Do you store all your media? And how?

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For a piracy-oriented community I'm surprised this isn't discussed as much.

Do you ever store media, or delete them after watching? How do you store them?

I personally have 12TB worth of hard drives (3x4TB) in a JBOD configuration. Been wanting to upgrade my hard drives (they're 6 years old) but I'm still a little skeptical of the helium drives and whether they will last...

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I don’t have tons of digital media so it’s stored on 2 4TB portable HDD’s.

I only regularly download and keep things that either aren’t available on streaming or are removed from streaming services.

But since the writers strikes I download most things I want to watch as the streamers aren’t getting any more of my money until they pay writers what they’re worth.

This is not to be taken as offensive just curious.

how does the writer strike change anything? youre still pirating are you not regardless?! I’m confused on how your ethics/ morals applied when they weren’t on strike.

Until the strike I was subscribed to Apple TV, Paramount+, Netflix, Disney+ and Amazon Prime so I don’t pirate unless what I want isn’t available on physical disc or streaming.

If a streaming service removes original content because they don’t want to pay residuals I’ll torrent it.

Likewise anything new that comes out during the strike I’ll torrent. Once they start paying the writers fairly and guarantee protections agains AI for writers and actors I’ll be more than happy to start giving them my money again. But as things stand the studios pocket 99% of the money hence the strikes.

I only store "rare old hard to get stuff that I loved a lot" but I just delete everything else after watching so I never have more than a 1TB drive half empty from which I also delete what I downloaded but will never watch after some time. All of that on my Raspberry pi home server with Emby and CasaOs.

This is the way. No point spending hundreds of dollars keeping up with the data imo.

Games and softwares: I store the installers, delete if I don't like it

Music: store them all, even if some songs in an album isn't my cup of tea

Videos: want to save all of them, but my storage is pretty small in the first place, so I pick the ones I really like

Ebooks: only downloaded a few, but still save them all

Mangas: usually save unless I don't really like it or no reason to reread

When I had 500gb of storage (cheap external SSD), I had a decent range of movies and tv, and whenever I finished watching a movie or series I would delete it unless I knew I would watch it again within the next year or so. Out of 500gb, I had about 200gb that was pretty static, and 300gb of space dedicated towards new stuff. I recently upgraded to a 4tb internal hdd for storage so I'm having more movies and tv available, but I still get rid of movies and tv that I likely won't rewatch within the next year. I have 125 ebooks downloaded but it's only at 400 MB so I'm not going to bother trimming down that collection except when I don't like a book.

Games and music are the two things I don't have an overwhelming urge to pirate, I mainly buy indie games on steam and pay $10 a month for the convenience of streaming music through tidal (I tried pirating my music with lidarr, but it was such a PITA to get everything I wanted, especially since I love trying new artists

4x 18TB (ironwolf)

2x 250GB (970 evos) SSD cache

SHR (1 disk redundancy)

in a synology DS918+ NAS,

gives me ~47TB usable space in one enclosure

and

4x 8TB (ironwolf)

RAID 5 (1 disk redundancy)

in a OWC Mercury Elite Pro Quad

gives me ~25TB usable space in the other

I have about 15TB of media stored, I like 4K HDR DV content and tend to rewatch stuff a lot. I don't store anything that I have access to on a streaming service (unless it's not available in 4K)

I store as much as I can on NAS. You never know when you'll have internet issues while still having power or when something will be pulled from the net.

I have ~115TB of spinning rust currently. I house them (collection of 8-14TB WD white labels) in a DS4243 in which I replaced the IOM3s with IOM6s. I have this hooked up to a R630 (via an H200 IT controller) running ESXi with several VMs including a Windows VM running SnapRAID+Drivepool to manage the storage. I have the pool setup as a network share and run a docker stack with in which I bind the storage in fstab to my *arr setup, nzbhydra, rdt-client, etc. Someday I may transition to a full Linux setup with freenas, but this setup has served me well for years.

May you please translate ELI5 this for me? I have a full attic of DvDs and VHS tapes I need to backup and your method sounds promising.

I used to store all my music on an HDD but the more, I thought about it. The less I did it. Still have about 68GB of music but won't continue doing so. Don't really keep movies or TV Shows stored, as I know, I will watch them once and then never again - Same thing for games.

Perhaps I will in the future when I can actually afford decent HDD/SSD's. I'm curious how other do it.

Storage space isn't as big a problem for music - for me, tv shows are the main issue.

