I'm confused. By all accounts Jerry and the entire cast came together to point out their hate for Trump and Republicans. But because he doesn't agree with one issue he's been labeled as a right winger?
I'm so far left that young leftists think I'm too extreme, to the point where they call be right wing for disagreeing with every tiny thing they say. The young left have become the keepers of "right/wrong think"
Edit: a lot of young people who call themselves left, are doing everything possible to push people away from the left, instead of making them allies.
Can you point out where anyone labeled him as a "right winger?"
Your comment is a complete false dichotomy based solely off a strawman argument.
You're not paying attention. I've seen him called right wing quite a few times outside of Lemmy, different forums etc. Also lots of articles out there essentially calling him the new right wing mouthpiece.
All you gotta do is Google
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The “one issue” happens to be supporting a genocide, so it’s kind of a big one? I haven’t seen anyone calling him right-wing, but you can bet if cops were firing rubber bullets at peaceful student protesters under a republican administration, every lefty from NY to LA would be wringing their hands and crying “fascism”. The times they are a-changing my friend. It’s not just about left or right, and I’m glad these kids understand that.
And the dude openly dated a minor when he was nearly 40,
"Shoshanna is a person, not an age. She is extremely bright. She’s funny, sharp, very alert. We just get along. You can hear the click.”
Chappelle has said far worse things about every other race than Richards did about black people that night, but as we know that somehow doesn't count
You might not have noticed, but young adults aren't big Chapelle fans these days either. The whole transphobia thing doesn't play so well with the under-40s.
And Chapelle's comedy is cringe and awful, and completely unrelated to the topic at-hand. Nice strawman.
I'm sure you love strawmen, you get to burn down someone whose opinion deviates from yours even a little. We used to call it "wrong think" when we were actually fighting for people's rights and not just being arrogant assholes, pushing everyone away from the left.
"Even a little". You fall off a cliff if you move slightly in the wrong direction, "Even a little".
So you admit that budging is wrong think.
Only if it's about issues like genocide. "A sprinkle of genocide is fine" is what psychos think like.
But what about another situation no-one is talking about!
Sure this applies only if you also think that Chappelle should also be tarred and feathered. But you're here wanting to forgive both of them.
Also he's recently joined the whole "woke has ruined comedy" bit. Which is very much right wing.
Oh and he's also a predator that dated a teenager when he was in his 30s.
I'm so far left that young leftists think I'm too extreme
Sure you are, champ.
they call be right wing for disagreeing with every tiny thing they say
You're so close to a moment of self-awareness, and yet so far.
Kid I've been left since before you were nothing but ball juice
You're 40, you're a child in both in age and mentality.
Must be true Insaan said it. If you only knew. I didn't grow up in Western comfort like you, I've washed brains off my sidewalk after guerrilla offensives into my town. I'm a native of this continent, not some colonizer remnant. I've seen your western brutality and the hypocrisy and patriarchal bullshit that comes with it. All you do is talk on the internet but you don't actually do Jack shit about anything. Grab your guns and travel to Gaza, that would be a start
I've always found the left more annoying than the right. The right are wrong, but the left are self-righteous smug dickheads. Liberals are like a chimera of both and I think that's why I hate them more than the right even though they're objectively less bad. That's my shitty analysis anyway.
It’s just the rise of loud, groupthink edgelords, refusing to think past a hyper-emotional brainwash.
Opposing a genocide and those who support it makes you a hyper-emotional edgelord? That's quite the edgelord take on the subject.
That's how it works these days.
I'm pro-trans, but I'm not pro-trans people in women's sports. This makes me a anti-trans nazi in the vast majority of leftie/progressivist people's eyes, who clearly is a closeted Trump supporter. It's the whole 'we must be intolerant of intertolerance' type fo thing... but they've twist it to 'we must be intolerant of any disagreement whatsoever with our unrealistic ideological agenda that has no basis in a factual reality'.
There is no allowance for variance of reasonable opinion or an objective reality. You are with us, or against us, and therefore the enemy.
Lefties and young folks who are left leaning tend to be as braindead and lockstep as the Trumpers they claim to hate.
with our unrealistic ideological agenda that has no basis in a factual reality
I think I've spotted their issue with you.
My opinion on trans athletes is that I lack the qualifications to have an opinion. What happens to the human body during transition should be pretty well-documented by now, though. I'm sure if there's any real problem, the doctors who work in gender-affirming care would be pretty vocal about it.
They're biased, though. I don't assign a moral value to that, I mean sociologically.
Fucking lol
The doctors who research this stuff for a living are biased
Science is biased
Reality is biased
You're a regressive who hates that reality disagrees with you and would prefer to live in a fantasy world of your own making
Uh, calm down mate. Maybe you think you're replying to somebody else? A doctor making their living from providing transgender healthcare is absolutely a biased party, as is any researcher choosing to focus on this topic. That's reflexivity, it's quite important to acknowledge.
I haven't even stated my position. Clearly some people suffer from gender dysphoria and evidently they are happier living as the other sex. They should be free to do so.
