Since Germany's legalisation, I started rolling joints myself instead of making my SO do all the work lol
Ahhh yes the tampon phase. I remember those days.
Although in 2024 I would recommend anyone to be done with smoking and buy a vaporizer. Even if you don't consume as much, a dynavap is only 40-60EU, allows you to pretty much use any heat source, gives excellent vapor and is built to last.
Vaporents are the future :)
There's the ritual, doing the thing, and the social aspects of joints. I love a good vape too, but absolutely nothing will ever replace joints and blunts for me.
Dry herb flavor is bonkers. But, I've found that the effects are very different for me vs combustion. With combustion being preferred.
Interesting. They seem to be having a sale right now where I can get a rad neon pink colour "b" variant vape for 20€. Is this any good?
And compared to smoking with coal filters, are capes less damaging in terms of smoking? Afaik, it should be because you're essentially only inhaling hot air instead of actually burning matter, right? Not a huge concern for me, but something I'd be interested to know.
I have no experience with the B but I think they should be fine. It's the same tip as the M but just a silicone stem. There will be a durability difference in relation to stainless steel obviously but that's why it's cheaper.
Make sure to watch a few videos because there is a little bit of a learning curve and the activity itself is different from smoking a joint.
With regards to health vaping is currently assumed to be definitely less hazardous.
I went ahead and ordered the B. Looking forward to giving it a go. Thanks for the recommendation :)
No problem man. I hope it works out for you! I found it something to get used to after I stopped smoking tobacco 5 years ago but I went haven't looked back ever since.
Try to make sure there's no herb between the filter and the paper, makes getting it tight around the filter much easier. Once you manage to tuck the paper around the filter nicely and have a nice grip around that part, it's much easier to get the rest of the joint tight as well. And when the joint is properly tight around the filter, the filter won't fly off when you shake the joint from the other end to get it tighter.
Tldr just make sure you get the paper around the filter good and tight, the rest will fall in place
Listen to this man!
Hey thanks.
That's not common for someone to say about me, haha.
Try to succeed, and avoid failure.
“Wise words!”
Anyone in here roll them backwards or inside out? That's my favorite way, burn off the excess paper. You look like a true pro rolling those ones
Dutch style.
This is the way. What papers do you like
We call that "a bandiera" in Italy
For me the nicest thing about legalization has been moving to vape cartridges. Especially if you are a very infrequent smoker.
As a very infrequent smoker: please tell me more!
The cartridges never go bad so as long as you store them properly you can keep one more or less indefinitely. They're pretty cheap too. And less harsh than flower. Very convenient if you just want something around to use whenever you need it. All you need is a battery.
The advancement of smoking tech in the legal
market blows my mind.
God bless humanity for black markets, because fuck authoritarians, but also god bless humanity for free markets even more.
Most advanced idea in the black market was pot brownies. Five years after legalization and I’m buying little self contained vape cartridges where all I need to do is pull and out comes pot vapor of any strain I want.
Yep. And it's cheaper too!
So much cheaper. And I can get carts that smell like strawberries instead of pot, so I don’t get in trouble with my apartment building.
I use a re-usable battery, but the self-contained vapes are super impressive. No charging required, nothing but unwrap and pull.
Nice work. Good use of the roach. When I roll it takes me about 10-20 minutes and while that's a long time for some, I just prefer my joints to have a more packed feeling. My advice is to get a set of "tools" or just one, which will act as a poker and a tamper to pack your leaves down in the tube before you seal it. Helps avoid the bit of a gap you have at the bottom. You'll notice a better pull on the smoke when you inhale and your joints will burn more evenly/waste less weed. Happy smoking from California.
This is the way. I'm a little bit spoiled and just use preolled cones. But you can still fuck it up. I have real good luck with a 10-12" poking stick, sitting it inside the cone, and then pouring my bud into the funnel. This way the poking stick is preventing the bud from falling until I pull up on it and twist letting only a little bit of bud at a time to fall to the very bottom, tamp down on the bud that fell, and repeat 4-5 times depending on the size of the joint.
