It's silly, all the legal precedence we have for emulators were for commercial offerings. If Nintendo wants to hit you with so many invalid lawsuits that you're forced to fold then this certainly won't stop them.
It's just bullying and it's going to keep happening until there's laws in place protecting it.
Some of the best inventions in history came from people reverse engineering the work of others. If we want to keep moving forward then we can't let companies bully people out of innovating. It's shooting ourselves in the foot.
If Nintendo wants to hit you with so many invalid lawsuits that you're forced to fold then this certainly won't stop them.
The thing is that we don't know if the lawsuits are invalid.
The previous times these types of issues have actually gone to court (Nintendo v. Tengen back in the '80s and Sony v. Bleem in the '90s) pretty much all ended in the same way: the emulator/bypass maker won the suit, but the copyright holder drowned them in so many legal costs they had to fold anyway. And these were larger companies with much more resources than any indie emulator dev can muster.
EDIT: also, it should be noted that Tengen and Bleem were able to win their cases specifically because their chip/software were complete reverse engineers and did not contain any Nintendo/Sony proprietary code. It's not to say that if an emulator like Yuzu that requires a cryptographic key from an actual console were to go to court that they wouldn't still win as long as that key is not provided, but it does give the console maker more leverage, and without a lot of resources, indie emulator devs would likely not want to take the chance.
This was always an impressive emulator - it was originally made for the Open Pandora (an ARM-based mini-computer not much bigger than a DS). It's always been free for that - it's just, you know, you'd have to own an Open Pandora (I do!)
Also free for Raspberry Pi and runs really well on it.
Do you happen to know if there are packages or downloads for it. I was looking to archive it
It's been years, but this is where I got it before.
Damn that machine seems awesome. and its successor Pyra seems petty damn cool too
Yeah it was pretty nifty in lots of ways. Loads of emulators, of course, and doing stuff like compiling apps directly on the device itself was neat.
Frustrating in lots of other ways too, though. I don't think the Pyra ever really got off the ground, unfortunately.
Ahh fair enough. I guess that's all totally expected with homebrew hardware
Dang, I just bought it 10 years ago too. Should've waited.
Same, bought it a decade ago, well worth it.
They probably have a price adjustment policy
I am always amazed at its official forum. The dev has tight control over it, each post need to be approved by him in order to post, there are many threads that are years old on the front page mainly due to the fact that the dev didn't approve new response.
Case in point, there was a update a while ago that moves the default save folder to another location, many user had posted threads asking solution, without any resolution, I have also faced this issue few months back and finally tracked it down, decided to post it and can't.
Yeah the dev has always been an asshole. Drastic is great but he's terrible.
I just bought it one month ago ðŸ˜
And you didn't lose anything here
Waiting for eggns to become free
It is
Didn't know, i thought if you want to use pro version then you gotta pirate, good to know
Nevermind there are In-App-purchases
Yes, i said that
Huh, is this why it was suddenly ported to the Miyoo Mini on the new OnionOS version? Was very surprised when I saw it because I thought it was closed source.
Doesn't work nearly as well as citra in my experience, but I'm using pretty low powered hardware too.
Citra is a 3DS emulator, this is a DS one, how are you comparing them?
Perhaps they misread, at least I did
I mean, if they actually tried it they should know what it's about even without reading the article...
It's a great piece of software, cool to see it open sourced so it can live on despite Nintendo's lawyers
Well, can't find it and they talk about open-sourcing since 2019. Not sure it's still on the works.
Bought this a couple of months ago myself that said its probably a good thing it's being open sourced I just have bad timing and bad luck in general when I buy things of the play store.
Just as an example I bought GTA Vice City and a few weeks later my phone updated to 14 and it hasn't loaded or even seen an update since. So yeah avoid that one.
Someone got scared it seems.
It's silly, all the legal precedence we have for emulators were for commercial offerings. If Nintendo wants to hit you with so many invalid lawsuits that you're forced to fold then this certainly won't stop them.
It's just bullying and it's going to keep happening until there's laws in place protecting it.
Some of the best inventions in history came from people reverse engineering the work of others. If we want to keep moving forward then we can't let companies bully people out of innovating. It's shooting ourselves in the foot.
The thing is that we don't know if the lawsuits are invalid.
The previous times these types of issues have actually gone to court (Nintendo v. Tengen back in the '80s and Sony v. Bleem in the '90s) pretty much all ended in the same way: the emulator/bypass maker won the suit, but the copyright holder drowned them in so many legal costs they had to fold anyway. And these were larger companies with much more resources than any indie emulator dev can muster.
EDIT: also, it should be noted that Tengen and Bleem were able to win their cases specifically because their chip/software were complete reverse engineers and did not contain any Nintendo/Sony proprietary code. It's not to say that if an emulator like Yuzu that requires a cryptographic key from an actual console were to go to court that they wouldn't still win as long as that key is not provided, but it does give the console maker more leverage, and without a lot of resources, indie emulator devs would likely not want to take the chance.
This was always an impressive emulator - it was originally made for the Open Pandora (an ARM-based mini-computer not much bigger than a DS). It's always been free for that - it's just, you know, you'd have to own an Open Pandora (I do!)
Also free for Raspberry Pi and runs really well on it.
Do you happen to know if there are packages or downloads for it. I was looking to archive it
It's been years, but this is where I got it before.
Damn that machine seems awesome. and its successor Pyra seems petty damn cool too
Yeah it was pretty nifty in lots of ways. Loads of emulators, of course, and doing stuff like compiling apps directly on the device itself was neat.
Frustrating in lots of other ways too, though. I don't think the Pyra ever really got off the ground, unfortunately.
Ahh fair enough. I guess that's all totally expected with homebrew hardware
Dang, I just bought it 10 years ago too. Should've waited.
Same, bought it a decade ago, well worth it.
They probably have a price adjustment policy
I am always amazed at its official forum. The dev has tight control over it, each post need to be approved by him in order to post, there are many threads that are years old on the front page mainly due to the fact that the dev didn't approve new response.
Case in point, there was a update a while ago that moves the default save folder to another location, many user had posted threads asking solution, without any resolution, I have also faced this issue few months back and finally tracked it down, decided to post it and can't.
Yeah the dev has always been an asshole. Drastic is great but he's terrible.
I just bought it one month ago ðŸ˜
And you didn't lose anything here
Waiting for eggns to become free
It is
Didn't know, i thought if you want to use pro version then you gotta pirate, good to know
Nevermind there are In-App-purchases
Yes, i said that
Huh, is this why it was suddenly ported to the Miyoo Mini on the new OnionOS version? Was very surprised when I saw it because I thought it was closed source.
Doesn't work nearly as well as citra in my experience, but I'm using pretty low powered hardware too.
Citra is a 3DS emulator, this is a DS one, how are you comparing them?
Perhaps they misread, at least I did
I mean, if they actually tried it they should know what it's about even without reading the article...
Making it free seems like admitting guilt
Hey, I bought this back in the day.
It's a great piece of software, cool to see it open sourced so it can live on despite Nintendo's lawyers
Well, can't find it and they talk about open-sourcing since 2019. Not sure it's still on the works.
Bought this a couple of months ago myself that said its probably a good thing it's being open sourced I just have bad timing and bad luck in general when I buy things of the play store.
Just as an example I bought GTA Vice City and a few weeks later my phone updated to 14 and it hasn't loaded or even seen an update since. So yeah avoid that one.