An elementary student died and 23 others injured after their Ohio school bus was hit on first day of class

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An elementary student died and 23 others injured after their Ohio school bus was hit on first day of class | CNN
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An elementary student was killed and 23 other students were injured – including one with life-threatening injuries – after their school bus was hit by a minivan and overturned on the first day of school.

The accident occurred on state Route 41 in German Township, Ohio, on Tuesday morning, the Ohio State Highway Patrol said in a news release.

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I bet the minivan driver was texting.

I'm a school bus driver and I used to use my high vantage point to count how many passing drivers were looking at their phones instead of ahead of them, and I estimated that it was about 1 in 4. I even had a cop pass me while I had my lights on and kids were about the cross - he was face down in his phone and driving with one hand.

I stopped counting for the sake of my mental health. I truly don't understand why I don't see multiple collisions a day because of this shit.

Oh don't you know? Cops are trained in the use of technology while driving so it's perfectly safe for them to be buried in their phones or that fucking laptop they have mounted on their center console while running red lights at 80 mph without their sirens on. Don't even worry about it.

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Vehicles are required to have seatbelts... Except school busses. Because F you, kids.

Buses are not required to have seatbelts because they have a far greater mass than a car, making it harder to, you know, fling people out of a window/into the seat in front of them when a crash occurs, which is what seatbelts are designed to prevent. Oh, and you really think a single bus driver can make 20-30 kids keep their seatbelts on during the ride to school? This is mission control, please come back to Earth.

It's the culture. My kids school in Taiwan has a full bus of kids with their seatbelts on as soon as they get in.

You're arguing that it's better not to have seatbelts because the driver can't guarantee that 100% of the students will buckle up? That's hilarious.

Semis have a greater mass than a bus, yet the driver and passenger both have seat belts. Other countries put seat belts on their busses. I'd love to see some data backing up your argument.

People like making up reasons and presenting it as fact on the internet lol, but actually working in a school, here are the real main reasons. Busses are compartmentalized and busses have padding everywhere on the seats and they're densely packed so it's usually safe enough without belts if kids get flung around. They also typically drive slower than cars and no seatbelts make evacuations easier and faster for students. They are also very heavy. I've been in a bus that's been hit before and it was like someone just slightly shook the bus while the car's headlight was busted. The paperwork being done took longer than taking us home. The last reason is probably the most believable, but it's to cut costs, too. Busses with belts can range $8-15k more expensive and school faculty members are underpaid enough already.

Yet, the driver has a seatbelt. Greater mass means a greater kinetic momentum. Lol, the irony of your username.

The seatbelt isn't there just to keep you from flying through the windshield in a crash. It also keeps you in the proper seating position so you can reach the controls at all times, and reduces fatigue because you don't need to brace yourself as much when going around corners or over bumps.

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This is strange, I distinctly remember school buses have seatbelts when I was on it. Has things changed this much?

Think for a minute and you might realize why seatbelts won't work on a school bus.

No, sorry. I’m going to need you to explain it, if the reason is other than money.

Aside from the greater mass making ejection more difficult. If there's a fire, evacuating 30 or so kids is going to be much harder when you have to get them out of their seatbelts.

You forgot about the fact that buses have bigger windows and the passengers inside them, kids in this case, have smaller mass. Therefore I would argue that the chances of ejection are not less than a typical car.

Plus, pretty sure those old big muscle cars and luxury cars had more mass than a typical family hatchback and guess why we still got seatbelts?

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