Trump confuses Obama for Biden again at Virginia rally speech

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Trump confuses Obama for Biden again at Virginia rally speech
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Why wouldn’t we?

They don’t even need to. Retirement age exists because we acknowledge that passed some point people are to old to function properly on the job. So what the fuck are they doing in politics?

When offered 2 bad choices i’ll stick with the lesser evil though, which is the one not literally quoting Hitler and campaign promising a dictatorship.

Retirement age exists because we acknowledge that passed some point people are to old to function properly on the job.

That is...not correct. Retirement age exists because at one time it was expected that people would generally achieve a certain level of wealth and live out the rest of their days doing what they wanted with that wealth and time. Plenty of people >65 are fully capable of certain types of work.

Retirement age exists because at one time it was expected that people would generally achieve a certain level of wealth and live out the rest of their days doing what they wanted with that wealth and time.

A retirement age exists because it was fought for by the labor movement, and it was set during the creation of Social Security in the US during the New Deal. It was also set at the average age of death IIRC, and because a large part of the homeless problem during the Great Depression was seniors who had not saved enough money to support themselves without a job's income and were largely unable to obtain new work.

How is genocide the lesser evil?

Because genocide plus fascism is worse than genocide alone. Is this even a real question or are you just trolling?

Genocide is genocide, with or without fascism

No one’s saying it’s not, but one plus the other is worse all around that just the one (still Bad Thing) alone.

The alternative is the same genocide, plus even more of it in more places, most likely. Including right here on American soil.

If a dog pisses on the floor and you give them a treat they are gonna think it's ok to piss on the floor.

Biden could come out and say I could kill 30k Palestinians and my supporters will say the other guy is more dangerous..

If your dog pisses on the floor you don't throw him out and invite a wolf in instead.

These aren't dogs, they're people with political power. You'd have to be a moron to think a slap on the wrist is worth the actual collapse of democracy.

If the only available choices are varied degrees of evil democracy has already collapsed

"Hurr durr, If I'm going to die, it doesn't matter if my options are 'slow torture' or 'painless drug cocktail', they're literally the same"

Rebuilding the US into a dictatorship seems like something, that should be avoided. But then I am not a US citizen.

We have a dictatorship of capital which rules over the duopoly

Yeah so why not just hop in bed with actual dictatorship?

Just look at Russia; it's going so well for them! No genocides at all and it solved all of their problems with capitalism!

And they have shopping carts!!!! Let's be Russia!

/s

Don’t worry I’m sure he knows what it’s like to live in Russia.

Do you honestly believe that trump wouldn’t also support that genocide? Netanyahu is a longtime friend and supporter of trump’s.

Sadly we are stuck with a “lesser of two evils” situation - and Biden, while supporting evil, is still less evil (by far) than trump.

What Trump might do is irrelevant, instead of focusing on what ifs, people should be focusing on right now.

What an enormously stupid thing to say! What a candidate might do while in office is literally how you decide your vote…

So let's ignore Biden committing genocide because the other guy might do it too

Who said that? Nobody, and you’re just pointlessly deflecting? Yeah.

Do you honestly believe that trump wouldn’t also support that genocide

The thread you are commenting on did exactly that

Oh so you just can’t read, got it. You’re aware that genocide is not the topic of this thread right? It’s about who to vote for and sadly that’s not a determining factor. But go on trying to pretend everyone is having the conversation you’d prefer.

Lesser evil is still evil, it really is a testament to how bad things have gotten.

Neither option cares or would actually change much about the atrocities.