Republicans: This guy is the oldest president in the history of the USA, what do you mean his son isn't pulling the strings? That is how it works with all elder politicians!
Honestly, it's kind of amazing that they have spent all this time investigating Biden and haven't found anything crooked. How is that even possible for a politician at his level?
I mean, as far as I can tell they have found a lot of crooked, IE suspicious as hell, stuff. Just nothing actually illegal. Like, it was both legal and crooked for him to get his son on the board of a Ukrainian gas company. Seems like everyone skips over that there is plenty of substance in the nonsense republicans are yelling about, this time. Though tbh I could be wrong, because I have no way of knowing for sure which parts of their yelling are completely made up and which are a twist of the truth.
Did he get his son on the board of Burisma or did his son just get himself on the board by using his father's name just like he made "hey, what's up dad?" calls to his father in meetings to make it seem like his father had influence?
Also, I'm not sure that using your influence to put your son on a company's board is inherently crooked. Maybe unethical, but I wouldn't put it as far as crooked.
Also, the Republicans are screaming about Hunter Biden using his father's name to get a job, but are dead silent on Trump's kids doing the same thing. Ivanka got a bunch of trademarks approved in China while her father was President. She had been trying to get them for years unsuccessfully. Then daddy becomes President and suddenly it goes through.
But that's fine, apparently, because Trump.
It’s worse than that. Hunter Biden may have benefitted from what most of us would call “privilege” using his name.
Jared Kushner was denied top secret clearance because the intelligence agencies believed he would be too easily leveraged by foreign powers, especially given his finances. Donald Trump hired him into an official White House job, called him a Middle East advisor, reversed the intelligence decision and gave him top secret clearance.
At the end of the administration Qatari money helped buy a 1.2 billion dollar property Kushner could not manage to sell otherwise for years. It was a well timed bailout from a group that never showed interest before trump was president.
6 months after leaving the White House Saudis invested 2 billion in a fund to managed by Kushner despite his lack of experience managing funds that size.
I’ve never heard of anything like that related to Hunter.
This is true, but it's also whataboutism. It was wrong when both people did it. Presidents shouldn't be doing it at all
Yeah they'll sit around and say stupid shit like it has any meaning. The rich have been riding their parents coattails forever. I don't like it either but it's not exactly earth-shattering news.
Don't like it? Eat the rich.
And untalented nepo babies getting to do things that no one who was not in their position would be able to do at their skill level is also really common. See Tom Hanks' son and Will Smith's kids.
Exactly, if we're being honest it's half the reason (the more honest) people who do work hard and accumulate wealth do it in the first place. So that their kids/grand kids can have better lives. I'm not saying that I think nepotism is a good thing, but that on our list of issues to worry about it's not very high.
I think it's hilarious that after years and years of digging the best they found was that a born-rich-ruling-class, already-a-hedge-fund manager got a cushy job at a natural gas company.
It's so blatantly obvious the GOPs attack on him is all tied to Russias interest in Ukraine.
I don't know the details, but in general it seems pretty obviously crooked. Like, hunter clearly isn't qualified for it. It's entirely possible Joe had nothing to do with it, but if that's so, why haven't we seen any evidence against? I get that this would be proving a negative, but I think the onus is on Biden regardless when something so openly suspicious comes out.
Why does there need to be evidence? It's not illegal to use your connections to get your son a cushy job whether he did it or not.
But it's clearly very unethical, and not something a president should be doing. So if he did, that's a big deal.
First of all, he wasn't president when Hunter got on the board of Burisma. Secondly, that is not an impeachable offense. Thirdly, if you want to talk about presidents using their powers to help out their kids, let's talk about Trump and Ivanka and Jared.
One of my friends got hired as a structural welder because his father was friends with a guy who owns a construction company.
My friend also happens to be a kickass welder.
Should I tell the police?
Checks GOP playbook: let see, what's his stance on abortion?
What do you think he was welding?
Omg, the coat hangers! Get him!
Babies?
A lot of suspicious stuff? Could you name 3?
to get his son on the board of a Ukrainian gas company
Sure seems like Joe didn't do shit beyond father a child 53 years ago. The Biden name is all Hunter really needed for that.
People forget that W. Bush put Hunter on the Amtrak Board, and one board seat leads to other board seats. Joe didn't do jack to get him on the Burisma board.
Dick Cheny and Halliburton strike me infinitley more corrupt than Biden.
True. Cheney also should not be president, along with Biden.
Sigh.
Please don't fuck wit my facts with your trumped up propaganda.
Whats the propaganda?
All of it. All of their yelling is completely made up. Because if they had evidence, they'd show it to us.
Republicians are never going to go after a Democrat for sleazy, self-serving neoliberalism because they're also sleazy, self-serving neoliberals.
It's one of the unspoken rules of the rich -- you can use unimportant bullshit to jostle for votes, viewers and market share but you're never, ever to attack the system that makes them richer.
The moment someone does, watch them band together across "left-wing" and "right-wing" in a show of class solidarity and signal strength the rest of us can only dream of.
