Israel's religious right has a clear plan for Gaza: 'We are occupying, deporting and settling'

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Israel's religious right has a clear plan for Gaza: 'We are occupying, deporting and settling'
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Genocide.

But hey, it's only genocide until they are all gone. After that it's all cookies and rainbows.

"Genocide!"

"It's not genocide, they're still there..."

later

"Genocide, they are all gone!"

"Never again 😢"

lights candle

Oh? God told you to take their homes away? With violence?

That changes everything! Please continue.

For those not in the know, this is literally the founding story of Israel - God told them to genocide the Canaanites and steal their land. What we’re seeing here is violence that continues to be perpetuated by religious traditions (about events which never really happened, according to biblical scholars).

What's the verse or chapter or whatever where this can be found?

Lots of places (like… so, so many places), but here’s one in Numbers 31 where they kill all the men, most of the women, and all male children. In fact, Moses commands them to keep killing because it wasn’t genocidey enough the first time.

6 And Moses sent them to the war, a thousand of every tribe, them and Phinehas the son of Eleazar the priest, to the war, with the holy instruments, and the trumpets to blow in his hand.

7 And they warred against the Midianites, as the LORD commanded Moses; and they slew all the males.

8 And they slew the kings of Midian, beside the rest of them that were slain; namely, Evi, and Rekem, and Zur, and Hur, and Reba, five kings of Midian: Balaam also the son of Beor they slew with the sword.

9 And the children of Israel took all the women of Midian captives, and their little ones, and took the spoil of all their cattle, and all their flocks, and all their goods.

10 And they burnt all their cities wherein they dwelt, and all their goodly castles, with fire.

11 And they took all the spoil, and all the prey, both of men and of beasts.

12 And they brought the captives, and the prey, and the spoil, unto Moses, and Eleazar the priest, and unto the congregation of the children of Israel, unto the camp at the plains of Moab, which are by Jordan near Jericho.

13 And Moses, and Eleazar the priest, and all the princes of the congregation, went forth to meet them without the camp.

14 And Moses was wroth with the officers of the host, with the captains over thousands, and captains over hundreds, which came from the battle.

15 And Moses said unto them, Have ye saved all the women alive?

16 Behold, these caused the children of Israel, through the counsel of Balaam, to commit trespass against the LORD in the matter of Peor, and there was a plague among the congregation of the LORD.

17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.

18 But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.

Holy shit.... I always hear about this and that being in the Bible or whatever book but I've never seen the specifics. It's way worse than I thought.

Thanks for the example.

But I was emphatically told this was not what they were doing by several apologists! They wouldn't have lied, would they?!

Maybe not the apologists, they're just drinking the piss flavored Kool aid.

Those making the piss punch could use another type of punch. All the propagandists, everywhere.

A lot of focus on lemmy is on billionaires and not nearly enough on propagandists. It's the propagandists that enable the billionaires to continue, and in this case it's the propagandists that "allow" for arguments over reality to exist.

I wish hell were real, it would be full to the brim with propagandists, billionaires, and fundamental religious nutters. And who am I kidding, probably me too lol

That's not what deport means. That's displace.

At this scale that's Ethnic Cleansing.

They have been doing this for more than 70 years. Israel exists on stolen Palestinian land.

what the fuck is wrong with humans

We're greedy fucks and vulnerable to bubbles. There's a concept that humans have a strong internal moral compass and some of us might. Most people though, just go with the flow, and let the people around them guide their morals - this seems to happen especially awfully in religious communities. Weirdly enough a fair number of awful religious people seem aware of how immoral they are and repeat the thought "Without God's guidance we'd be animals" which just highlights how awful they actually are.

They will openly say this and still the US does nothing to stop it

Just like North America, when the British sent their religious fanatics to colonize their new colonies.

Religious Zionists, who believe the Jewish people have divine authority to rule from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea, make up only around 14% of Israel's population. But in recent years they have greatly expanded their influence in the military, the government and society at large,

"In recent years..." What? Israel itself is a Zionist project since the beginning, from Hovevei Zion to Herzl to Haganah to Ben-Gurion to Sharon and Netanyahu.