Did you say the same thing when Biden couldn't remember Obama name?
Why wouldn’t we?
They don’t even need to. Retirement age exists because we acknowledge that passed some point people are to old to function properly on the job. So what the fuck are they doing in politics?
When offered 2 bad choices i’ll stick with the lesser evil though, which is the one not literally quoting Hitler and campaign promising a dictatorship.
Retirement age exists because we acknowledge that passed some point people are to old to function properly on the job.
That is...not correct. Retirement age exists because at one time it was expected that people would generally achieve a certain level of wealth and live out the rest of their days doing what they wanted with that wealth and time. Plenty of people >65 are fully capable of certain types of work.
Retirement age exists because at one time it was expected that people would generally achieve a certain level of wealth and live out the rest of their days doing what they wanted with that wealth and time.
A retirement age exists because it was fought for by the labor movement, and it was set during the creation of Social Security in the US during the New Deal. It was also set at the average age of death IIRC, and because a large part of the homeless problem during the Great Depression was seniors who had not saved enough money to support themselves without a job's income and were largely unable to obtain new work.
How is genocide the lesser evil?
Because genocide plus fascism is worse than genocide alone. Is this even a real question or are you just trolling?
Genocide is genocide, with or without fascism
No one’s saying it’s not, but one plus the other is worse all around that just the one (still Bad Thing) alone.
Yeah but what about Obama’s TAN SUIT?!?!
You're right - some things are just unforgivable.
1x Genocide < (1 x Genocide + fascism)
you are right, but god damn do I hate it
Fair. It's a shit sandwich.
The alternative is the same genocide, plus even more of it in more places, most likely. Including right here on American soil.
If a dog pisses on the floor and you give them a treat they are gonna think it's ok to piss on the floor.
Biden could come out and say I could kill 30k Palestinians and my supporters will say the other guy is more dangerous..
If your dog pisses on the floor you don't throw him out and invite a wolf in instead.
Dont reward a pissing dog. You dont have to vote for either.
These aren't dogs, they're people with political power. You'd have to be a moron to think a slap on the wrist is worth the actual collapse of democracy.
If the only available choices are varied degrees of evil democracy has already collapsed
"Hurr durr, If I'm going to die, it doesn't matter if my options are 'slow torture' or 'painless drug cocktail', they're literally the same"
Rebuilding the US into a dictatorship seems like something, that should be avoided. But then I am not a US citizen.
We have a dictatorship of capital which rules over the duopoly
Yeah so why not just hop in bed with actual dictatorship?
Just look at Russia; it's going so well for them! No genocides at all and it solved all of their problems with capitalism!
And they have shopping carts!!!! Let's be Russia!
/s
Don’t worry I’m sure he knows what it’s like to live in Russia.
Do you honestly believe that trump wouldn’t also support that genocide? Netanyahu is a longtime friend and supporter of trump’s.
Sadly we are stuck with a “lesser of two evils” situation - and Biden, while supporting evil, is still less evil (by far) than trump.
What Trump might do is irrelevant, instead of focusing on what ifs, people should be focusing on right now.
What an enormously stupid thing to say! What a candidate might do while in office is literally how you decide your vote…
So let's ignore Biden committing genocide because the other guy might do it too
Who said that? Nobody, and you’re just pointlessly deflecting? Yeah.
Do you honestly believe that trump wouldn’t also support that genocide
The thread you are commenting on did exactly that
Oh so you just can’t read, got it. You’re aware that genocide is not the topic of this thread right? It’s about who to vote for and sadly that’s not a determining factor. But go on trying to pretend everyone is having the conversation you’d prefer.
Did you really take a pic of you bringing that up without relevance as proof that it’s relevant?? I mean, it’s a bold move. Dumb, but bold.
Lesser evil is still evil, it really is a testament to how bad things have gotten.
Neither option cares or would actually change much about the atrocities.
Yes.
When you vote for someone you are also voting for the advisors and their other support staff. I much prefer Bidens support staff.
Trump is far too narcissistic to listen to anyone on his support staff tho. I'm sure they're constantly trying to reign him in. But somehow he remains inexplicably popular.
Even his CoS that pushed Obama for cuts to SS?
Oh no, that's worse than anything Trump has done, you've convinced me, switching sides now.
Sorry your guy isn't doing anything to help sales, tough gig.
