Im not sure what your point is here. Don't get an EV because they (and all other new cars) have privacy issues?
No he meant they are just trying to safe their face.
I get that. But the implication is executives from hyundai all met because of that information from mozilla to determine how they can counter the privacy concerns. Then they came up with “give them an EV charger, that'll make them forget!”. Then no one mentions that the solution may only be seen by 5% of people buying a small segment of cars?
Its a stretch. I'm pretty sure they are just trying to reduce friction of people buying EVs and this has nothing to do with the information about privacy.
Now if they had some major incentives across all types of data stealing cars, that might be connected.
You are probably right. However I wonder how much data they will collect using EVs. Since newer systems usually mean more data.
It kinda sucks there's no car manufacturers that'll make new cars without these privacy issues. I suppose the best thing that could be done would be to attempt to disconnect a car from being able to contact any network so no data can get out.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
If you were holding off on buying an EV because you didn’t know where to start on getting a home charger installed, Hyundai’s new deal might help you out.
The automaker is now offering a free home electric vehicle charger plus up to $600 off the installation cost with the purchase or lease of select Hyundai EVs.
The charger is currently listed at $549 on the website and supports up to 50 amps, which could get you around 37 miles of driving range per hour of charging.
If your home has a driveway or garage, it’s usually pretty straightforward to get an EV charger installed.
It’s more difficult for apartment dwellers, as the landowner must facilitate equipment, and in that case, this offer won’t help you.
However, Hyundai does offer new EV buyers access to two years of complimentary Electrify America charging.
The original article contains 333 words, the summary contains 142 words. Saved 57%. I'm a bot and I'm open source!
This is a WAYYYYYY better insensitive for everyone than offering free charging at charge points. It should move people who could charge at home but do not in order to save money back to their home charger freeing up DC fast chargers for those who actually need it.
The Times found that automotive suppliers and a food contractor in the Grand Rapids area are illegally employing migrant children in jobs that can include dangerous conditions and long hours, producing goods used by Ford Motor Co., General Motors Co., and General Mills Inc
Free charger for the $80k carport. Who has a house like that?
She makes bespoke handbags from upcycled Trader Joe's wine boxes and he day trades on heirloom potato futures. She wanted a place "walkable, but not downtown" and he just wanted a home office with floor to ceiling windows looking out over his neighbors' rooftops. Next week on "Go Flip Yourself"!
What is a carport? The cars themselves start at less than $40k.
The roof the car is parked under — a doorless garage.
The same electric systems that just got recalled?
Cool! I think GM had (has?) something similar, which is great.
I'm personally holding off until I can get a V2H charger, but if I didn't have charging at work as an option, I'd jump on this.
They still do! It can work better for some than others. Some people have gotten ridiculously inflated quotes for a non-standard (only covered for $1K) installation for dumb reasons. That said, my panel is on the other side of my house but the ~50' run was still covered in full. Local installer was amazing to work with. And I've got more charging power than I know what to do with.
Keep in mind that the EVSE itself is the easy part. If you get the wiring in, you can always swap the box later on.
I was quoted 1200 for just the install, my electrical box is at one of my house and it had to go through a room into my garage corner (about 20 feet). Was shocked, but apparently the cabling is really expensive. Luckily had someone that did it for a living and installed for free. So much better then using the normal wall outlet though
240v dedicated taps don't come cheap. Having two 240v taps installed this morning, will cost about $1300. That's without a proprietary charger. I decided to just use standard 240v chargers for our Mach-E. It's slower than the proprietary Ford charger, but not by much.
Are they going to randomly start on fire, like their cars?
Hyundai is supposedly gathering information about their customers and giving it to the cops.
Oh and they're giving out 30 year old anti theft devices because their cars from a certain period don't have
imonilizersimmobilizers. https://youtu.be/JodD_KARacg?si=yW3S5LjRaSbijUO_Did you mean immobilizers? Otherwise I have no idea what you are talking about.
Nah, imonilizers, a new device used to monetize driving patterns.
Yep. The one time autocorrect didn't try to help.
