âI think itâll rally us, and I think weâll be better voters because of this,â he said. âItâs easy for me to say we accidentally did this, we didnât fully understand and, and weâd never do that again. We vote him in a second time? It probably says a lot about who we are.â
Agreed. Now apply this same thinking to trump.
PLEASE
All republicans are white nationalists at this point. They would have left the party by now if they werenât. Ironically their nationalism is against the interest of the nation.
I had some hope like 8 years ago that Republicans would split and oust the smaller white nationalist, fascist section to let it wither. But no. They did what they did with the Tea Party and absorbed them, letting the fringe take them over.
It's the lack of ranked choice voting. It forces center-right neoliberals to share a party with fascists and progressives to share a party with slightly less psychopathic neoliberals.
We are all domestic terrorists
As a moderate Republican that lives in Enid, statements like this are exactly how people like him get elected. When you call all of us Nazis, calling an actual Nazi what he is means nothing.
I moved here after he had already been elected and first saw ESJC gathering recall signatures while I was out shopping. When they said they were campaigning against a white supremacist I shrugged them off and kept shopping assuming it was standard hyperbole. A few days later I got around to googling him and realized he was an actual Nazi and was super surprised.
When you cry wolf, no one believes you when there is a wolf. Iâm sure as fuck not a white supremacist, but you just called me one. Thatâs how you make me ignore you when you call the next guy one.
Republicans have a fascist as their presidential nominee.
A bar that serves out-and-proud Nazis is a Nazi bar.
I havenât voted in my primary yet. But keep it up, youâre the exact reason actual nazis are able to hide in the open. No one that isnât already in your group think actually listens to or believes you.
Republicans are the ones giving cover to Nazis. Stop trying to blame other people for the fact that the white nationalists have a home in the GOP.
And yet you elected a president who gave a eulogy at a KKK exalted cyclopsâs funeral as a personal friend. Having people we donât like in our party is a bit different from glorifying them. I moved from the Seattle area to Enid and there was far more legitimate hate in the blue area.
Although he filibustered against the 1964 Civil Rights Act and supported the Vietnam War earlier in his career, Byrd's views changed considerably over the course of his life; by the early 2000s, he had completely renounced racism and segregation. Byrd was outspoken in his opposition to the Iraq War.
Fuck off with your false equivalency.
The leader of the Republican party is on record as wanting to ban Muslims from entering the country, said Obama wasn't born in the US (because he's black), tried to organize a putsch to overthrow a democratically elected government, diverted COVID supplies from areas who didn't support him politically, and is calling refugees "animals."
Compared to Biden who gave a speech at the funeral of a very flawed, but reformed, man.
If you can't see the difference, it's because you don't want to.
As a moderate Republican
No such thing. If you still identify as a Republican, you're either a fascist or a fascist-enabler. Neither is a moderate.
statements like this are exactly how people like him get elected. When you call all of us Nazis, calling an actual Nazi what he is means nothing.
This is what you sound like:
When you cry wolf, no one believes you when there is a wolf
Works the other way around too: if you keep calling wolves lambs, people are going to stop believing you too.
Iâm sure as fuck not a white supremacist
You just vote for white supremacists and/or people who actively defend white supremacists and then act like that's a thing psychologically healthy people do.
Cool. So youâre calling me a nazi because of association with people I neither support nor associate with. Wanna know what that does? It convinces me to never associate with you. It also means that when you call anyone else a nazi, I will straight up ignore you. Way to be part of the problem, you are actively enabling nazis by harboring and covering them. Just what I would expect from a standard bigot.
Imagine if you cared half as much about the Nazis in your party as you do about them being called Nazis.
Oh, I absolutely do care which is why Iâm ecstatic that this guy got successfully recalled. Itâs just bullshit that he got that far and people crying wolf nazi is how he did.
Ah yes, the radical left are the ones keeping you from cleaning your party out.
Tell me: how many Confederate flags is too many for a political rally?
The worst parts of Lemmy show up when one doesn't fall lockstep into whatever flavor of far-left naviete is being pushed down-thread.
