Speaking truth to power

no banana@lemmy.world to Lemmy Shitpost@lemmy.world – 261 points –
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I feel like in 2024 jazz is full of people who are Very Concerned with playing jazz according to the rules and boundaries. The amount of condescending jazz musicians I have met almost approaches the amount of condescending classically trained musicians I have met at this point which is unfortunately saying something.

Obviously a big generalization of diverse and varied artistic movement, but I don’t think jazz even remotely plays the subversive, counter cultural role it used to, it has been far to institutionalized as a genre.

The counter cultural, rule breaking aspects of jazz have mostly moved on to other black american movements of music like hip-hop, rap, and electronic genres etc. Shout out to black american culture for being the driving force behind almost every meaningful musical movement in the US :)

Tbf there have always been jazz nerds and then the actual musicians.

If the text on the pic was Live Jazz a Jazz Nerd would say "That apostrophe is a mistake" and everyone else would acknowledge it but not be nearly as upset about it.

I'm afraid I disagree, Lakesia Benjamin is melding hip-hop, soul, modern music and jazz

The Darcy James Argue Secret Society is creating listenable music but still pushing boundaries

and for the more avant guard stuff we had both Space Cube Jazz and Chicken Shit Bingo this year.

Yes. Lets all listen all notes at the same time and call it music. Then we all can be musicians.

Melodic death metal is the art of playing every notes in a row as fast as possible and it's amazing

Listening to music = being a musician!

No. When notes don't matter and you just have to produce any clear sounds off your instrument and improvise through feeling with any skill you might poses, we are all musicians.

Sure but you did say this:

Lets all listen all notes at the same time and call it music

which is what I goofed on

Ok, Meta, but is that the correct punctuation? It doesn't look right, but I don't know how I'd change it.

There's not a complete sentence after the period, so no.

Right, but how would it be corrected? Breakout the semicolon?

Well I'm sure it could be corrected but since it's about jazz maybe we shouldn't venture into that

You're scared by a lack of boundaries.

I'm scared because Herbie Hancock still looks 20.

We are not the same.