on the market. Half the stuff clients send to me are in proprietary formats.
Yarr, ye by digging yourself a Mass Grave if you be running them Next Gen programs of the P variety.
Honestly, though, how long is that going to work for you? Windows 10 runs out of service like next year, sooner for most versions. It's just not sustainable.
You can still pirate Windows 11 matey. And don't forget Win 10 LTSC edition still has support until 2027.
Yeah but then you would have to deal with Windows 11 which is gross. I think only the IoT version of 10 has support the longest.
Lol. And yes, Windows 10 IoT LTSC version has support until 2032.
Windows 11 LTSC was also released recently for anyone that has to use 11.
I’m trying to figure out what to do with my lab workstation. If I want to mess with the settings of my Reolink cameras windows seems to be the only stable option sadly. I’ve tried their android software and it’s garbage. The web interface is very limited after enabling it in the settings via their software. Wine has not worked well for me. It’s an isolated lan so it’s not a huge deal but I really wish there was a Linux build. I love the hardware and don’t want to replace the physical cameras. Just so stupid they won’t support a Linux client.
I feel that. I use an old Canon EOS model and the HDMI output isn't clean so I was hyped when they released webcam software for windows...
but they charge $5 a month to use it in anything other than 720p...
Picking good devices to use is hard.
Have you looked into configuring them directly from your NVR? Or third party options? I did a quick search and saw a list of several that as far as I can tell can display Reolink streams (though I haven’t confirmed any can configure the cameras):
I really appreciate your comment but yes, I use frigate on an HAOS system. It works incredible and I have six of their cameras running along with four others from a different brand. The other four I can manipulate completely via Firefox on HAOS. The Reolink cameras just have no other option than doing the initial setup and advanced configurations from windows. So I keep a lab pc connected to that environment just so if I want to tweek anything like fps, resolution, network settings (IP, gateway, etc) that I’m able to do so. The web interface once enabling the https service on the camera has garbage capabilities compared to my other cameras. It’s not a huge deal, I haven’t had to get into them for advanced settings in a few months but it really annoys me that I can’t do initial configuration and advanced settings from Linux.
Run a windows vm?
You can use windows 11 too? Just run an activation script and boom
Yeah but Windows 11 is even worse than Windows 10 which was already a step down from Windows 7.
True, i hate windows too but there are always debloaters and privacy scripts thatll help a little bit
Windows 10 LTSC ftw.
Pirating Windows for what? It works as full version even if you let it be, watermark does nothing.
If you want actual libre alternatives - Manjaro GNOME Linux, Krita with the AI Image Generation plugin. I'm sure someone else can suggest one for the third one.
Krita has a better brush engine and the AI plugin is amazing. The live AI painting with layers is so cool. It's like magic
When monopolies exist. How everyone didn’t care for the last 25 years is even wilder. Adobe has been controlling the design communities forever *flips water bottle
Piracy is cool, but I prefer to use community-driven software rather than ones driven by corporate profits. I prefer a model where many can contribute to it, fork it, and for which making integrations is much easier thanks to its openness.
Do you donate for the efforts?
Yes
Not OP but still good.
It takes many small efforts to make a big change! :)
Hell yeah
Not that I condone piracy, but I thought photoshop switched to a SaaS model from CS6 or so that made it unlikely to be pirated?
It's still possible and last time I used it, it was about as easy as can be.
When I last did it, you just downloaded the regular program, installed it, then you ran a patcher and that was it. This was a couple years ago now, but Adobe already had their current business model.
Yup. The only real difference is the pricing model, the program is pretty much the same.
I rememeber they tried offering online libraries of stuff for download to justify the subscription for some products.
Last time SWIM used a patcher, it came with a malware dropper. Is that still how this "free" works?
Sometimes yes.
Would you describe it further? I don't see how coming to a subscription-based model makes it not piracy. I feel like I miss something there.
I died a little inside by remembering that I was there when their lifetime CS licenses were sold and that licensing servers went offline at least a dozen of years ago... On the other hand, it raises a question if breaking CS versions is a piracy if they are abandoned. There's no way to use them even if you are a paid customer wanting to install it on your new PC.
