While I like the concept, I don't think it's going to be very useful
A given volume, e.g. 50% can be vastly different on different headphones/earbuds. Only really useful on 1st party products
For me personally, I connect my phone to my car and always have my phone's volume at 100% for the Bluetooth because I control the volume with the physical knob in the car.
Man, I hate that BlueTooth doesn't have an equivalent of "line-out" that isn't affected by the host devices' volume settings. It's so annoying when I can barely hear my music because I turned the volume way down on my phone while watching a video late last night.
There's a setting in developer options to disable Bluetooth absolute volume. That can remove the sync from the media volume of your smartphone.
Poweramp plus allows you to set audio profiles for different devices, I have never gotten it to work properly between my bluetooth, wired headphones, and android auto.
Haha yea another good example of this not working as intended
This feature is only for wired headphones. They can not reliable calculate it for Bluetooth audio devices because of this very reason.
They can't do it for wired headphones either, hence why the current automation volume reduction sucks
It's should to be close enough, the spec is called sensitivity (SPL) and most headphone manufacturers try to hit around 100dB/mW.
Hopefully the setting would allow you to fine tune it based on what headphones you have.
Where exactly are you seeing that most manufactures are aiming for that spl?
I own many headphones all with vastly different sensitivities. And headphones are almost always far less sensitive than IEM's
Samsung turns the volume icons green beyond 60%, and it's much better than nothing; I would've raised the volume way above that way too often, if it weren't for that feature.
There's a feature to limit increasing the volume beyond some point, which—if you enable—you'd have to disable it to increase the volume, but I find it unnecessary.
This is a good feature if and only if there is an official way to turn it off. I do like that it might actually give you info on how loud it is, although I'm not sure how well that'll work. This can't possibly work as intended on all sound outputs, as some get much louder than others.
If you’re wondering, no, Android does not track the sound dose for music played over Bluetooth speakers or headphones, as the actual sound level of these devices can be set independently of the Android device.
Apparently, it will not work for Bluetooth audio devices. With wired being used less overall. Makes this feature a bit redundant unless they add support for Bluetooth.
Or if, for the love of god, they give us back our headphone jacks.
Even with wired headphones, the volume setting didn't directly correspond to a decibel level. High quality headphones often have a higher impedance than cheaper ones, which makes them much quieter (unless you use an external amp). The automatic volume reducer thing was just always pretty frustrating in the past.
Especially when you're driving and it suddenly reduces the volume to the point where it's barely audible, forcing you to fumble around with your phone. And now that's apparently gonna happen even more often.
Or at the very least a 2nd USB type C port. Personally, use wireless wouldn't mind using wired if my future phones were guaranteed to include that option.
Yeah, as much as I want my headphone jack back, they could at least give us an additional port even if its another USB c
Android devices sold in the EU display a warning when headphones are connected and the user tries to raise the output volume level above 85 dB
No the don't, they pop that up when you try to raise the volume above some arbitrary percentage. What volume that corresponds to depends on the audio hardware, it might be barely audible. And now they're apparently gonna make that crap even worse.
I had no idea this was eu specific..
It's annoying because I use my car volume knob, and keep my phone at max volume. It's a pain when I'm driving and it cuts down the volume due to "extended amount of time at high volume"
Same here. I have to turn the phone up to max and the car stereo up to near max for it to be audible
It’s insane how phones don’t have a maximum volume option. I think Nintendo has one for the switch. It’d be great for kids but more importantly for me because sometimes headphones bug out and play at random volumes
So, wait, they're seriously going to make this function MORE annoying than it already is?!
angry audio engineer noices
I'll probably turn it off anyway when it pops up the first time.
I've had this feature on my phone for quite a while since it's MIUI. But the issue I've had is that it will decrease the volume even when I'm connected to Bluetooth speakers or my car where it's easier to max the volume on the phone and control the volume on the speakers
Not too different than an old iPad, or maybe it was an iPod, used to do to me, when I'd listen for a while then it would just get quiet and I'd see that the screen had a volume warning on it.
Not new in general, but still good and valuable that it's being implemented more.
The bigger hitch/conundrum is getting people to care, on the personal/listener level, since, as we're aware, corporations profit off of us every second and would throw us all away if it earned them more money, so they're of course going to kinda half-ass the effort and let us keep letting our hearing systems go bad.
It doesn't help that under like 25 years old and you're still not really even perceiving the future as "real" yet.
