Warner Robins teacher accused of threatening to kill student over comment about his Israeli flag
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WARNER ROBINS, Ga. — A Warner Robins teacher is accused of threatening to behead a student after she made a comment about his Israeli flag, according to the Houston County Sheriff's Office.
Wow, not sure to call him ultra-nationalist or religious-extremist.
Violent bigots come in ever flavor. At a certain point, it's not worth the effort to suss out the source of their prejudices. It's an unanswerable question that leads to the same dissapointment in simple minded zealotry no matter their specific path.
I'd rather spend time trying to understand the ones I respect instead of getting lost in the maze of a random scum.
Best comment in this shit-stained comment section.
There's a word for those two things; Zionist.
Not all zionists are religious, like at all.
It takes like 10 minutes of googling to see Zionism is an umbrella term for multiple different schools of thoughts. People are turning it into some slur when at its core it’s the belief that Jews have a right to a state. Keep in mind that Jews are both a race and a religion.
Race is a construct. We are all the same species.
Yes but so is Money, the significance of a social construct comes from how much society as a whole puts stock in the ideas. Unfortunately race is very relevant in today's world as ethnicity and perceived race is a big factor in how issues are discussed and acted on.
I may be overreacting a bit, but your comment sounds a lot like the colorblind/all lives matter rethoric to me in this context, so I want to emphasize it's significance to this discussion.
Well it's more of a state in a specific place and that maybe everyone should go there.
Several different locations were considered at first. I think the levant was chosen because it renders the “go back where you came from” argument moot since they’d be living in the area they originated from.
Bullcrap. Zionism originated as an antisemitic Christian idea that was specifically based on the premise that Jewish people "don't belong" in (so-called) "western civilization" and should return "where they came from" - ie, Palestine.
White supremacist much? Do you want to tell me now that Ethiopian Jewish people and Ashkenazi are the same "race"?
Uh no, Zionism is not a Christian idea. It’s been an idea long before Christianity was even around. I’m flabbergasted that you called me a white supremacist for stating a fact. Ethiopian and Ashkenazi Jews could very well share DNA linking them back to the original Jewish diaspora.
https://geneticliteracyproject.org/2017/03/21/beta-israel-reconsidered-defending-israelite-ancestry-ethiopian-jews/
“As the BBC reports, the study suggests that “Ethiopians mixed with Egyptian, Israeli or Syrian populations about 3,000 years ago.” Professor Chris Tyler-Smith, from the Wellcome Trust Sanger Institute, told the BBC: “By analyzing the genetics of Ethiopia and several other regions we can see that there was gene flow into Ethiopia, probably from the Levant, around 3,000 years ago, and this fits perfectly with the story of the Queen of Sheba.” Note that the study does not contradict the 2007 work by Entine or other historical evidence. The results suggest that Israelites-Jews entered the region 3,000 years ago, but they were not necessarily consolidated as a group until about 1,500 years ago. Also, note the study does not necessarily confirm the biblical story of affair between Queen Sheba of ancient Ethiopia and king Solomon of ancient Israel.”
Here’s another
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3543766/
“By principal component analysis, it was observed that the Jewish populations of Europe, North Africa, and the Middle East formed a tight cluster that distinguished them from their non-Jewish neighbors (Fig. 1). Within this central cluster, each of these Jewish populations formed its own subcluster, in addition to the more remote localization of members of some Diaspora communities. The observation of a major central tight cluster was supported by statistical metrics for genetic distances (Fst, allelic sharing distances).”
With all this said, even if Ethiopian Jews and Ashkenazi Jews are not actually genetically related, they still get targeted the same whether they practice Judaism or not.
Oh, look... a white supremacist is "flabbergasted" that someone pointed out their white supremacism.
Yawn.
Nope. Christian zionism predates Jewish zionism by about two decades. It's such non-controversial history you'll even find it on wikipedia, Clyde.
I'm genetically related to every other human being on the planet, genius - does that make me every "race" according to people like you who buy into the tenets of "race science"?
I have literally no idea how Jewish communities sharing specific DNA linking them to the levant has anything to do with white supremacy, or how that makes me a white supremacist. Zionism started after the Jewish Diaspora in 8th century BCE. Are all scientists that study genetics racist? Where are you getting this from and why are you so angry about it?
No, it didn’t. Zionism started in the late 1800s/early 1900s.
This has happened before. One specific movement started then, but the idea is very old https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Return\_to\_Zion
And that’s not “Zionism.” You could say it was a precursor, but Zionism is distinct thing.
This is the very first line in the book “Der Judenstaat” by Theodor Herzl, considered to be the father of modern Zionism starting with this book. “The idea which I have developed in this pamphlet is a very old one: it is the restoration of the Jewish State.” Herzl simply renewed the idea in modern times, so many websites will list him as the start. However, a little digging into Jewish history and you will find Zionism is a very old idea.
