Video shows stripped Palestinian men detained in Gaza
bbc.com
With fighting raging around Khan Younis and in the north of Gaza, a video has emerged on social media showing dozens of Palestinian men detained by Israel.
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You know who these "Palestinian men" are?
Civilians, most likely. Why, are you okay with treating ANY human being like this?
But of course the IDF won't say who they are or why they are holding them in this position that with all honestly invokes images similar to the holocaust or some other fucked up human tragedy.
Edit: I think your comment is quite shameful. It is an attempt at excusing Israel's humiliating treatment of Palestinians. If you read the article, these people were arrested for simply being men and for being in the North of Gaza... And yeah, you'll probably think anyone in the north deserves to die after Israel told people to evacuate... Even though it bombed them in the North and South and in their homes and shops and streets and everywhere they go. Fuck Israel. Zionism is facism. This is facism. And supporting it is supporting a Hiterly figure who dehumanized Palestinians like Hitler dehumanized Jews. When I see someone see these images and still excuse the crimes of Israel, it makes me hate living in this world.
What makes you assume they are civilians, and shouldn't this be verified? That's the nature of war; It seems provoking one wasn't the best idea. Strip searching them and arresting them is pretty humane considering the alternatives.
For starters one of them was a journalist and he is still detained.
Edit: I think you're turning a blind eye to this. Look at the pictures again. Would a "democracy" do this? Or does it look more like something from a chapter in a history book?
A democracy literally is doing this.
It should be stripped of this self-acclaimed title.
It's an illegitimate apartheid state
You know that a "democracy" doesn't mean "a good country", right? Democracies can do war crimes just as well as dictatorships. It's irrelevant.
Edit: typo
Yeah, you're right... Israel is a shitty democracy.
Edit: at a second thought, are you really a democracy if you run an apartheid system?
The word democracy doesn't mean good.
Also Russia is a democracy and so is China. They said they are so they must be.
They're torturing and interrogating them. That's literally the story here.
You think a strip search is torture?
Yes, humiliation with no purpose is torture.
Translation: "OH this inhumane treatment of Palestinians, noooooo, that's just the special Israeli strip search technique! You strip them, you beat them, you make them do 5 minutes of montage, you take them to the desert, blindfolded, naked, humiliated, like a photo from a history book, and then you make then kneel for 3 hours. Meanwhile they have no idea where their wives or children are, and vice versa. They don't even know what location we brought them TO. AND THAT IS THE GREAT AND AMAZING ISRAELI STRIP SEARCH TECHNIQUE. How dare you call this torture? They were KHAMAS suspects!!"
It's dehumanizing behavior, it's literally in the Holocaust museum described as such.
Every time I see your comments I just imagine Hitler trying to brush the holocaust under a rug.
Then work on your reading comprehension, because this is nothing like the Nazis, despite your ilk's constant attempts at making that false equivalency.
Does Never Again include Palestinians? Yes/no?
I thought Never Again included everyone, but I don't know. You'll have to ask the people who use that phrase.
Either way, this is not comparable. No one is trying to eradicate Palestinian Arabs.
Then why do we have mounting evidence that Israel is trying to commit genocide and ethnic cleansing? I think if you deny the mounting evidence, you must be pretty deluded.
Share it then. I can't deny evidence you've yet to present, and I'm sure as hell not taking your word for it given the statements you've made here.
I've seen no evidence of genocide and I highly doubt Israel would considering their recent history.
I'm going to pretend you are a poor little uninformed person, even though we both know that's not true. Here you go:
https://www.btselem.org/list_of_topics
Othwerwise use Google instead of being so intellectually dishonest, either that or living under a rock but I doubt it.
That's a list of topics not evidence of your claim. None of said topics are labeled as, "genocide," or, "ethnic cleansing," You expect me to sort through all that to find the "mounting evidence" you claim is in there? "Google it" is not providing evidence, it seems like you can't be bothered despite all the time you're spending concern trolling about this.
I may be informed but I'm not omniscient, I'm giving you benefit of the doubt that you might have learned something I have not. My bad, I guess.
No, they're not civilians, they're Hamas members came out of tonnels Northern Gaza when IDF have started to flood them with sea water
And how else is IDF supposed to make sure that they don't have any weapons?
And it's not even comparable, stop equating things with holocaust, it's really disrespectful
Do you have a source or is all this bullshit pouring out of your ass?
What's disrespectful to the holocaust IS TO FUCKING REPEAT IT AND CLAIM THE HIGH MORAL GROUND.
No point arguing with him, he seems much like an pro-Zionist and will claim anything without source - to “prove” his point.
Recommend just block such people, not worth the energy and time.
Even the article he/she linked in response to this says two opposite things: they "surrendered" and that they "were being checked".
Those men in that picture will need therapy, a lot of it, to overcome this crap... If they even make it out alive.
Hamas threw the first punch then ran to hide in the shadows.
How else can you retaliate without blowing up everything casting a shadow?
By retaliating in a manner that doesn't involve blowing up everything that casts a shadow
I feel like trying to define a 'firat punch' in the shit show that has been palestinian-israeli relations is a fruitless task.