Republicans: This guy is the oldest president in the history of the USA, what do you mean his son isn't pulling the strings? That is how it works with all elder politicians!
Honestly, it's kind of amazing that they have spent all this time investigating Biden and haven't found anything crooked. How is that even possible for a politician at his level?
I mean, as far as I can tell they have found a lot of crooked, IE suspicious as hell, stuff. Just nothing actually illegal. Like, it was both legal and crooked for him to get his son on the board of a Ukrainian gas company. Seems like everyone skips over that there is plenty of substance in the nonsense republicans are yelling about, this time. Though tbh I could be wrong, because I have no way of knowing for sure which parts of their yelling are completely made up and which are a twist of the truth.
Did he get his son on the board of Burisma or did his son just get himself on the board by using his father's name just like he made "hey, what's up dad?" calls to his father in meetings to make it seem like his father had influence?
Also, I'm not sure that using your influence to put your son on a company's board is inherently crooked. Maybe unethical, but I wouldn't put it as far as crooked.
Also, the Republicans are screaming about Hunter Biden using his father's name to get a job, but are dead silent on Trump's kids doing the same thing. Ivanka got a bunch of trademarks approved in China while her father was President. She had been trying to get them for years unsuccessfully. Then daddy becomes President and suddenly it goes through.
But that's fine, apparently, because Trump.
It’s worse than that. Hunter Biden may have benefitted from what most of us would call “privilege” using his name.
Jared Kushner was denied top secret clearance because the intelligence agencies believed he would be too easily leveraged by foreign powers, especially given his finances. Donald Trump hired him into an official White House job, called him a Middle East advisor, reversed the intelligence decision and gave him top secret clearance.
At the end of the administration Qatari money helped buy a 1.2 billion dollar property Kushner could not manage to sell otherwise for years. It was a well timed bailout from a group that never showed interest before trump was president.
6 months after leaving the White House Saudis invested 2 billion in a fund to managed by Kushner despite his lack of experience managing funds that size.
I’ve never heard of anything like that related to Hunter.
This is true, but it's also whataboutism. It was wrong when both people did it. Presidents shouldn't be doing it at all
Yeah they'll sit around and say stupid shit like it has any meaning. The rich have been riding their parents coattails forever. I don't like it either but it's not exactly earth-shattering news.
Don't like it? Eat the rich.
And untalented nepo babies getting to do things that no one who was not in their position would be able to do at their skill level is also really common. See Tom Hanks' son and Will Smith's kids.
Exactly, if we're being honest it's half the reason (the more honest) people who do work hard and accumulate wealth do it in the first place. So that their kids/grand kids can have better lives. I'm not saying that I think nepotism is a good thing, but that on our list of issues to worry about it's not very high.
I think it's hilarious that after years and years of digging the best they found was that a born-rich-ruling-class, already-a-hedge-fund manager got a cushy job at a natural gas company.
It's so blatantly obvious the GOPs attack on him is all tied to Russias interest in Ukraine.
I don't know the details, but in general it seems pretty obviously crooked. Like, hunter clearly isn't qualified for it. It's entirely possible Joe had nothing to do with it, but if that's so, why haven't we seen any evidence against? I get that this would be proving a negative, but I think the onus is on Biden regardless when something so openly suspicious comes out.
Why does there need to be evidence? It's not illegal to use your connections to get your son a cushy job whether he did it or not.
But it's clearly very unethical, and not something a president should be doing. So if he did, that's a big deal.
First of all, he wasn't president when Hunter got on the board of Burisma. Secondly, that is not an impeachable offense. Thirdly, if you want to talk about presidents using their powers to help out their kids, let's talk about Trump and Ivanka and Jared.
One of my friends got hired as a structural welder because his father was friends with a guy who owns a construction company.
My friend also happens to be a kickass welder.
Should I tell the police?
Checks GOP playbook: let see, what's his stance on abortion?
What do you think he was welding?
Omg, the coat hangers! Get him!
Babies?
A lot of suspicious stuff? Could you name 3?
Sure seems like Joe didn't do shit beyond father a child 53 years ago. The Biden name is all Hunter really needed for that.
People forget that W. Bush put Hunter on the Amtrak Board, and one board seat leads to other board seats. Joe didn't do jack to get him on the Burisma board.
Dick Cheny and Halliburton strike me infinitley more corrupt than Biden.
True. Cheney also should not be president, along with Biden.
Sigh.
Please don't fuck wit my facts with your trumped up propaganda.
Whats the propaganda?
All of it. All of their yelling is completely made up. Because if they had evidence, they'd show it to us.
Republicians are never going to go after a Democrat for sleazy, self-serving neoliberalism because they're also sleazy, self-serving neoliberals.
It's one of the unspoken rules of the rich -- you can use unimportant bullshit to jostle for votes, viewers and market share but you're never, ever to attack the system that makes them richer.
The moment someone does, watch them band together across "left-wing" and "right-wing" in a show of class solidarity and signal strength the rest of us can only dream of.
But ya know, not trump, he's young.
You're only as old as women you... *retches* oh god. I couldn't finish typing that.