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Meta announced that users on Threads will be able to see fediverse replies on other posts besides their own. In addition, posts that originated through the Threads API, like those created via third-party apps and scheduling services, will now be syndicated to the fediverse.
Note: You can't interact with Threads accounts from Lemmy, but you can interact with Threads accounts from MBin (and maybe PieFed), except if your instance is defederated from them obviously
There's POTUS account for example @potus@threads.net
Why not Lemmy?
Lemmy doesn't implement Mastodon (which is the fediverse version of Twitter), only their own Lemmy one (Reddit clone). Kbin and Mbin implement both, as does pyfedi/piefed.
Why does Lemmy not interact with Mastodon if the other two can?
Design choice by the creators.
Am I the only one who thinks that's a bad choice? The whole point of the fediverse is that all the things are connected.
What happened to Kbin btw? I used to be on there since the start but the page has been broken since a while for me
It was run by one guy who had health issues. So it shut down. Mbin is the main fork now.
Ah I see. Good thing someone continued it tho!
Because right now the Threads federation is still pretty one sided, the Fediverse users can reply to the Threads posts, but the Threads users can't see the Fediverse posts, only replies
And with how Lemmy works, you can't reply to the microblogging accounts, you can't reply to Mastodon's posts neither, so you can't get your replies federated
That doesn't seem right. I remember responding to a few mastodon threads from lemmy and I was able to see my reply on the other end.
lemmy devs just havent put in the effort, but its clear they are on that path.
Yep, pyfedi supports Mastodon integration just like mbin.
Not quite as good as Mbin. For example you can't follow someone on mastodon from PieFed. They can follow you, though.
Do regular Mastodon instances and clients play nicely with Threads?
I’ve been on Mastodon for a while and never seen a Threads user.
On paper it should play well, it appeared as Mastodon would on my Mbin instance. A lot of Mastodon instances have preemptively defederated from Threads though, so you need to shop around.
Or just don't federate with threads. Embrace, extend, extinguish is a thing
meta has not made using threads very easy for its users. only the technical or high visibility accounts seem to have cared to jump through the necessary hoops.
Yea, they play fine, I use Misskey fork as my main instance, and it even supports quotes
Maybe your instance have defederated from them? Also the Fediverse sharing is opt-in in Threads, so like 95% or more Threads users haven't turned it on, cause they have no idea it exists
Which fork?
Sharkey, but Threads quotes show up in basic Misskey as well
I tried regular misskey but I can't read Japanese
Understandable, I can't neither, that's why I use English-speaking instance
You can't connect to Threads using a Mastodon client but you can follow select Threads accounts from the Mastodon instance your client is connected to. Threads is still in what is basically a public beta. That's why there are currently no ads there either (but they were announced recently).
Great.
I joined the Fediverse to escape Facebook's toxic interpretation of communities, so Facebook is coming to the Fediverse instead.
Just great...
Blocking everyone and every community you see from Facebook's new parasite social media could be good, me thinks.
@Auster@lemm.ee You can just use an instance that is defederated from them, that's the beauty of the Fediverse
According to https://lemm.ee/instances your instance already blocks them for example
@ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org
can't you selectively block entire instances? you can in Boost
It's not just a matter of blocking Threads users.
Facebook is coming on here to slurp up data I don't want them to have, and enriching their own Threads ecosystem with Fediverse content they haven't lifted a finger to create.
Not to mention, when Threads users are able to fully interact in the Fediverse, do you really want that particular bunch to create noise in your communities? I don't. There's a reason why I avoid Facebook in all its forms.
right but if I block their instance, they can never interact with me and vice versa.
Uh.. this fediverse stuff is all on the public internet. Facebook could be slurping it up just as easily without joining at all.
Was commenting more generally, in case there's someone against Facebook in instances that don't block them.
And about lemm.ee, although the guy running it is strongly against defederation, I guess Facebook the company is too much even for him. "<.<
How can we know?
You should just join an instance that blocks threads.net. Fortunately there are many of such instances. Your current instance doesn't seem to defederate any other instance, which is kind of suspect on its own.
SDF is a very hands-off instance. I've seen many trolls in bad actors on there. It also has some management issues since it can go down for long periods of time.
The only reason I have an account there and the only reason I would encourage anyone to use it is because it's run by the SDF foundation and it will probably be around forever. Well at least as long SDF itself.
Check https://fedipact.online for instances that have defederated threads. Good luck! :)
Fedipact needs much more exposure. It's important to spread this message both because of Facebook's evil practices, but also that they favor hostile users and have atrocious moderation letting a lot of nasty shit slide that shouldn't.
Feel free to make a community or find one and link it here! :) i‘ll happily join and put in some work.
Feel free to post about it in !fedigrow@lemm.ee!
CC: @haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com
And why are they releasing it like this instead of releasing everything at once?
Because every step of the way, they need a flock of MBAs to figure out the answer to the question "How do we make money off of this?"
I'm rather guessing the other way around. Because they can't directly extract money from this, they can't justify to their shareholders to sit down full-time devs. Instead, this is a project solely run by interns and student.
I'm guessing because they don't want it to.
It is a different level of scale, mastodon has about 1 million users spread over a bunch of instances. Threads has over 200 million users on one instance. also due to the network nature of social media the amount of connections and messages sent through those connections can scale exponentially with the amount of users.
I don't think i've ever seen a Threads message in any of my Lemmy / Mastodon feeds. Perhaps I'm not mixing in the right circles?
Fediverse is not super far from original internet idea with the exception of convenient block feature. Let’s hope that’s enough to prevent the sequel.