I don't agree with everything you posted above but the name calling you were handed in response to an attempt at earnest conversation is an excellent window into the grade school maturity of those very elements.
I used to be more centrist but the left has actively forced me to the right. I grew up in MA and my conservative friends all think Iâm liberal. I just personally realize in not left because of people like this. I prefer the party that is kind to me on the street. Being a liberal in Enid is far easier and more comfortable than being a centrist in Seattle. Fascism is a hell of a drug and Seattle loves its drugs.
I grew up in a conservative stronghold and still live adjacent to several of them. Separating ideas from people is a maturing point and one that I hope you and your detractors aspire to.
The attribution in this space is off the charts.
So youâre calling me a nazi
Nope. I specifically said "white supremacist or enabler of white supremacists", which is accurate for every Republican.
While all nazis are white supremacists, not all white supremacists are nazis. Nazism is a specific kind of white supremacist ideology that isn't identical to the brand of white supremacist fascism currently ruling the GOP.
people I neither support nor associate with
Calling yourself a Republican is as textbook "supporting or associating with" the Republican Party as it gets and the Republican Party is a white supremacist fascist party. Ergo, you're either lying or don't know what the words you're using mean. Probably a bit of both, as is standard for the Trump cult.
It convinces me to never associate with you
Don't threaten me with the lack of an awful time đ
it also means that when you call anyone else a nazi, I will straight up ignore you
Well it's not like you paid that close attention the first time around, what with changing what words I used đ
you are actively enabling nazis by harboring and covering them
Nope, that would be you and the rest of your buddies in the fascist party pretending that you're just "moderate conservatives" that in no way associate with fascists by voting for a fascist party and identifying as being part of a fascist party.
Just what I would expect from a standard bigot.
More standard GOP projection đ
I just want to say Iâm loving your comments ITT. Very well-written and a pleasure to read!
Thanks, I appreciate it! đ«¶
So youâre an intolerant extremist that lumps any and everyone that doesnât agree 100% with you into a broad category that you dehumanize and violently oppose by all means necessary to publicly shame them into compliance. Got it, youâre literally a textbook fascist. Add in your deliberate harboring of white supremacists by purposefully giving them cover to hide.
I donât associate with radical fascists. Have a good life.
"No u" is always the way Republicans end this conversation, because they can't be bothered to confront the white supremicists in their party.
They exclusively punch left.
So youâre an intolerant extremist
Nope, that's the people of theparty you're defending
lumps any and everyone that doesnât agree 100% with you into a broad category that you dehumanize and violently oppose by all means necessary to publicly shame them into compliance
Add in your deliberate harboring of white supremacists by purposefully giving them cover to hide.
Again, still you. Doesn't it hurt your brain to project that much?
I donât associate with radical fascists
Yeah you do. Or were you lying about being a Republican?
What fun churlishness, now let's do you:
Ah yes. It's other people's fault that a person is a Nazi.
What a smart comic!
It's almost as if my point was the laziness of a broad brush and the inability to have a conversation without falling back to antics deserving of the playground.
Well that's not the point of the comic, so that was a massive failure.
Subtext is hard, but I do believe you can learn to find it.
Unfortunately, I have little doubt that you'll continue giving cover to fascists in the name of enlightened centrism.
something something, the two party system has had disastrous consequences to the human race, something something.
Politics definitely isnât a single axis scale.
you're right about that. It's not a single axis scale. It's a binary.
The problem is it's so much easier to just paint all Republicans with a broad brush rather than actually try to fix the party. Democrats like myself are just as likely to tend toward tribalism and the "us versus them" mentality.
Good luck routing out the fascists and bigots. I hope the remaining reasonable Republicans can regain some control.
Im pretty well done with the established GOP, it just sucks because for anyone that isnât very solidly left there is literally nothing that matches your views at all anymore. My wife is way further left than me but is still right of center by the current standards and is really struggling with not having any choices that she can actually support.
You think people who are "solidly left" have a party that matches their views?