Packs it evenly and you don't get that weak spot right after the filter where it never gets packed down.
We have a makeshift tray out of carton that has a crease where I can put the paper with the filter, and we use a little cocktail-umbrella-thingy to push the weed a little further down the joint. Though I didn't feel like I needed it necessarily - I was mostly fine just lightly tapping the bottom of the joint on the table to get a somewhat even distribution.
Which gap do you mean exactly? Don't quite know what you mean
Thanks for the tips. Cheers!
On the bottom right of the joint in your picture, it looks like there's space where you can see through the paper. Get something like a lolli pop stick, and before you tie off the end, tamp the weed down so it's all a tighter pack. The more even the pack, the better the burn.
Oh, yea, I see it now. I think I just squished the paper at that spot so it didn't distribute equally. I'll make sure to try this next time
If your packing and rolling game is good enough, you can just pinch the tip and shake the joint to have it tamp down itself.
My hands and fingers are jealous. I bought some cheap little cigarette roller thing for when I want to roll some. It does a pretty decent job actually.
Dude, it's not easy at all. I had to start again because the first one wouldn't close properly. My shaky fingers did not do an amazing job at the second attempt either, I'd argue :D
Doesn't sound like a bad idea, the cigarette roller thingy
It’s all hemp based and stupidly cheap on Amazon, like $8 cad.
If you're struggling, you can try to roll the cone first and then pack it. I'm a complete klutz and that's what I did when I was smoking. With time, you'll become comfortable enough to roll "conventionally".
The problem with it not properly closing is usually that you packed it too full btw.
Good idea, I'll try that next time
You'll get it after years and years and rolling thousands. It'll be normal. Then you can move on to a reverse or inside out joint. I don't even know how to call it. Just flip the paper over so the glue is on the outside bottom, now when it's rolled there will a bunch of excess paper you can burn off. Makes a better tasting joint because you're using less paper. And when you burn off the excess, if you turn the joint just right, you can light the joint too. People will think it's amazing.
Looks good to me! I haven't rolled a joint in a decade, maybe I should change that
🙏🏻
How do you smoke?
I just pack a bowl or take an edible
I haven't packed a bowl in more than a decade. Joints and blunts for me 100% of the time pretty much
I just vape my lemonade scented extract so my neighbors don’t complain about the smell
Do you use OCB Coal filters? These can be a little bit tricky to get rolled into a joint. I like the Curved OCB Tips the most, maybe give them a try to up your game. Although this looks pretty good for a start.
Yea, I'm using coal filters as they're a little more pleasant to smoke with. I used to choke a lot smoking through paper filters. But thanks for the suggestion - I'll keep it in mind!
Does the "good stuff" not get yoinked out of there with a charcoal filter?
Not to my knowledge. The cannabinoids and terpenes go through the filters, and the rest you don't want to inhale are filtered out. Makes for a more pleasant smoking experience all around - less itching, less coughing
Sweet I'm going to give it a try. I smoke joints the way other people smoke cigarettes, so I feel like it would make a difference.
Yea, cigarette filters aren't what your looking for for sure lol. According to my research, they also filter a substantial amount of THC in addition to anything else that might be filtered by them, so it's not an ideal high. You're probably better off just using self-made paper filters. Charcoal filters are where it's at, though
Oh nah, I smoke joints with glass filters that I cut myself out of borosilicate tubes. I meant "the way other people smoke cigarettes" as in quantity and frequency; I average 10 joints a day, every day. I'd smoke more if I could but I just don't have the time 😂
I did experiment with packing Top tubes with weed but the cigarette filter takes out "the good stuff" which is why I was skeptical of the charcoal ones.
Oh, yea sorry lol
So far, I'm quite content. Now glass filters, though. What's their deal?
Dude I'm telling you, glass filters are the way for sure. I cut a piece of 8mm OD boro tube down to approximately 30mm, which in my opinion is the ideal length and gauge for 1 1/4 papers. I can make I think 120 of them for like 9 bucks and I reuse them until they get lost or find their way to someone else's ashtray.
