50,000 reviews now. It's a shame, I used to play OW1 a lot even after they stopped providing new content for it. Came to OW2 and I just couldn't be arsed to grind for characters I don't have unlocked. You need to win 35 games, and since there's a basically forced 50% winrate that means you need to play 70 games to unlock a character each time. Wanted to play Ramattra, saw he's locked, uninstalled and didn't look back. The monetization is terrible. The balance feels worse than it's ever been.
This wouldn't be such a problem if they didn't literally SHUT DOWN OVERWATCH 1 to shove people into the cash shop grind sequel
Fuck everyone that played OW2
How stupid do you have to be to see this train wreck coming and still contribute.
Hopefully after OW2 and Diablo 4, people finally stop downloading Blizzard games.
I know next to nothing about neither Ow1 or OW2, but from the sound of it they turned OW2 into a game focused on grinding, where you can pay to skip (part of) the grind. Is my assessment correct? If so they must've looked at War Thunder and taken that idea.
Yes. OW1 cost money, but you got all the content. The only paid service was cosmetic outfits for the different characters. You could buy loot boxes for cosmetics. But you had all of the characters, maps, game modes, etc available to begin with. You got the whole game, then could grind for cosmetics.
OW2 takes that and flips it on its head. The game is free, but each character costs money. The problem is that they shut down OW1, so now the players who owned 1 are having to grind for everything. They’ve also had some weird server bugs, with players getting indefinitely locked out of characters they already own.
Wait. I bought overwatch 1 but stopped playing a few years ago. If I go back into overwatch I would have to grind for characters that I used to previously have access to?
No, this applies only to characters released in OW2. All the original characters should still be playable for free.
I personally have no problem with the monetization, but the balance is really, really bad.
I really don't need another subscription in my life
So don't? You get the new hero like a month or so later then. I haven't put a dime into ow since I bought it. You don't need the cosmetics. Let the dumb whales fund the game.
Have you played OW before?
I can't imagine a hero which wasn't OP on release, fuck that game and it's P2W subscription
Picking lifeweaver at his release was widely considered throwing.
Yeah, but honestly I don‘t think it ruins the game. Sure, it’s not the best idea, but I don‘t care too much. I actually care more about the fact that the gameplay currently sucks and is completely different to Overwatch 1. 5v5 and the overall balancing sucks.
The balance of OW2 is way better than OW1 though. OW1 was a boring shield-shooting simulator for the last 2 or 3 years of it's life.
That's not the balance, that's the gameplay. There are still balance problems like the era of Mercy damage amping.
And while they've solved the CC and barriers problem, they've made teamfights too swingy. With only 5v5 and a single op tank, teamfights are often basically over after a single death or a single Rez. Especially for the tank. That's just too much pressure, so nobody wants to tank anymore.
Shields were too strong in OW1, so much so that the meta revolved around having two shield tanks. How is that not a balance issue?
I agree there's too much pressure on the tank currently, but I'll definitely take that over the problems 6v6 OW had.
Because it's s shit game
From a shit company.
They earned their reputation pretty hard
unlike Baldur's Gate 3, absolutely everything about this game was designed specifically with microtrans in mind
Oh my God, you can't just say microtrans. The proper terminology is "gender dysphoric little person"
Actually that's the wrong use of that word in this context. It's actually a "queer questioning point of sale system" he's talking about.
could be short for microtransient, and then we're talking about little hobos.. and who doesn't want to talk about little hobos..
No no no thats also wrong, it stands for micro transmission. Ya know for small vehicles.
Even you got it wrong! They were talking about the micro figurines for transformers! How you could miss that!!!
They've been awful since Activision got involved. I knew that was the end the day the news broke, people told me I was wrong. I wish.
Also they sexually harassed an employee to suicide. That tells you all you need to know.
They were always awful. See: StarCraft Ghost
Haha yeah I remember that one :) That one really surprised people actually. Before that they had a good track record...
blizzard is ass. i hope they go bankrupt one day.
I stopped playing when they did not let people pick the same heroes. Played more for the fun and the chaos. Did not care if I won as long as I was having fun but the game went the pro gamer route.
Good, they absolutely fucking butchered the game just to sell cosmetics and heroes.
