This is only news because it's an AI car. Were it a human, it would be a youtube video with a title "stupid drivers". Nobody would be calling to "regulate human drivers" or "ban all human drivers from driving cars".
Considering the source, this is only news because it’s not a Tesla.
This is only news because it's an AI car. Were it a human,
It was mainly a driverless car.
Were it a driverless car without AI, the news would be the same.
Also once an AI car is taught it will never do this again . Human drivers will keep on doing this.
The driverless car will plow into cement willingly, as long as it's a slightly different shade of grey. The human will be distracted by the orange man waving the sign and think "what are the chances I drive into cement again?"
The only way to fix this is to fine the driverless car company every time. Hold them liable and take away their license. Suspend the driverless car program every time something bad happens. Those VC morons will fix every issue in like 2 weeks.
That looks like a badly secured construction zone to me. Stuff like this certainly happens to human drivers.
Yeah unless the car went blasting through a barrier I’m not sure we can blame “AI” on this one.
The whole point is being better than a human and they’re demonstrably not.
they’re demonstrably not
Wait.. how did you arrive at this conclusion? Humans do this kind of thing all the time, too. You'd have to know the relative rates of accidents and mishaps to say with any confidence that they're "demonstrably" not better than humans.
Why look at overall statistics when you can cherry pick single instances to prove your point. /s
well, they should have posted a link to the Cruise Wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cruise_(autonomous_vehicle) because what I read from regulation and incidents proves his point. The city requesting no expansion to permits, 39 incidents between January and June 2023 blocking fire department operations alone. And that is just within their limited time permits.
I knew this shit would happen... Elon pushes his shitty "self driving" cars that are years behind the others, and people are now conflating that garbage with high-end, well researched and tested self-driving vehicles.
Most of these alternatives do amazingly well. No idea on this one, though, admittedly. I've never heard of it.
They don’t do amazingly well. Cruise literally ran into the back of a bus. The car has five LiDAR sensors, twenty-one radars, and twelve cameras and can’t see a bus?
They’re constantly stopping in the middle of the streets and struggling with scenarios regular drivers don’t have an issue with. First Responders hate them because they’re constantly in the way with no way to disable them.
They have to route around left turns because they’re too hard (and have caused a couple collisions), so it takes an incredible amount of time to get anywhere compared to literally any other method of transport. Not to mention that they’re testing them in cities that actually have decent transit! Just get on a bus!!
Anyone working on AVs in the US has a long way to go, I haven’t followed international companies as closely. Blame Elon all you want, not a single company has actually managed to make a safe and useful product.
I know a lot of people (myself included!) want this technology to exist and be useful, but we may need to start thinking about what we do if it isn't achievable. Allowing public development of these is a nuisance.
I would love to know who's going to pay for that in the end!
Taxpayer
Do they have any in San Francisco?
No. They have no taxpayers in one of the most expensive cities to live in in the country. Not a single taxpayer.
We’re going to see driverless cars failing all sorts of edge cases for decades…
This is only news because it's an AI car. Were it a human, it would be a youtube video with a title "stupid drivers". Nobody would be calling to "regulate human drivers" or "ban all human drivers from driving cars".
Considering the source, this is only news because it’s not a Tesla.
It was mainly a driverless car.
Were it a driverless car without AI, the news would be the same.
Also once an AI car is taught it will never do this again . Human drivers will keep on doing this.
The driverless car will plow into cement willingly, as long as it's a slightly different shade of grey. The human will be distracted by the orange man waving the sign and think "what are the chances I drive into cement again?"
The only way to fix this is to fine the driverless car company every time. Hold them liable and take away their license. Suspend the driverless car program every time something bad happens. Those VC morons will fix every issue in like 2 weeks.
How human of them.
No news on whether or not the construction zone was properly cordoned off, of course. It's not like we haven't seen plenty of people do this.
Did human drivers get stuck in the same concrete? Or did they manage to avoid it.
In the cases where there are no AI cars but humans getting stuck in the concrete does that mean we should ban all humans from driving cars?
The FuckCars crowd:
Are human drivers getting stuck in concrete?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PCO1QlvK0o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfUiOAXrWJ0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIgNwcopamo
https://www.dailydot.com/unclick/woman-drives-wet-concrete-video/
https://www.cleveland19.com/story/38271183/car-gets-stuck-in-wet-concrete-in-downtown-cleveland-driver-laughs-it-off-videophotos/
How many stories would you like?
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https://piped.video/watch?v=bfUiOAXrWJ0
https://piped.video/watch?v=bfUiOAXrWJ0
https://piped.video/watch?v=VIgNwcopamo
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Have you ever seen someone do this?
https://www.google.com/search?q=car+in+concrete
That looks like a badly secured construction zone to me. Stuff like this certainly happens to human drivers.
Yeah unless the car went blasting through a barrier I’m not sure we can blame “AI” on this one.
The whole point is being better than a human and they’re demonstrably not.
Wait.. how did you arrive at this conclusion? Humans do this kind of thing all the time, too. You'd have to know the relative rates of accidents and mishaps to say with any confidence that they're "demonstrably" not better than humans.
Why look at overall statistics when you can cherry pick single instances to prove your point. /s
well, they should have posted a link to the Cruise Wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cruise_(autonomous_vehicle) because what I read from regulation and incidents proves his point. The city requesting no expansion to permits, 39 incidents between January and June 2023 blocking fire department operations alone. And that is just within their limited time permits.
I knew this shit would happen... Elon pushes his shitty "self driving" cars that are years behind the others, and people are now conflating that garbage with high-end, well researched and tested self-driving vehicles.
Most of these alternatives do amazingly well. No idea on this one, though, admittedly. I've never heard of it.
They don’t do amazingly well. Cruise literally ran into the back of a bus. The car has five LiDAR sensors, twenty-one radars, and twelve cameras and can’t see a bus?
They’re constantly stopping in the middle of the streets and struggling with scenarios regular drivers don’t have an issue with. First Responders hate them because they’re constantly in the way with no way to disable them.
They have to route around left turns because they’re too hard (and have caused a couple collisions), so it takes an incredible amount of time to get anywhere compared to literally any other method of transport. Not to mention that they’re testing them in cities that actually have decent transit! Just get on a bus!!
Anyone working on AVs in the US has a long way to go, I haven’t followed international companies as closely. Blame Elon all you want, not a single company has actually managed to make a safe and useful product.
I know a lot of people (myself included!) want this technology to exist and be useful, but we may need to start thinking about what we do if it isn't achievable. Allowing public development of these is a nuisance.
I would love to know who's going to pay for that in the end!
Taxpayer
Do they have any in San Francisco?
No. They have no taxpayers in one of the most expensive cities to live in in the country. Not a single taxpayer.
That's what I wanted to hear 😎
Hundreds of thousands
Of extremely well paid experts in their fields.