Dude it was crazy it's like a 10 year period I think
This sounds great, but the cynic in me can't help buy wonder if this is counter-programming for Mozilla's privacy study that came out a couple weeks ago: https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/privacynotincluded/articles/its-official-cars-are-the-worst-product-category-we-have-ever-reviewed-for-privacy/
Im not sure what your point is here. Don't get an EV because they (and all other new cars) have privacy issues?
No he meant they are just trying to safe their face.
I get that. But the implication is executives from hyundai all met because of that information from mozilla to determine how they can counter the privacy concerns. Then they came up with “give them an EV charger, that'll make them forget!”. Then no one mentions that the solution may only be seen by 5% of people buying a small segment of cars?
Its a stretch. I'm pretty sure they are just trying to reduce friction of people buying EVs and this has nothing to do with the information about privacy.
Now if they had some major incentives across all types of data stealing cars, that might be connected.
You are probably right. However I wonder how much data they will collect using EVs. Since newer systems usually mean more data.
It kinda sucks there's no car manufacturers that'll make new cars without these privacy issues. I suppose the best thing that could be done would be to attempt to disconnect a car from being able to contact any network so no data can get out.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
If you were holding off on buying an EV because you didn’t know where to start on getting a home charger installed, Hyundai’s new deal might help you out.
The automaker is now offering a free home electric vehicle charger plus up to $600 off the installation cost with the purchase or lease of select Hyundai EVs.
The charger is currently listed at $549 on the website and supports up to 50 amps, which could get you around 37 miles of driving range per hour of charging.
If your home has a driveway or garage, it’s usually pretty straightforward to get an EV charger installed.
It’s more difficult for apartment dwellers, as the landowner must facilitate equipment, and in that case, this offer won’t help you.
However, Hyundai does offer new EV buyers access to two years of complimentary Electrify America charging.
The original article contains 333 words, the summary contains 142 words. Saved 57%. I'm a bot and I'm open source!
This is a WAYYYYYY better insensitive for everyone than offering free charging at charge points. It should move people who could charge at home but do not in order to save money back to their home charger freeing up DC fast chargers for those who actually need it.
Hyundai also got busted for using child labor in the states and was heavily penalized for it, so trying to rebuild their image? https://www.reuters.com/world/us/exclusive-hyundai-subsidiary-has-used-child-labor-alabama-factory-2022-07-22/
Ahem that's a normal day in America
https://eu.detroitnews.com/story/business/2023/02/27/state-feds-investigate-reports-of-child-labor-in-west-michigan/69950452007/
Free charger for the $80k carport. Who has a house like that?
She makes bespoke handbags from upcycled Trader Joe's wine boxes and he day trades on heirloom potato futures. She wanted a place "walkable, but not downtown" and he just wanted a home office with floor to ceiling windows looking out over his neighbors' rooftops. Next week on "Go Flip Yourself"!
What is a carport? The cars themselves start at less than $40k.
The roof the car is parked under — a doorless garage.
The same electric systems that just got recalled?
Cool! I think GM had (has?) something similar, which is great.
I'm personally holding off until I can get a V2H charger, but if I didn't have charging at work as an option, I'd jump on this.
Chevy seems to be offering a $0 cost installation of a level 2 charger if you buy OR lease a Bolt or Bolt EUV: https://www.chevrolet.com/electric/ev-charging/home-charging/installation
They still do! It can work better for some than others. Some people have gotten ridiculously inflated quotes for a non-standard (only covered for $1K) installation for dumb reasons. That said, my panel is on the other side of my house but the ~50' run was still covered in full. Local installer was amazing to work with. And I've got more charging power than I know what to do with.
Keep in mind that the EVSE itself is the easy part. If you get the wiring in, you can always swap the box later on.
I was quoted 1200 for just the install, my electrical box is at one of my house and it had to go through a room into my garage corner (about 20 feet). Was shocked, but apparently the cabling is really expensive. Luckily had someone that did it for a living and installed for free. So much better then using the normal wall outlet though
240v dedicated taps don't come cheap. Having two 240v taps installed this morning, will cost about $1300. That's without a proprietary charger. I decided to just use standard 240v chargers for our Mach-E. It's slower than the proprietary Ford charger, but not by much.
Are they going to randomly start on fire, like their cars?