O go fuck yourself Google .I do not need more bushit pop ups asking if I'm sure when I want my phone to do things.
While I like the concept, I don't think it's going to be very useful
A given volume, e.g. 50% can be vastly different on different headphones/earbuds. Only really useful on 1st party products
For me personally, I connect my phone to my car and always have my phone's volume at 100% for the Bluetooth because I control the volume with the physical knob in the car.
Man, I hate that BlueTooth doesn't have an equivalent of "line-out" that isn't affected by the host devices' volume settings. It's so annoying when I can barely hear my music because I turned the volume way down on my phone while watching a video late last night.
There's a setting in developer options to disable Bluetooth absolute volume. That can remove the sync from the media volume of your smartphone.
Poweramp plus allows you to set audio profiles for different devices, I have never gotten it to work properly between my bluetooth, wired headphones, and android auto.
Haha yea another good example of this not working as intended
This feature is only for wired headphones. They can not reliable calculate it for Bluetooth audio devices because of this very reason.
They can't do it for wired headphones either, hence why the current automation volume reduction sucks
It's should to be close enough, the spec is called sensitivity (SPL) and most headphone manufacturers try to hit around 100dB/mW.
Hopefully the setting would allow you to fine tune it based on what headphones you have.
Where exactly are you seeing that most manufactures are aiming for that spl?
I own many headphones all with vastly different sensitivities. And headphones are almost always far less sensitive than IEM's
Samsung turns the volume icons green beyond 60%, and it's much better than nothing; I would've raised the volume way above that way too often, if it weren't for that feature.
There's a feature to limit increasing the volume beyond some point, which—if you enable—you'd have to disable it to increase the volume, but I find it unnecessary.
This is a good feature if and only if there is an official way to turn it off. I do like that it might actually give you info on how loud it is, although I'm not sure how well that'll work. This can't possibly work as intended on all sound outputs, as some get much louder than others.
Apparently, it will not work for Bluetooth audio devices. With wired being used less overall. Makes this feature a bit redundant unless they add support for Bluetooth.
Or if, for the love of god, they give us back our headphone jacks.
Even with wired headphones, the volume setting didn't directly correspond to a decibel level. High quality headphones often have a higher impedance than cheaper ones, which makes them much quieter (unless you use an external amp). The automatic volume reducer thing was just always pretty frustrating in the past.
Especially when you're driving and it suddenly reduces the volume to the point where it's barely audible, forcing you to fumble around with your phone. And now that's apparently gonna happen even more often.
Or at the very least a 2nd USB type C port. Personally, use wireless wouldn't mind using wired if my future phones were guaranteed to include that option.
Yeah, as much as I want my headphone jack back, they could at least give us an additional port even if its another USB c
No the don't, they pop that up when you try to raise the volume above some arbitrary percentage. What volume that corresponds to depends on the audio hardware, it might be barely audible. And now they're apparently gonna make that crap even worse.
I had no idea this was eu specific..
It's annoying because I use my car volume knob, and keep my phone at max volume. It's a pain when I'm driving and it cuts down the volume due to "extended amount of time at high volume"
Same here. I have to turn the phone up to max and the car stereo up to near max for it to be audible
It’s insane how phones don’t have a maximum volume option. I think Nintendo has one for the switch. It’d be great for kids but more importantly for me because sometimes headphones bug out and play at random volumes
So, wait, they're seriously going to make this function MORE annoying than it already is?!
angry audio engineer noices
I'll probably turn it off anyway when it pops up the first time.
I've had this feature on my phone for quite a while since it's MIUI. But the issue I've had is that it will decrease the volume even when I'm connected to Bluetooth speakers or my car where it's easier to max the volume on the phone and control the volume on the speakers
Not too different than an old iPad, or maybe it was an iPod, used to do to me, when I'd listen for a while then it would just get quiet and I'd see that the screen had a volume warning on it.
Not new in general, but still good and valuable that it's being implemented more.
The bigger hitch/conundrum is getting people to care, on the personal/listener level, since, as we're aware, corporations profit off of us every second and would throw us all away if it earned them more money, so they're of course going to kinda half-ass the effort and let us keep letting our hearing systems go bad.
It doesn't help that under like 25 years old and you're still not really even perceiving the future as "real" yet.
O go fuck yourself Google .I do not need more bushit pop ups asking if I'm sure when I want my phone to do things.
I love the thumbnail.
ok glad its not just me who had that thumbnail lmao
WHAT?