I think the alt left violently bullying anyone and assuming control of the DNC, the same way the Trump assholes did to the GOP. But that's most of Lemmy so they see it as a good thing.
I really, really wish the "alt left" was in control of the DNC, instead of the "middle, bordering on rightwing" that is in control.
Thank god. I was a little bit nervous he was going to pull it off. His signs have been all over town for over a month and only in the last week did I see any signs against him, there werenât that many.
Judd Blevins sounds like a name made up by Japanese game developers in the 80s trying to come up with English sounding names.
Die in a fire, fash.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Blevins faced the recall vote after local activists learned that he had marched alongside neo-Nazis in Charlottesville, Virginia, in 2017 and led an Oklahoma chapter of the white nationalist group Identity Evropa.
As voters trickled into polling stations Tuesday, many said they didnât vote in that race and had no idea back then that Blevins, a former Marine who now works for his familyâs roofing business, had been active in white nationalist groups.
The articles included photos of Blevins in 2017, marching alongside tiki torch-wielding neo-Nazis at a rally in Charlottesville and the next day at Unite the Right, carrying the original Oklahoma flag at an event where counterprotesters were beaten and a woman was murdered.
They included screenshots of Blevinsâ posts: racist and antisemitic writings in secret forums and chats where he identified himself under a pseudonym as the Oklahoma state coordinator for Identity Evropa, one of the largest and most active white nationalist organizations in the alt-right movement.
In November â after six months of activism, protests and heated speeches at the cityâs regular council meetings â when it became clear that Blevins would neither explain nor apologize, the ESJC submitted the signatures it had collected and filed a recall petition.
He compared himself to former President Donald Trump, besieged on all sides by a faction of far-left âpervertsâ and a deep state within the City Council that went all the way up to the mayor, whom he accused of working with the ESJC and orchestrating Pattersonâs candidacy.
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Sounds like a delusional loser who was unfit to serve in a democracy. Good riddance.
Heads up that there was a massive leak of Patriot Front (nazi) info that can be downloaded as a torrent. I'm perma-sharing the download because I have no data cap by my ISP. Out these fuckers.
This dude was part of a different group, but Unicorn Riot was mentioned as publishing leaked material outing him in this article and it reminded me to promote the old fash doxing torrent. Go get your copy today and find out if someone you know is a fucking secret traitor. And then tell everyone they know.
Hell yeah, get fucked Nazi chud!
May this be the start of a wonderful trend.
đ This kind of thing should be posted regularly as a neonazi honeypot sting operation.
Agreed. Now apply this same thinking to trump.
PLEASE
All republicans are white nationalists at this point. They would have left the party by now if they werenât. Ironically their nationalism is against the interest of the nation.
I had some hope like 8 years ago that Republicans would split and oust the smaller white nationalist, fascist section to let it wither. But no. They did what they did with the Tea Party and absorbed them, letting the fringe take them over.
It's the lack of ranked choice voting. It forces center-right neoliberals to share a party with fascists and progressives to share a party with slightly less psychopathic neoliberals.
We are all domestic terrorists
As a moderate Republican that lives in Enid, statements like this are exactly how people like him get elected. When you call all of us Nazis, calling an actual Nazi what he is means nothing.
I moved here after he had already been elected and first saw ESJC gathering recall signatures while I was out shopping. When they said they were campaigning against a white supremacist I shrugged them off and kept shopping assuming it was standard hyperbole. A few days later I got around to googling him and realized he was an actual Nazi and was super surprised.
When you cry wolf, no one believes you when there is a wolf. Iâm sure as fuck not a white supremacist, but you just called me one. Thatâs how you make me ignore you when you call the next guy one.
Republicans have a fascist as their presidential nominee.
A bar that serves out-and-proud Nazis is a Nazi bar.
I havenât voted in my primary yet. But keep it up, youâre the exact reason actual nazis are able to hide in the open. No one that isnât already in your group think actually listens to or believes you.
Republicans are the ones giving cover to Nazis. Stop trying to blame other people for the fact that the white nationalists have a home in the GOP.