I dont know who 'your guy' is. I dont support either right wing pedo
Do you have the ability to vote in the coming election? Are you eligible?
That's irrelevant, neither right wing pedo has earned my vote
You are effectively voting for Trump or Biden - whichever candidate you dislike more. By choosing not to vote for one of the major parties you ethically own the awful consequences of whoever is elected.
America has a horrible electoral system and it will almost certainly have a horrible choice in the general election - it fucking sucks. But if Trump is elected and women die because abortion is made nationally illegal or, if you're conservative, I don't know.... either way, that shit is on you if you choose not to participate.
Yeah, it sucks, but voting is your obligation.
It sucks because voters keep allowing it to suck. The blame, if Trump is reelected, lies solely on voters not demanding their party primary Biden. Instead of holding him accountable they kept punching at the people trying to hold him accountable. Anyone that opposed the approved echo chamber rhetoric was quickly labeled Russian, bot, paid by Putin, etc.
I am not effectively voting for either, red fascism or blue fascism is still fascism.
You are acting childish, women's lives are on the line. The system is broken as shit but it's what we have - voting for anyone but blue fascist or red fascist is just shirking responsibility.
That fucking said, make your voice heard in the primary, vote uncommitted or for a local competitor (if one actually exists and isn't worse than Biden). In other races vote for candidates that have a reasonable chance of winning, if you live in a solid blue state DSA is usually a great option.
The system fucking sucks and I am sure as hell not going to defend it, I hate it so much that I emigrated... but I'm still going to vote.
women's lives are on the line
Did you have that same energy when Obama said that codifying Roe versus Wade was no longer a priority?
Yea, it was fucking awful. Obama was not a good president - because of his actions we ended up with a watered-down ACA that has only marginally improved healthcare accessibility... and he often gets credit for gay marriage when he was really just riding the tail end of the social movement. If Clinton had locked in gay marriage in the 90s I'd be fucking impressed, there was a social movement but it didn't have traction back then - by Obama several states had already done the hard work. Also drones fucking suck...
But yea, France just wrote Abortion accessibility into their constitution, that's how you fucking do it.
Opinion discarded
“Obama’s”
This little slip doesn't prove Donnie is demented, but he is demented.
Didn't he call his wife "Mercedes" a week or so ago?
Yea but to be fair he has a sticker on his Mercedes that says, "My other car is Melania."
Did you say the same thing when Biden couldn't remember Obama name?
Why wouldn’t we?
They don’t even need to. Retirement age exists because we acknowledge that passed some point people are to old to function properly on the job. So what the fuck are they doing in politics?
When offered 2 bad choices i’ll stick with the lesser evil though, which is the one not literally quoting Hitler and campaign promising a dictatorship.
That is...not correct. Retirement age exists because at one time it was expected that people would generally achieve a certain level of wealth and live out the rest of their days doing what they wanted with that wealth and time. Plenty of people >65 are fully capable of certain types of work.
A retirement age exists because it was fought for by the labor movement, and it was set during the creation of Social Security in the US during the New Deal. It was also set at the average age of death IIRC, and because a large part of the homeless problem during the Great Depression was seniors who had not saved enough money to support themselves without a job's income and were largely unable to obtain new work.
How is genocide the lesser evil?
Because genocide plus fascism is worse than genocide alone. Is this even a real question or are you just trolling?
Genocide is genocide, with or without fascism
No one’s saying it’s not, but one plus the other is worse all around that just the one (still Bad Thing) alone.
Yeah but what about Obama’s TAN SUIT?!?!
You're right - some things are just unforgivable.
1x Genocide < (1 x Genocide + fascism)
you are right, but god damn do I hate it
Fair. It's a shit sandwich.
The alternative is the same genocide, plus even more of it in more places, most likely. Including right here on American soil.
If a dog pisses on the floor and you give them a treat they are gonna think it's ok to piss on the floor.
Biden could come out and say I could kill 30k Palestinians and my supporters will say the other guy is more dangerous..
If your dog pisses on the floor you don't throw him out and invite a wolf in instead.
Dont reward a pissing dog. You dont have to vote for either.
These aren't dogs, they're people with political power. You'd have to be a moron to think a slap on the wrist is worth the actual collapse of democracy.
If the only available choices are varied degrees of evil democracy has already collapsed
"Hurr durr, If I'm going to die, it doesn't matter if my options are 'slow torture' or 'painless drug cocktail', they're literally the same"
Rebuilding the US into a dictatorship seems like something, that should be avoided. But then I am not a US citizen.