Only a white supremacist classifies people into "races" based on arbitrary bullcrap like "sharing specific DNA." Methinks you don't seem to know how white supremacism works - despite the fact that you see the world through it's lens. It's a pretty common symptom amongst sufferers of the particular disease we call "westernism."
No it didn't, Clyde. Again... it’s such non-controversial history you’ll even find it on wikipedia.
Race is the wrong word in the modern American context. Jews aren't a race in the sense of black vs white.
Jews are, however, an ethnicity - much like how you can be ethnically Navaho or ethnically Basque. It's a matter of being part of a community of people with a shared culture and ancestry. And yes, beta Israel and Ashkenazim are both ethnically Jewish.
That's really weird, Clyde... considering that it's the only understanding of "race" we have here in our fundamentally white supremacist society.
Do tell... what does the KKK and the neonazis think of your (supposedly) "nuanced" take on pseudo-scientific "race science?"
Race used to be commonly used as a synonym of ethnicity - it isn't rare to see references to the German race, the Celtic race, Greek race, etc.
If westernism is a disease which region is the cure professor Tank
So not only don't you understand your own diseased ideology... you also completely miss the point of all the others.
No, Clyde... desperately hurling the term "tankie" at others does not distract from your white supreamcism.
Yes my horrible ideology of citing a peer reviewed science article published by the national library of medicine lmao. Science is a capitalist and imperialist conspiracy!!1!1
Are you trying to act like an asshole? Like.. cause you are.
TIL... it's the people running interference for genocidal white supremacist settler-colonialist states that aren't the assholes.
So edgy
So now even Jew haters are Zionists?
Much like "nazi" you silly fucks are now trying to water down that word.
Pretending the teacher isn’t pro-Israel doesn’t make it true.
It's always funny watching you people get mad when people call out zionism for what it is.
Oh, look... the fascists are now desperately hoping we're going to forget what the word nazi means.
Yeah... not going to happen, fash.
Fascist. That's the word you're looking for.
Religious nationalist is not a synonym for fascist. We need to stop diluting the meaning of the word fascist.
"Religious nationalist" is an oxymoron - especially when it comes to Abrahamic religions. Saluting a piece of colored fabric and treating it with any kind of reverential significance literally breaks the very first commandment.
They are neither religious - they literally act in direct contravention of the teachings they (supposedly) "follow" - nor nationalist - they literally (and overtly) place the interests of a small wealthy elite above the interests of the people in the nation.
No, Clyde - they are fascists.
Nations aren't considered gods, and flags aren't idols of those non-gods. You don't sacrifice goats to the flag, or burn incense for it.
Judaism has historically looked at Christian beliefs and practices with way, way more suspicion of polytheism and idolatry than it's ever looked at national flags.
The teacher here is unhinged, but you clearly don't really know very much about the ten commandments, especially from a Jewish context.
Oh really? Children aren't brainwashed into worshipping the classical liberal nation-states they are born into with religious-like reverance?
Really?
No, we sacrifice people to them. Do tell, Clyde - how many USians have sacrificed themselves to "defend America" in the past couple of decades?
Oh, I see Jewish people everywhere being very suspicious of your precious nationalist religion... and it's not a new thing, either.
Yes. Children do not literally worship their nation-state with literal religious reverence. No rabbi would tell you that the ten commandments are about prohibiting metaphorical sacrifices to metaphorical religions.
No rabbi would say that saying that someone "worships money" turns their wallet into an alter and their job into idol worship. Religiously, it's just a metaphorical turn of phrase.
Maimonides, probably the most influential rabbi of the middle ages, explicitly called Christians idolaters. The trinity isn't precisely considered polytheistic; the Hebrew term is shituf.
Can you find a single rabbi who would call volunteering to join a military and dying at war halachically prohibited human sacrifice to the nation-as-god or flag-as-idol?
And where exactly did I call myself a religious nationalist? I'm just saying that your argument that the term is an oxymoron is idiotic and betrays a deep ignorance of the religion. I mean, you couldn't even quote the right commandment - in Judaism, the first item on the ten commandants is "I am the lord your God", which makes your argument a complete non sequitur.
Of course not! Performing weird little rituals in regards to it's symbols and sacrificing themselves and others to it's (alleged) grandeur cannot possibly be compared with anything religious!
I mean... at least the older religions offers you the fantasy of an afterlife to cling to, right? That must be enough of a difference, right?
Capitalist bootlickers have always attempted to pretend that religious figures "didn't mean what they say" when they condemned the wealthy elites... I guess that hasn't changed at all, huh?
I can't wait for you to actually come up with something that isn't just bottom-of-the-barrel apologetics - will this be taking you long?
Let me make sure I understand you: your argument is that any self-consistent Jew cannot make an image of anything that can be compared to religion? So anything grand that people find meaning in that requires sacrifices with weird superstitions and rituals.