50,000 reviews now. It's a shame, I used to play OW1 a lot even after they stopped providing new content for it. Came to OW2 and I just couldn't be arsed to grind for characters I don't have unlocked. You need to win 35 games, and since there's a basically forced 50% winrate that means you need to play 70 games to unlock a character each time. Wanted to play Ramattra, saw he's locked, uninstalled and didn't look back. The monetization is terrible. The balance feels worse than it's ever been.
This wouldn't be such a problem if they didn't literally SHUT DOWN OVERWATCH 1 to shove people into the cash shop grind sequel
Fuck everyone that played OW2
How stupid do you have to be to see this train wreck coming and still contribute.
Hopefully after OW2 and Diablo 4, people finally stop downloading Blizzard games.
I know next to nothing about neither Ow1 or OW2, but from the sound of it they turned OW2 into a game focused on grinding, where you can pay to skip (part of) the grind. Is my assessment correct? If so they must've looked at War Thunder and taken that idea.
Yes. OW1 cost money, but you got all the content. The only paid service was cosmetic outfits for the different characters. You could buy loot boxes for cosmetics. But you had all of the characters, maps, game modes, etc available to begin with. You got the whole game, then could grind for cosmetics.
OW2 takes that and flips it on its head. The game is free, but each character costs money. The problem is that they shut down OW1, so now the players who owned 1 are having to grind for everything. They’ve also had some weird server bugs, with players getting indefinitely locked out of characters they already own.
Wait. I bought overwatch 1 but stopped playing a few years ago. If I go back into overwatch I would have to grind for characters that I used to previously have access to?
No, this applies only to characters released in OW2. All the original characters should still be playable for free.
I personally have no problem with the monetization, but the balance is really, really bad.
I really don't need another subscription in my life
So don't? You get the new hero like a month or so later then. I haven't put a dime into ow since I bought it. You don't need the cosmetics. Let the dumb whales fund the game.
Have you played OW before? I can't imagine a hero which wasn't OP on release, fuck that game and it's P2W subscription
Picking lifeweaver at his release was widely considered throwing.
Yeah, but honestly I don‘t think it ruins the game. Sure, it’s not the best idea, but I don‘t care too much. I actually care more about the fact that the gameplay currently sucks and is completely different to Overwatch 1. 5v5 and the overall balancing sucks.
The balance of OW2 is way better than OW1 though. OW1 was a boring shield-shooting simulator for the last 2 or 3 years of it's life.
That's not the balance, that's the gameplay. There are still balance problems like the era of Mercy damage amping.
And while they've solved the CC and barriers problem, they've made teamfights too swingy. With only 5v5 and a single op tank, teamfights are often basically over after a single death or a single Rez. Especially for the tank. That's just too much pressure, so nobody wants to tank anymore.
Shields were too strong in OW1, so much so that the meta revolved around having two shield tanks. How is that not a balance issue?
I agree there's too much pressure on the tank currently, but I'll definitely take that over the problems 6v6 OW had.
Because it's s shit game
From a shit company.
They earned their reputation pretty hard
unlike Baldur's Gate 3, absolutely everything about this game was designed specifically with microtrans in mind
Oh my God, you can't just say microtrans. The proper terminology is "gender dysphoric little person"
Actually that's the wrong use of that word in this context. It's actually a "queer questioning point of sale system" he's talking about.
could be short for microtransient, and then we're talking about little hobos.. and who doesn't want to talk about little hobos..
No no no thats also wrong, it stands for micro transmission. Ya know for small vehicles.
Even you got it wrong! They were talking about the micro figurines for transformers! How you could miss that!!!
https://www.pcgamer.com/how-blizzards-reputation-collapsed-in-just-3-years/
Blizzard used to be great. Now they are awful.
They've been awful since Activision got involved. I knew that was the end the day the news broke, people told me I was wrong. I wish.
Also they sexually harassed an employee to suicide. That tells you all you need to know.
They were always awful. See: StarCraft Ghost
Haha yeah I remember that one :) That one really surprised people actually. Before that they had a good track record...
blizzard is ass. i hope they go bankrupt one day.
I stopped playing when they did not let people pick the same heroes. Played more for the fun and the chaos. Did not care if I won as long as I was having fun but the game went the pro gamer route.
Good, they absolutely fucking butchered the game just to sell cosmetics and heroes.
They probably had it coming.