They never collapse or get soggy, even if the person you're smoking with drools like Homer Simpson. And if it's clean it tastes better than a cardboard filter too. It doesn't filter very effectively though, and in about 1% of my joints I suck a little flower into my mouth.
I thought I might be able to fill one with activated carbon and cap it with steel wool or something. That would be the best of both worlds, in my opinion.
Yeah i feel that, i only smoke with charcoal filters(for 3+ years) :D
Have you tried the purize filters? I find they dont have as much of a taste of their own. Sadly not every kiosk or gas station offers them but headshops usually have them.
These seem quite similar to what I'm using. What's the difference exactly?
Good question, maybe it's the size of coal or the thickness/shape of the ceramics, but i found they taste less of coal.
Huh. I'll have to try those sometime
Hey pretty good op! Better than the ones i roll
🙏🏻
Practice makes perfect!
Nice looking joint.
I’m not in awe of the man who’s built 10,000 things once. I’m in awe of the man who’s built one thing 10,000 times.
— Bruce Lee
Took a lot of effort on my part lol
Do you compress the pot by rolling it back and forth before wrapping the paper? Also is your pot dry?
This particular joint looks like it’s kinda loose.
I knew an old guy with no teeth in Indiana who was part of a family that sold tons of pot. This guy was the family’s designated joint roller and holy shit could he roll a joint. They were perfectly cylindrical, with a filter at one end and the other end tucked down tighter and more symmetrically than an angel’s butthole.
We used to sit there and smoke those joints and play “Greedy”, which is a dice game involving five dice.
Later when I was introduced to the November Games at MIT, the dice game they play is identical to Greedy.
It was dry, I did not roll it back and forth because I lack the dexterity to do that properly without risking a huge spill, and it was pretty loose because I didn't pack it full enough - had I put a bit more damiana in it, it probably would have turned out fine.
Cool story! Have you had the chance to pay him/them a visit sometime later?
Ahhh yes the tampon phase. I remember those days.
Although in 2024 I would recommend anyone to be done with smoking and buy a vaporizer. Even if you don't consume as much, a dynavap is only 40-60EU, allows you to pretty much use any heat source, gives excellent vapor and is built to last.
Vaporents are the future :)
There's the ritual, doing the thing, and the social aspects of joints. I love a good vape too, but absolutely nothing will ever replace joints and blunts for me.
Dry herb flavor is bonkers. But, I've found that the effects are very different for me vs combustion. With combustion being preferred.
Interesting. They seem to be having a sale right now where I can get a rad neon pink colour "b" variant vape for 20€. Is this any good?
And compared to smoking with coal filters, are capes less damaging in terms of smoking? Afaik, it should be because you're essentially only inhaling hot air instead of actually burning matter, right? Not a huge concern for me, but something I'd be interested to know.
I have no experience with the B but I think they should be fine. It's the same tip as the M but just a silicone stem. There will be a durability difference in relation to stainless steel obviously but that's why it's cheaper.
Make sure to watch a few videos because there is a little bit of a learning curve and the activity itself is different from smoking a joint.
With regards to health vaping is currently assumed to be definitely less hazardous.
I went ahead and ordered the B. Looking forward to giving it a go. Thanks for the recommendation :)
No problem man. I hope it works out for you! I found it something to get used to after I stopped smoking tobacco 5 years ago but I went haven't looked back ever since.
Enjoy!
Try to make sure there's no herb between the filter and the paper, makes getting it tight around the filter much easier. Once you manage to tuck the paper around the filter nicely and have a nice grip around that part, it's much easier to get the rest of the joint tight as well. And when the joint is properly tight around the filter, the filter won't fly off when you shake the joint from the other end to get it tighter.
Tldr just make sure you get the paper around the filter good and tight, the rest will fall in place
Listen to this man!
Hey thanks.
That's not common for someone to say about me, haha.