We have a dictatorship of capital which rules over the duopoly
Yeah so why not just hop in bed with actual dictatorship?
Just look at Russia; it's going so well for them! No genocides at all and it solved all of their problems with capitalism!
And they have shopping carts!!!! Let's be Russia!
/s
Don’t worry I’m sure he knows what it’s like to live in Russia.
Do you honestly believe that trump wouldn’t also support that genocide? Netanyahu is a longtime friend and supporter of trump’s.
Sadly we are stuck with a “lesser of two evils” situation - and Biden, while supporting evil, is still less evil (by far) than trump.
What Trump might do is irrelevant, instead of focusing on what ifs, people should be focusing on right now.
What an enormously stupid thing to say! What a candidate might do while in office is literally how you decide your vote…
So let's ignore Biden committing genocide because the other guy might do it too
Who said that? Nobody, and you’re just pointlessly deflecting? Yeah.
The thread you are commenting on did exactly that
Oh so you just can’t read, got it. You’re aware that genocide is not the topic of this thread right? It’s about who to vote for and sadly that’s not a determining factor. But go on trying to pretend everyone is having the conversation you’d prefer.
Yes it is sparky
Did you really take a pic of you bringing that up without relevance as proof that it’s relevant?? I mean, it’s a bold move. Dumb, but bold.
Lesser evil is still evil, it really is a testament to how bad things have gotten.
Neither option cares or would actually change much about the atrocities.
Yes.
When you vote for someone you are also voting for the advisors and their other support staff. I much prefer Bidens support staff.
Trump is far too narcissistic to listen to anyone on his support staff tho. I'm sure they're constantly trying to reign him in. But somehow he remains inexplicably popular.
Even his CoS that pushed Obama for cuts to SS?
Oh no, that's worse than anything Trump has done, you've convinced me, switching sides now.
Sorry your guy isn't doing anything to help sales, tough gig.
I dont know who 'your guy' is. I dont support either right wing pedo
Do you have the ability to vote in the coming election? Are you eligible?
That's irrelevant, neither right wing pedo has earned my vote
You are effectively voting for Trump or Biden - whichever candidate you dislike more. By choosing not to vote for one of the major parties you ethically own the awful consequences of whoever is elected.
America has a horrible electoral system and it will almost certainly have a horrible choice in the general election - it fucking sucks. But if Trump is elected and women die because abortion is made nationally illegal or, if you're conservative, I don't know.... either way, that shit is on you if you choose not to participate.
Yeah, it sucks, but voting is your obligation.
It sucks because voters keep allowing it to suck. The blame, if Trump is reelected, lies solely on voters not demanding their party primary Biden. Instead of holding him accountable they kept punching at the people trying to hold him accountable. Anyone that opposed the approved echo chamber rhetoric was quickly labeled Russian, bot, paid by Putin, etc.
I am not effectively voting for either, red fascism or blue fascism is still fascism.
You are acting childish, women's lives are on the line. The system is broken as shit but it's what we have - voting for anyone but blue fascist or red fascist is just shirking responsibility.
That fucking said, make your voice heard in the primary, vote uncommitted or for a local competitor (if one actually exists and isn't worse than Biden). In other races vote for candidates that have a reasonable chance of winning, if you live in a solid blue state DSA is usually a great option.
The system fucking sucks and I am sure as hell not going to defend it, I hate it so much that I emigrated... but I'm still going to vote.
Did you have that same energy when Obama said that codifying Roe versus Wade was no longer a priority?
Yea, it was fucking awful. Obama was not a good president - because of his actions we ended up with a watered-down ACA that has only marginally improved healthcare accessibility... and he often gets credit for gay marriage when he was really just riding the tail end of the social movement. If Clinton had locked in gay marriage in the 90s I'd be fucking impressed, there was a social movement but it didn't have traction back then - by Obama several states had already done the hard work. Also drones fucking suck...
But yea, France just wrote Abortion accessibility into their constitution, that's how you fucking do it.
Opinion discarded
“Obama’s”
This little slip doesn't prove Donnie is demented, but he is demented.
Didn't he call his wife "Mercedes" a week or so ago?
Yea but to be fair he has a sticker on his Mercedes that says, "My other car is Melania."
Yeah, they are both old fucks. Anything else?