And yet you elected a president who gave a eulogy at a KKK exalted cyclopsâs funeral as a personal friend. Having people we donât like in our party is a bit different from glorifying them. I moved from the Seattle area to Enid and there was far more legitimate hate in the blue area.
Fuck off with your false equivalency.
The leader of the Republican party is on record as wanting to ban Muslims from entering the country, said Obama wasn't born in the US (because he's black), tried to organize a putsch to overthrow a democratically elected government, diverted COVID supplies from areas who didn't support him politically, and is calling refugees "animals."
Compared to Biden who gave a speech at the funeral of a very flawed, but reformed, man.
If you can't see the difference, it's because you don't want to.
No such thing. If you still identify as a Republican, you're either a fascist or a fascist-enabler. Neither is a moderate.
This is what you sound like:
Works the other way around too: if you keep calling wolves lambs, people are going to stop believing you too.
You just vote for white supremacists and/or people who actively defend white supremacists and then act like that's a thing psychologically healthy people do.
Cool. So youâre calling me a nazi because of association with people I neither support nor associate with. Wanna know what that does? It convinces me to never associate with you. It also means that when you call anyone else a nazi, I will straight up ignore you. Way to be part of the problem, you are actively enabling nazis by harboring and covering them. Just what I would expect from a standard bigot.
Imagine if you cared half as much about the Nazis in your party as you do about them being called Nazis.
Oh, I absolutely do care which is why Iâm ecstatic that this guy got successfully recalled. Itâs just bullshit that he got that far and people crying
wolfnazi is how he did.Ah yes, the radical left are the ones keeping you from cleaning your party out.
Tell me: how many Confederate flags is too many for a political rally?
The worst parts of Lemmy show up when one doesn't fall lockstep into whatever flavor of far-left naviete is being pushed down-thread.
I don't agree with everything you posted above but the name calling you were handed in response to an attempt at earnest conversation is an excellent window into the grade school maturity of those very elements.
I used to be more centrist but the left has actively forced me to the right. I grew up in MA and my conservative friends all think Iâm liberal. I just personally realize in not left because of people like this. I prefer the party that is kind to me on the street. Being a liberal in Enid is far easier and more comfortable than being a centrist in Seattle. Fascism is a hell of a drug and Seattle loves its drugs.
I grew up in a conservative stronghold and still live adjacent to several of them. Separating ideas from people is a maturing point and one that I hope you and your detractors aspire to.
The attribution in this space is off the charts.
Nope. I specifically said "white supremacist or enabler of white supremacists", which is accurate for every Republican.
While all nazis are white supremacists, not all white supremacists are nazis. Nazism is a specific kind of white supremacist ideology that isn't identical to the brand of white supremacist fascism currently ruling the GOP.
Calling yourself a Republican is as textbook "supporting or associating with" the Republican Party as it gets and the Republican Party is a white supremacist fascist party. Ergo, you're either lying or don't know what the words you're using mean. Probably a bit of both, as is standard for the Trump cult.
Don't threaten me with the lack of an awful time đ
Well it's not like you paid that close attention the first time around, what with changing what words I used đ
Nope, that would be you and the rest of your buddies in the fascist party pretending that you're just "moderate conservatives" that in no way associate with fascists by voting for a fascist party and identifying as being part of a fascist party.
More standard GOP projection đ
I just want to say Iâm loving your comments ITT. Very well-written and a pleasure to read!
Thanks, I appreciate it! đ«¶
So youâre an intolerant extremist that lumps any and everyone that doesnât agree 100% with you into a broad category that you dehumanize and violently oppose by all means necessary to publicly shame them into compliance. Got it, youâre literally a textbook fascist. Add in your deliberate harboring of white supremacists by purposefully giving them cover to hide.
I donât associate with radical fascists. Have a good life.
"No u" is always the way Republicans end this conversation, because they can't be bothered to confront the white supremicists in their party.
They exclusively punch left.
Nope, that's the people of theparty you're defending
Still the Republican party.
