'I will never vote Biden': Some Muslim Americans in a key swing state feel betrayed by the president

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'I will never vote Biden': Some Muslim Americans in a key swing state feel betrayed by the president
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Muslim and Arab Americans say their support was critical to Biden’s winning Michigan in 2020. Some warn they won’t back him again over his blanket support for Israel.

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Wonder what they think Trump would have done differently.

Seriously. Trump is advocating turning Gaza into a parking lot.

And it's not like Democrats have exactly been shy of their general support of Israel, if you've paid any attention at all. They just also happen to acknowledge that Palestinians are people, unlike most Republicans.

It's possible to be angry at both Republicans and Democrats.

But you still must vote for the one likely to do you the least harm if you don't want to get fucked. White Biden sucks he's objectively better than Trump for Muslim Americans. Trump was talking about deporting and blocking them from entering.

Not everyone thinks from a position of harm reduction. If you see a president stand up and speak out in favor of (in your eyes) genocide then you may not react to that ”rationally".

If you're protest voting on principle but not also joining more... radical... organizations that are actually working towards your desires, you're just being foolish.

Lots of voters ate foolish. And there's something to be said for the fact that voting for the lesser evil keeps evil in power. Not saying that's me but I do understand the sentiment.

Which is why you either do something about it or suck it up and vote for the lesser.

Just don't do nothing and then pretend you're taking a stand.

I'm not convinced having a lost Roomba who utters racist bullshit and hands countries over to terrorist organizations is a good pick. If it's Biden and Trump again, I am either not going to vote or go third party. I cannot in good conscience vote for either of them.

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In a First Past the Post voting system, refusing to vote, or voting 3rd party, is numerically the same as an extra vote for the candidate you hate the most. It's just one more vote closer to victory that your opposition gets.

Neither party is great, there's plenty to dislike about both, but it's patently obvious that one is far more harmful than the other.

Well it's not really numerically the same as voting for the candidate you hate the most, it's numerically the same as not voting. And to be honest, it really only matters if you're in a potential swing state. And I'm saying this as someone who still votes despite having lived in a deep red state where my presidential vote always doesn't matter (but I go anyway because down ballot votes do matter and I might as well vote the whole ballot).

Muslim population is significant in certain swing states.

I agree, any loss of votes in a swing state could theoretically be significant.

Same, but a blue state. It really doesn't matter who I vote for, or if I vote at all, when it comes to the president. I can't remember the last time I enjoyed voting for president, and I've voted for decades. I often think about just bowing out of the whole voting scam, but then there's always local shit that gets me to do the deed.

In the sort of two-party system they have in the US, it really is one or the another

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but also to encourage them to leave the top of the ticket blank in protest

Per the article. They do the protest vote.

And if that gets them Trump 2024, what do the smoothbrains think will improve for either Palestinians or Muslims in America?

Considering the guy is literally supporting deporting pro-Palestinian students, I think they've given it the typical amount of thought a modern theist gives anything.

That's effectively a vote for whoever who hate most in the ticket. Not voting has consequences

Somehow he would have found a way to discriminate against all religions involved. He would have tried to make money from Israel over this situation and he would have stationed US troops in Gaza.

Are you serious? You Americans have a brain worm

The next election will likely be a choice between Biden and Trump. So you can either vote for Biden or decide that you don't mind Trump wins.

And as a reminder Trump recognized Jerusalem as the Israeli capital, recognized the Golan heights as being part of Israel, had an Iranian general assassinated, and announced a peace plan which suggested the Israelis should be allowed to annex another 30% of the West Bank. In recent weeks, he's been banging on about there being no better US ally than Israel and how if he's elected Israel will be safer than ever.

You can be critical of Biden, but the republicans are religiously pro-Israel. They don't give a shit about Palestinians. Biden is the better option.

It's like all the idiots who make excuses for Hamas, because they're unaware that for a long time Hamas was supported by Israel, and that by supporting terrorists they're effectively undermining any chance of a Palestinian state.

Us Americans recall the Muslim ban, and the increase in hate crimes after 45 took office. There are no good answers and the protest vote only gets you the worst candidate elected. Do you prefer passive or active genocide?

Some americans make decisions on single issues instead of considering the full voting record and position of a candidate. Some even approve or disapprove for sillier reasons.

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