So no flags because of the religion of nationalism, no money because of the religion of money, no On Food And Cooking because of the religion of French cuisine, and no pictures of Rossini because of the religion of opera?
I'm sure you're going to provide me with plenty of evidence that lists the millions that laid down their lives or were murdered for French cuisine and/or Italian opera.
Come now... don't keep me in suspense.
Totally reasonable reaction to have...
(Please tell me I don't need to tag this as sarcasm)
What the fuck
Sooo…. He’s in jail, right?
This really has nothing to do with religion or politics - that’s just the trigger.
This person needs to be put into psychiatric care immediately and given the appropriate treatment as they are a danger to themselves and others. They should not be allowed to post a bond and leave custody. A medical evaluation should be performed, obviously, but this is clearly a psychiatric case.
I wouldn't blame it on Judaism (religion) but it's pretty clearly a political thing.
It's a pretty normal reaction for a Zionist.
But make sure they can still vote Republican, right?
I’m going to pretend your question was serious.
Should we allow people with diagnosed psychoses to vote? People with schizophrenia or other psychological conditions?
In the traditional good-and-evil model of the prison system as it exists in the US today, I am very much in favor of allowing prisoners to vote both while in prison and after having served their time. I believe that because I believe that the prison system is fundamentally unjust, that innocent people are jailed, that there is significant racial prejudice constantly driving the system, and that there’s no scientific evidence driven justification for what we do and how we do it. Rubin Carter should have been able to vote. Leonard Peltier should have been able to vote. Until we fix the criminal justice system, I think it’s wrong to deny prisoners the right to vote, and I think we need to make sure their votes are made without coercion and properly registered.
But should we allow someone with a clinically diagnosed psychological condition like schizophrenia to vote? They are wracked by delusions, what does their vote mean? For me, it goes down to the assumption of rational agency being part of the justification of a democratic system in the first place, versus the obvious fear of weaponized medical diagnoses being used for political purposes.
It seems to me that he's getting the perception that the status quo now normalizes with the things that Hamas has done, in light of the Palestinian protesters around the world.
I would not comment on this, however, as I am not legible enough to know whether his characteristics are of psychiatric disorders or high levels of neuroticism. I cannot fully judge this person, as I am not to claim that I was present in his environment where this happened.[Edit: (see next posts in the comments, as I have arrived at a different conclusion)]I can tell, however, he may be triggered, but he's not the triggerman.
And yes, put that man in a ward or with a therapist.
When I use the name of a disorder like “psychotic” in this context, I’m using it as a colloquial term. I was a little more specific with the neuropsychological components because that emphasizes my point. I’m a biologist and not a psychologist, and I think that the neuronal bits are more important than the clinical classification. The latter might help with treatment, but the former is what I’m proposing as causal.
We can certainly reasonably speculate that he was following the news. We can make a pretty well educated guess of the slant given by the news he was following, and how he interpreted it. His brain, having taken in the violent imagery and internalized it as an existential threat to himself, his ego-identity, and those with whom he identifies, was primed for this response. The involved physical neurons were in a hypersensitive pre-triggered state, just like yours would be if you sensed you were being stalked by a tiger.
The resulting signals bypass the deliberative brain (which is a whole subject in itself), and moves straight to flight/fight/freeze. These are things we can view diagnostically in people who have committed violence, and they’re ones we can trigger by specific electrical stimulations of the brain.
If you want to fix a problem, you have to identify it and address it. You can’t beat schizophrenia or epilepsy out of someone.
Thank you for sharing your thoughtful insights. Your perspective adds depth to the discussion, and I find your analysis intriguing. It has given me valuable insights.
And it's great that we align on this matter. I value the exchange of ideas, and it's reassuring to find common ground in our views.
Who knows what new understandings we might uncover in the future ?
When I read the news I had conflicting emotions of pity but also understanding for his behaviour, in a manner of speaking (hence my initial comment, and my stance in disbelief). "What if he's only a single piece of pieces that are being moved around by various factors ?", including his environment. For instance, if his post immediate environment is presenting a supportive attitude towards ALL Palestinians, that could actually be wrongly perceived.
Exuding highly reactive aggressive behaviour is often correlated with high levels of neuroticism and emotional factors at play, from my understanding.
Here is an interesting excerpt from psychologist expert, Arlin Cunic, "A smaller-scale study found that after viewing unpleasant images, people rating higher in neuroticism had lower oxygen levels in their lateral prefrontal cortex than those with lower neuroticism ratings..", https://www.verywellmind.com/how-neuroticism-affects-your-behavior-4782188
I have come across these concepts before from documentaries and vast inputs, but your insights has driven me to do a brief research about it; specifically about neuroticism. Quite fascinating.
It is indeed of most import to address these complex cases, without having to leave them at the wits of those who prefer idleness.