Nope, that's still the Republican party, who embody ALL of the 14 common features of fascism
Again, still you. Doesn't it hurt your brain to project that much?
Yeah you do. Or were you lying about being a Republican?
What fun churlishness, now let's do you:
Ah yes. It's other people's fault that a person is a Nazi.
What a smart comic!
It's almost as if my point was the laziness of a broad brush and the inability to have a conversation without falling back to antics deserving of the playground.
Well that's not the point of the comic, so that was a massive failure.
Subtext is hard, but I do believe you can learn to find it.
Unfortunately, I have little doubt that you'll continue giving cover to fascists in the name of enlightened centrism.
Iâm sorry, the card says âmoops.â
Oh no, please don't hit me with your broad brush of righteousness and name calling... Whatever will I do?
Continue to push your false equivalency, obviously.
Every accusation is a confession, no?
something something, the two party system has had disastrous consequences to the human race, something something.
Politics definitely isnât a single axis scale.
you're right about that. It's not a single axis scale. It's a binary.
The problem is it's so much easier to just paint all Republicans with a broad brush rather than actually try to fix the party. Democrats like myself are just as likely to tend toward tribalism and the "us versus them" mentality. Good luck routing out the fascists and bigots. I hope the remaining reasonable Republicans can regain some control.
Im pretty well done with the established GOP, it just sucks because for anyone that isnât very solidly left there is literally nothing that matches your views at all anymore. My wife is way further left than me but is still right of center by the current standards and is really struggling with not having any choices that she can actually support.
You think people who are "solidly left" have a party that matches their views?
I think the alt left violently bullying anyone and assuming control of the DNC, the same way the Trump assholes did to the GOP. But that's most of Lemmy so they see it as a good thing.
I really, really wish the "alt left" was in control of the DNC, instead of the "middle, bordering on rightwing" that is in control.
Thank god. I was a little bit nervous he was going to pull it off. His signs have been all over town for over a month and only in the last week did I see any signs against him, there werenât that many.
Judd Blevins sounds like a name made up by Japanese game developers in the 80s trying to come up with English sounding names.
Die in a fire, fash.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Blevins faced the recall vote after local activists learned that he had marched alongside neo-Nazis in Charlottesville, Virginia, in 2017 and led an Oklahoma chapter of the white nationalist group Identity Evropa.
As voters trickled into polling stations Tuesday, many said they didnât vote in that race and had no idea back then that Blevins, a former Marine who now works for his familyâs roofing business, had been active in white nationalist groups.
The articles included photos of Blevins in 2017, marching alongside tiki torch-wielding neo-Nazis at a rally in Charlottesville and the next day at Unite the Right, carrying the original Oklahoma flag at an event where counterprotesters were beaten and a woman was murdered.
They included screenshots of Blevinsâ posts: racist and antisemitic writings in secret forums and chats where he identified himself under a pseudonym as the Oklahoma state coordinator for Identity Evropa, one of the largest and most active white nationalist organizations in the alt-right movement.
In November â after six months of activism, protests and heated speeches at the cityâs regular council meetings â when it became clear that Blevins would neither explain nor apologize, the ESJC submitted the signatures it had collected and filed a recall petition.
He compared himself to former President Donald Trump, besieged on all sides by a faction of far-left âpervertsâ and a deep state within the City Council that went all the way up to the mayor, whom he accused of working with the ESJC and orchestrating Pattersonâs candidacy.
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Sounds like a delusional loser who was unfit to serve in a democracy. Good riddance.
Heads up that there was a massive leak of Patriot Front (nazi) info that can be downloaded as a torrent. I'm perma-sharing the download because I have no data cap by my ISP. Out these fuckers.
This dude was part of a different group, but Unicorn Riot was mentioned as publishing leaked material outing him in this article and it reminded me to promote the old fash doxing torrent. Go get your copy today and find out if someone you know is a fucking secret traitor. And then tell everyone they know.
https://unicornriot.ninja/2022/patriot-front-fascist-leak-exposes-nationwide-racist-campaigns/#bittorrent