Surely a more productive avenue would be to seek common ground, shared humanity and a practical way forward among the moderates on both sides.
It's a very easy task for someone who wants to start the clock at a point that makes Israel look like the victim.
The first punch was dealt by israel. There is no question about this.
It's as like saying "man I wonder who started that Apartheid shit in South Africa. Maybe the black people did it to themselves!
I feel like "there is no question about this." as a statement is just not true. there is definitely some debate about it.
The same debate you can hold for the South Africans. Or any other colony.
People stole their land, then they got mad and retaliated. Then you can start the funny chain.
The original sin remains the creation of the apartheids state of israel on another people's land.
I am not going to respond when you talk like that.
https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/israel-at-war/1701980659-over-150-hamas-terrorists-surrender-to-idf-forces-in-khan-yunis https://www.algemeiner.com/2023/12/07/hamas-terrorists-surrendering-large-numbers-israeli-forces-reports/
And it's a reality of war.
Maybe you missed the memo, but no one believes the IDF anymore and neither should they believe a bunch of people sitting on a pile of skulls that used to be journalists and UN workers.
But yeah I couldn't give two shits about whether or not you like how I speak. Everyone can see through you.
Edit: do you REALLY think you need to blindfold people, strip them to their underwear, and make them sit somewhere in a line on their knees in a humiliating fashion, out in the open to investigate their activity?
This isn't even new. We know Israel tortures people in prison. We know they have been stripping lots of people being detained WITHOUT A FUCKING CHARGE.
Is this a regime you are proud to defend? Seriously
"I'm not gonna respond"
Responds
The IDF: they surrendered
Also the IDF:
One war crime after the next after the next after the next...
The IDF (again): but they are just KHAMAS fighters!
But also the IDF:
Fuck the IDF and all their actions from the bottom of my fucking heart.
This story today almost had me collapse, I don't know what made me not pick up that coffee mug and slam it across the floor. How can anyone allow such sad footage to remain the current reality? How could anyone defend this dehumanization of Palestinian men who have spent the last month mourning their dead or trying to pry them from under rubble, with no food and no clean water? How did Israel get us this fucking far and deep into human rights violations?
Just FYI, holocaust denial began during the holocaust. The denial of this genocide of Palestinians is also happening during. Do you know how many Germans couldn't get themselves to believe the atrocities committed by their government? Do you want to repeat the same today?
Where are you getting this information?
He's getting it from the same people that committed this human rights violation. 😅
Somewhere up his ass
Dude, that report literally said one of them was a well-known journalist.
Bold of you to assume any of these propel complaining read anything beyond the title.
One of them is a well known journalist.
Ya they are men from Palestine. Doesn't make them Hamas because I doubt the IDF are taking prisoners of war. They bomb hospitals and refugee camps. Taking a enemy combatant alive isn't their MO.
That's the point, not all Palestinians are members of Hamas, it's sad that people equate between the two.
Not really.
And Israel does takes POW, how else would it get to know where Israeli hostages are?
If Israel knew where the hostages are then why do so many released hostages say that bombs were firing really close to them? And why do we have reports of dead hostages due to Israeli bombing?
They found them in an active war zone where they said anyone remaining would be considered a potential enemy combatant. They didn't shoot them, instead they arrested them to determine who is a hostile. I guess the IDF is damned if they do and damned if they don't.
They'd be less damned if they stopped their relentless bombing, their overall invasion, had a longer ceasefire for refugees and medical and humanitarian aid, allowed food, medical supplies and humanitarian aid into Gaza, weren't telling people to evacuate during these days and then bombing them, weren't telling them to move to these neighborhoods and then bombing them, weren't killing and kidnapping random Palestinians in Israel and the West Bank, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc ....
It's almost like Israel was once again provoked into war, and all that that entails… cutting off supply lines, destroying enemy infrastructure, launching attacks against Hamas members who surround themselves with human shields, etc, etc, etc…
Gaza needed 500 trucks a day, Israel made sure they get less than that in weeks.
Fuck Israel.
Israel is now fascism.
"Provoked into war" says the country with two fucking separation walls and a history of ethnic cleansing.
Fuck off.
Are you denying Oct 7 happened?
No.
Are you denying the Nakba?
You know that more than one provocation can exist simultaneously, right?
The Nakba happened because Palestine tried to destroy Israel and lost, so they annexed the lands of those who left. That also happened because of Palestinian provocation and violence. It seems a lot like this to me.
That's a very shitty way to try to say "ethnic cleansing".
Imagine if people said that about the holocaust...
Declaring you're going to commit a war crime doesn't make it not a war crime.
Israel loves declaring anything a war zone then arresting people there.
I don't think anyone had a problem with them being interrogated. It's the stripping of them naked, completely unnecessarily, and mistreating them for hours that got everyone angry.
The IDF should be damned, they don't do defence, just apartheid.
Yeah I'm sure they are doing this because it's lots of fun not because they are at war with a force trying to destroy them. 🙄
Have you considered they might be armed?
Have you considered they are innocent until proven guilty and that what Israel did is shameful?
You know that people are arrested before they are proven guilty, right?
Are they also stripped to their underwear and forced to stay on their knees in an undisclosed location? 😬