I like to rewatch shows a lot in the background - I like having The Office or How I Met Your Mother on while i'm doing chores or something, so I have a lot of shows stored. It takes a lot of HDD space, but I also don't have to pay for 3 different streaming services just to watch 3 shows

Buy cheap 4 bay nas and 3-4 disks (3 disks minimum) and setup raid 5 which will allow one disk failure. If a disk fails, pop disk out, put new one in (equivalent size or larger) and it will rebuild.

You could probably try build one using normal pc hardware and freenas software, but I personally find a purpose built nas operating system less of a headache and fairly cost effective

i've been looking into snapRAID. It's software-based and seems to work great if you don't write/delete that much. Doesn't require a NAS setup too, it can work on an existing install and hard drives with existing data!

Since I mainly download music, yes I store it forever. Too much good stuff just disappears online especially stuff I listen to.

As for shows and movies, I download and save more obscure stuff, but I really watch TV/movies anyways so.

I currently have a 18tb drive that I got for like $140.

Same here, but nostalgy has pushed me to hold on that media dubbed in the language I grew with. I now live on a different country with same language, but the dub is way different.

Hard to find old 70's, 80's stuff

Thats a totally a fair thing to store, dubs of different languages tend to be worse preserved.

I store pretty much everything unless there is no chance for reuse. My current setup is a 4u unRAID server with 108TB of double parity protected storage (plus 2 2TB NVME drives in raid 1 for cache).

I'm finally settling up a NAS and media server myself beyond just an old gaming computer. What do you use to setup caching on your nvme drives?

The caching is a feature built into unRAID (which is the server OS I run. It's not free but it's a lifetime license for a super reasonable price. https://unraid.net/

Absolutely second Unraid, easy to set up, Parity drive gives you protection against drive failure and dockers are an immense bonus. I have Jellyfish as a docker to serve my media around my home or when I'm out and about. Can use Gelli on Android just to listen to the music on my server.

Other plus, Unraid is essentially a JBOD so you can increase its size when ever you need to.

Think I paid £60-70 about 8-9 years ago and it's been worth every penny.

Can't praise it enough.

I keep everything I download as long as it's of sufficient quality on many large HDD's. Most of my media is then served through Jellyfin. Considering the state of the internet recently I think it's important to download what you care about before it becomes unavailable.

Do you have all your hard drives connected to your computer/NAS or are they in cold storage? I have 6 HDDs/SSDs combined on my computer and no more available SATA/M2 slots...

Not all are connected, and I don't think it would be wise to do so in the long run anyway if I keep trying to preserve data like I am. Eventually I'll have a proper backup system and a dedicated NAS.

I have around 80TB comprised of 8-14TB WD drives (mostly Elements/EasyStore shucked from their cases) in my Fractal Design Define R6 case. I typically don't delete anything unless it was a user requested item thats no longer being used with little replayability (stuff like Survivor or other reality TV). Currently running it all on windows with SnapRAID and DrivePool to manage the storage.

I have Jellyfin set up a with a few drives in jbod on my server. I have the list of what media I have on it stored elsewhere though, and losing one of the drives wouldn’t be a tragedy. I usually stick already used ones into that role. My internet’s that fast that it would only take a week or so to re-download all 8TB. I use Sonarr & Radarr though, so it would also be trivial for me to automate that process.

Yes I do, I have 2 hard drives 8+5 with the 8TB one getting pretty close to full so I'll need to buy a new one pretty soon, I don't stream so I don't need something like a NAS setup with Plex or Kodi

I store my media, on mirrored disks the ones I scanned myself (to much work, mainly music), series are kept, some mirrored, some not. Movies are kept until I need more space. (I have about 6T mirrored and 8T unmirrored space for all data, including my backups, pictures,...

Anything I can download is pretty expendable, unless I really like it/it took a lot of time to get or find.

Currently have 2x8TB & 2x18TB in a ZFS vdev config on TrueNAS. So usable space is ~22TB and i store everything i load on there until it's really really not important anymore.

For me personally, I only keep things I find worth rewatching, so about 50% I delete after. Same with e-books. Games I don't really pirate (or only pirate them to see if I can run them on my computer). Usually I buy them on Steam and that's good enough, even though sometimes you lose access to them. I tend to not go back to older games.

So far. I only have 3TB in my NAS (RAID5) at the moment. I'll see if the money I save on streaming services will pay for another array by the time I run out of storage.

I just added a bunch of hard disks to my own computer, so my costs were pretty low - if I spread out the cost of my hard drives it's cost about $5 per month so far, and that number's still slowly decreasing every month.