Try to succeed, and avoid failure.
“Wise words!”
Anyone in here roll them backwards or inside out? That's my favorite way, burn off the excess paper. You look like a true pro rolling those ones
Dutch style.
This is the way. What papers do you like
We call that "a bandiera" in Italy
For me the nicest thing about legalization has been moving to vape cartridges. Especially if you are a very infrequent smoker.
As a very infrequent smoker: please tell me more!
The cartridges never go bad so as long as you store them properly you can keep one more or less indefinitely. They're pretty cheap too. And less harsh than flower. Very convenient if you just want something around to use whenever you need it. All you need is a battery.
The advancement of smoking tech in the legal market blows my mind.
God bless humanity for black markets, because fuck authoritarians, but also god bless humanity for free markets even more.
Most advanced idea in the black market was pot brownies. Five years after legalization and I’m buying little self contained vape cartridges where all I need to do is pull and out comes pot vapor of any strain I want.
Yep. And it's cheaper too!
So much cheaper. And I can get carts that smell like strawberries instead of pot, so I don’t get in trouble with my apartment building.
I use a re-usable battery, but the self-contained vapes are super impressive. No charging required, nothing but unwrap and pull.
Nice work. Good use of the roach. When I roll it takes me about 10-20 minutes and while that's a long time for some, I just prefer my joints to have a more packed feeling. My advice is to get a set of "tools" or just one, which will act as a poker and a tamper to pack your leaves down in the tube before you seal it. Helps avoid the bit of a gap you have at the bottom. You'll notice a better pull on the smoke when you inhale and your joints will burn more evenly/waste less weed. Happy smoking from California.
This is the way. I'm a little bit spoiled and just use preolled cones. But you can still fuck it up. I have real good luck with a 10-12" poking stick, sitting it inside the cone, and then pouring my bud into the funnel. This way the poking stick is preventing the bud from falling until I pull up on it and twist letting only a little bit of bud at a time to fall to the very bottom, tamp down on the bud that fell, and repeat 4-5 times depending on the size of the joint.
Packs it evenly and you don't get that weak spot right after the filter where it never gets packed down.
We have a makeshift tray out of carton that has a crease where I can put the paper with the filter, and we use a little cocktail-umbrella-thingy to push the weed a little further down the joint. Though I didn't feel like I needed it necessarily - I was mostly fine just lightly tapping the bottom of the joint on the table to get a somewhat even distribution.
Which gap do you mean exactly? Don't quite know what you mean
Thanks for the tips. Cheers!
On the bottom right of the joint in your picture, it looks like there's space where you can see through the paper. Get something like a lolli pop stick, and before you tie off the end, tamp the weed down so it's all a tighter pack. The more even the pack, the better the burn.
Oh, yea, I see it now. I think I just squished the paper at that spot so it didn't distribute equally. I'll make sure to try this next time
If your packing and rolling game is good enough, you can just pinch the tip and shake the joint to have it tamp down itself.
My hands and fingers are jealous. I bought some cheap little cigarette roller thing for when I want to roll some. It does a pretty decent job actually.
Dude, it's not easy at all. I had to start again because the first one wouldn't close properly. My shaky fingers did not do an amazing job at the second attempt either, I'd argue :D
Doesn't sound like a bad idea, the cigarette roller thingy
https://www.bcsmokeshop.ca/products/raw-rolling-machines
It’s all hemp based and stupidly cheap on Amazon, like $8 cad.
If you're struggling, you can try to roll the cone first and then pack it. I'm a complete klutz and that's what I did when I was smoking. With time, you'll become comfortable enough to roll "conventionally".
The problem with it not properly closing is usually that you packed it too full btw.
Good idea, I'll try that next time
You'll get it after years and years and rolling thousands. It'll be normal. Then you can move on to a reverse or inside out joint. I don't even know how to call it. Just flip the paper over so the glue is on the outside bottom, now when it's rolled there will a bunch of excess paper you can burn off. Makes a better tasting joint because you're using less paper. And when you burn off the excess, if you turn the joint just right, you can light the joint too. People will think it's amazing.