Again, I don’t condone piracy.
It used to be that you could install a legitimate Adobe and use then the only thing you would need is a key generator that would open the software. In essence, the entire software is located on your computer.
I was under the possibly mistaken impression that they took away the ability to register offline, and put the license server online. In other words, you’d have to patch the code or fake the license server to do accomplish the method of years prior
Iirc they already validate licence online long before going subscription only.
CC is very piratable.
It is, yes. They do a ton of really small updates all the fucking time now, sometimes breaking critical shit, sometimes fixing things. (I don't remember which version it was that ended support for PANTONE; now you have to pay for a subscription to PANTONE also, and the plug-in is trash and buggy as hell.) Since it wants to be always connected to the internet now, it's more of a pain in the ass to pirate, although it's likely still possible.
I have to use it for my job, so my company pays for it. But TBH, if you're an industry professional, there's really not any viable options on the market. Half the stuff clients send to me are in proprietary formats.
Free trials 4 lyfe
In other words not free.
Gratis versus libre
Yarr, ye by digging yourself a Mass Grave if you be running them Next Gen programs of the P variety.
Honestly, though, how long is that going to work for you? Windows 10 runs out of service like next year, sooner for most versions. It's just not sustainable.
You can still pirate Windows 11 matey. And don't forget Win 10 LTSC edition still has support until 2027.
Yeah but then you would have to deal with Windows 11 which is gross. I think only the IoT version of 10 has support the longest.
Lol. And yes, Windows 10 IoT LTSC version has support until 2032.
Windows 11 LTSC was also released recently for anyone that has to use 11.
I’m trying to figure out what to do with my lab workstation. If I want to mess with the settings of my Reolink cameras windows seems to be the only stable option sadly. I’ve tried their android software and it’s garbage. The web interface is very limited after enabling it in the settings via their software. Wine has not worked well for me. It’s an isolated lan so it’s not a huge deal but I really wish there was a Linux build. I love the hardware and don’t want to replace the physical cameras. Just so stupid they won’t support a Linux client.
I feel that. I use an old Canon EOS model and the HDMI output isn't clean so I was hyped when they released webcam software for windows...
but they charge $5 a month to use it in anything other than 720p...
Picking good devices to use is hard.
Have you looked into configuring them directly from your NVR? Or third party options? I did a quick search and saw a list of several that as far as I can tell can display Reolink streams (though I haven’t confirmed any can configure the cameras):
And some proprietary options that have native Linux builds:
I really appreciate your comment but yes, I use frigate on an HAOS system. It works incredible and I have six of their cameras running along with four others from a different brand. The other four I can manipulate completely via Firefox on HAOS. The Reolink cameras just have no other option than doing the initial setup and advanced configurations from windows. So I keep a lab pc connected to that environment just so if I want to tweek anything like fps, resolution, network settings (IP, gateway, etc) that I’m able to do so. The web interface once enabling the https service on the camera has garbage capabilities compared to my other cameras. It’s not a huge deal, I haven’t had to get into them for advanced settings in a few months but it really annoys me that I can’t do initial configuration and advanced settings from Linux.
Run a windows vm?
You can use windows 11 too? Just run an activation script and boom
Yeah but Windows 11 is even worse than Windows 10 which was already a step down from Windows 7.
True, i hate windows too but there are always debloaters and privacy scripts thatll help a little bit
Windows 10 LTSC ftw.
Pirating Windows for what? It works as full version even if you let it be, watermark does nothing.
https://github.com/massgravel/Microsoft-Activation-Scripts. Use this and get that horrid watermark off your screen!
Yeah but u cant change personalization settings without hassle so why not run an activation script?
If you want actual libre alternatives - Manjaro GNOME Linux, Krita with the AI Image Generation plugin. I'm sure someone else can suggest one for the third one.
Krita has a better brush engine and the AI plugin is amazing. The live AI painting with layers is so cool. It's like magic
When monopolies exist. How everyone didn’t care for the last 25 years is even wilder. Adobe has been controlling the design communities forever *flips water bottle