When it comes to movies and series: I permanently store the best ones and immidiately delete the bad ones. Something in between I usually keep until I reach a ratio over 5. I just don't have a seperate huge drive to store everything

wait till you collection grows beyond a few TB :)

Well guess I'll buy another drive then. I also use qbittorrent with everything caterorized, like videos/movies/unwatched, or linux/arch (btw)

Given only 24Mbps of download speed split between everything in one household, keeping things likely to be rewatched backed up not only saves bandwidth, but also makes having a 4K TV somewhat worthwhile.

2x12TB in RAID1, but I'll switch to RAID6 when I have enough funds to get a rack mount NAS with 12 bays.

I have around 24TB of drives. 6TB Home Theater NAS made of HDD and Pi4. 2x 4TB as a backup for my NAS and some other files. 4TB SSD in my PC (78 games installed) and in my PS4 (150ish games installed). Important games I backed up, all movies, shows and documentaries are backed up, plus my files (photos, documents, pirated software, etc). Plus most important things like family photos and documents are backed up online (encrypted) and offline on sd card and flash drive.

Considering expanding of my collection.. Every show and movie I enjoy is added to my NAS. Same goes for games, but I tend to buy them when they're cheap or I'm so excited that I preorder. I don't play that much anymore. Last time I preordered Hogwards Legacy and before ME Legendary Edition.

I have one 12 TB and two 14 internal hard drives. I also have 6 external drives (two 12 TB, four 14 TB) for 2x redundant backups. All my new stuff and dynamic documents are stored on the 12 TB drive (so that I only have to update the backups for that drive frequently). When it gets fullish I migrate content over to the storage drives and update those backups. I've been doing this maybe twice a year.

I also have my dynamic files, photos, docs etc, set to auto backup twice daily to a remote backup.

I only delete content to replace with higher quality.

I haven't bothered with any sort of raid in nearly two decades. You need proper backups regardless so what's the point? If I have to run half my Plex library off a USB backup drive for a week while a new drive runs badsector and syncs up... who cares? Merging the drives as a JBOB is nifty and all, but adds complexity across the board without meaningful gain.

The good thing about JBOD is that it doesn't take much work to set up at all (just plug em in), and you can access them any time. I tend to rewatch old shows a lot.

No I don’t store anything. Can’t be bothered to do so anymore. Had plenty of disk failures in the past so I couldn’t be arsed to rebuild a new archive and let’s be honest how often do you actually rewatch anything.

Nowadays I just stream movies using Kodi and Seren with a torrent cache service like Alldebrid. Haven’t downloaded a movie since.

Really? You must be pretty unlucky - i don't want to tempt fate here, but I've only had a couple of bad sectors here and there with my hard drives!

I rewatch old shows a lot actually - i like to keep sitcoms playing in the background when doing chores.

Yeah their comment is very subjective lol. I started my Plex server when It's Always Sunny was taken off Netflix. I've had to reset my server a few times so I don't have total plays, but they're well past the hundreds.

Chores just aren't the same without something happening in the background.

And shucked drives make it fairly reasonably priced. I get my 5TB's for around $35

I store contents on 128GB BDXL Blu Ray discs, I like to have all the media easily accessible and don't want to degrade anytime I play it. If its larger than that I will put in on an SSD.

i own stock in western digital (meaning i have stacks of hard drives and a dock)

Synology 4 bay with SHR1 (1 disk failure) 12TB usable space.

With some USB disks lying around with unimportant data.

I only have a two bay NAS with 10 TB of RAM storage which I filled years ago lol.

Currently depending on solutions like Cloudstream and Stremio (honorable mention to Kodi with streaming add-ons).

Only 10 TB of RAM? I wouldn't complain if I were you :p

Well we are humans after all we were born to complain.

10 TB of RAM

I hope you mean hard disk space... otherwise I'm trying to imagine how many sticks of RAM you have there :)

(5) 4TB hard drives in a Truenas Core server with Sonarr, Radarr, NZBGet, and Plex plugins.

Kind of a pain to set up the plugins correctly but once it's running it's great.

I've got x2 2tb drives plugged into a dock. When they were getting full, I questioned why I was keeping half the stuff. With 100mb internet (some may laugh at that speed lol) there's no need to keep an abundance of easy to gets. I tend to keep only the hard to get or favourite stuff.

some may laugh at that speed lol

there's nothing funny about the ridiculous cable prices some places charge :( i used to have 15mbps until i moved and got 1gbps... seeing a tv show finish downloading in 3 minutes was an eye opening experience

14tb in my server as JBOD with 20tb in external drives for backups and some change for any extras.

I personally only store things that are hard to get again. Things like obscure domestic TV and really old movies. If it's something I can get again easily then I watch and delete.