Looks good to me! I haven't rolled a joint in a decade, maybe I should change that
🙏🏻
How do you smoke?
I just pack a bowl or take an edible
I haven't packed a bowl in more than a decade. Joints and blunts for me 100% of the time pretty much
I just vape my lemonade scented extract so my neighbors don’t complain about the smell
Do you use OCB Coal filters? These can be a little bit tricky to get rolled into a joint. I like the Curved OCB Tips the most, maybe give them a try to up your game. Although this looks pretty good for a start.
Yea, I'm using coal filters as they're a little more pleasant to smoke with. I used to choke a lot smoking through paper filters. But thanks for the suggestion - I'll keep it in mind!
Does the "good stuff" not get yoinked out of there with a charcoal filter?
Not to my knowledge. The cannabinoids and terpenes go through the filters, and the rest you don't want to inhale are filtered out. Makes for a more pleasant smoking experience all around - less itching, less coughing
Sweet I'm going to give it a try. I smoke joints the way other people smoke cigarettes, so I feel like it would make a difference.
Yea, cigarette filters aren't what your looking for for sure lol. According to my research, they also filter a substantial amount of THC in addition to anything else that might be filtered by them, so it's not an ideal high. You're probably better off just using self-made paper filters. Charcoal filters are where it's at, though
Oh nah, I smoke joints with glass filters that I cut myself out of borosilicate tubes. I meant "the way other people smoke cigarettes" as in quantity and frequency; I average 10 joints a day, every day. I'd smoke more if I could but I just don't have the time 😂
I did experiment with packing Top tubes with weed but the cigarette filter takes out "the good stuff" which is why I was skeptical of the charcoal ones.
Oh, yea sorry lol
So far, I'm quite content. Now glass filters, though. What's their deal?
Dude I'm telling you, glass filters are the way for sure. I cut a piece of 8mm OD boro tube down to approximately 30mm, which in my opinion is the ideal length and gauge for 1 1/4 papers. I can make I think 120 of them for like 9 bucks and I reuse them until they get lost or find their way to someone else's ashtray.
They never collapse or get soggy, even if the person you're smoking with drools like Homer Simpson. And if it's clean it tastes better than a cardboard filter too. It doesn't filter very effectively though, and in about 1% of my joints I suck a little flower into my mouth.
I thought I might be able to fill one with activated carbon and cap it with steel wool or something. That would be the best of both worlds, in my opinion.
Yeah i feel that, i only smoke with charcoal filters(for 3+ years) :D Have you tried the purize filters? I find they dont have as much of a taste of their own. Sadly not every kiosk or gas station offers them but headshops usually have them.
These seem quite similar to what I'm using. What's the difference exactly?
Good question, maybe it's the size of coal or the thickness/shape of the ceramics, but i found they taste less of coal.
Huh. I'll have to try those sometime
Hey pretty good op! Better than the ones i roll
🙏🏻
Practice makes perfect!
Nice looking joint.
— Bruce Lee
Took a lot of effort on my part lol
Do you compress the pot by rolling it back and forth before wrapping the paper? Also is your pot dry?
This particular joint looks like it’s kinda loose.
I knew an old guy with no teeth in Indiana who was part of a family that sold tons of pot. This guy was the family’s designated joint roller and holy shit could he roll a joint. They were perfectly cylindrical, with a filter at one end and the other end tucked down tighter and more symmetrically than an angel’s butthole.
We used to sit there and smoke those joints and play “Greedy”, which is a dice game involving five dice.
Later when I was introduced to the November Games at MIT, the dice game they play is identical to Greedy.
It was dry, I did not roll it back and forth because I lack the dexterity to do that properly without risking a huge spill, and it was pretty loose because I didn't pack it full enough - had I put a bit more damiana in it, it probably would have turned out fine.
Cool story! Have you had the chance to pay him/them a visit sometime later?