Buddy that's like saying you won't listen to physicists about gravity because they're biased
Researching and reporting on scientific realities isn't bias
It's stating the truth
You would definitely need to acknowledge a physicist's bias towards the theory they have chosen to research. That's absolutely a thing! I'm not saying anything controversial here. I don't even like sociology very much, reflexivity is boring and over-emphasised but it's a legitimate issue, and it's a big issue in transgender medicine. Which people are very keen to point out when the research doesn't agree with their own position.
Fucking lol
Chud
Just admit you hate science and want to live in a fantasy world where reality agrees with you 🤷🏻♀️
Chuds, Chads and Chodes, it's a hell of a world.
TubularTittyFrog seems like as good as any to block.
I'm confused. By all accounts Jerry and the entire cast came together to point out their hate for Trump and Republicans. But because he doesn't agree with one issue he's been labeled as a right winger? I'm so far left that young leftists think I'm too extreme, to the point where they call be right wing for disagreeing with every tiny thing they say. The young left have become the keepers of "right/wrong think"
Edit: a lot of young people who call themselves left, are doing everything possible to push people away from the left, instead of making them allies.
Can you point out where anyone labeled him as a "right winger?"
Your comment is a complete false dichotomy based solely off a strawman argument.
You're not paying attention. I've seen him called right wing quite a few times outside of Lemmy, different forums etc. Also lots of articles out there essentially calling him the new right wing mouthpiece.
All you gotta do is Google
I'm so sorry to inform you of this, but in the year of our Zord 2024, we are no longer accepting "one of the ten billion apes, bots, advertising agencies, liars, and trolls who are screaming into the Internet at all times said something I disagree with" as a valid source of outrage, controversy, or secondhand conversation.
Please understand that this is not personal, nor is it a judgement on your specific opinion. We would recommend addressing the comment you disagree with directly at its source, if you feel you must address it at all.
Damn. This is a great response!
The “one issue” happens to be supporting a genocide, so it’s kind of a big one? I haven’t seen anyone calling him right-wing, but you can bet if cops were firing rubber bullets at peaceful student protesters under a republican administration, every lefty from NY to LA would be wringing their hands and crying “fascism”. The times they are a-changing my friend. It’s not just about left or right, and I’m glad these kids understand that.
And the dude openly dated a minor when he was nearly 40, "Shoshanna is a person, not an age. She is extremely bright. She’s funny, sharp, very alert. We just get along. You can hear the click.”
Chappelle has said far worse things about every other race than Richards did about black people that night, but as we know that somehow doesn't count
You might not have noticed, but young adults aren't big Chapelle fans these days either. The whole transphobia thing doesn't play so well with the under-40s.
And Chapelle's comedy is cringe and awful, and completely unrelated to the topic at-hand. Nice strawman.
I'm sure you love strawmen, you get to burn down someone whose opinion deviates from yours even a little. We used to call it "wrong think" when we were actually fighting for people's rights and not just being arrogant assholes, pushing everyone away from the left.
"Even a little". You fall off a cliff if you move slightly in the wrong direction, "Even a little".
So you admit that budging is wrong think.
Only if it's about issues like genocide. "A sprinkle of genocide is fine" is what psychos think like.
But what about another situation no-one is talking about!
Sure this applies only if you also think that Chappelle should also be tarred and feathered. But you're here wanting to forgive both of them.
"""One issue"""
Which is supporting a genocide.
Also he's recently joined the whole "woke has ruined comedy" bit. Which is very much right wing.
Oh and he's also a predator that dated a teenager when he was in his 30s.
Sure you are, champ.
You're so close to a moment of self-awareness, and yet so far.
Kid I've been left since before you were nothing but ball juice
You're 40, you're a child in both in age and mentality.
Must be true Insaan said it. If you only knew. I didn't grow up in Western comfort like you, I've washed brains off my sidewalk after guerrilla offensives into my town. I'm a native of this continent, not some colonizer remnant. I've seen your western brutality and the hypocrisy and patriarchal bullshit that comes with it. All you do is talk on the internet but you don't actually do Jack shit about anything. Grab your guns and travel to Gaza, that would be a start
I've always found the left more annoying than the right. The right are wrong, but the left are self-righteous smug dickheads. Liberals are like a chimera of both and I think that's why I hate them more than the right even though they're objectively less bad. That's my shitty analysis anyway.
It’s just the rise of loud, groupthink edgelords, refusing to think past a hyper-emotional brainwash.
Opposing a genocide and those who support it makes you a hyper-emotional edgelord? That's quite the edgelord take on the subject.
That's how it works these days.
I'm pro-trans, but I'm not pro-trans people in women's sports. This makes me a anti-trans nazi in the vast majority of leftie/progressivist people's eyes, who clearly is a closeted Trump supporter. It's the whole 'we must be intolerant of intertolerance' type fo thing... but they've twist it to 'we must be intolerant of any disagreement whatsoever with our unrealistic ideological agenda that has no basis in a factual reality'.
There is no allowance for variance of reasonable opinion or an objective reality. You are with us, or against us, and therefore the enemy.
Lefties and young folks who are left leaning tend to be as braindead and lockstep as the Trumpers they claim to hate.
I think I've spotted their issue with you.
My opinion on trans athletes is that I lack the qualifications to have an opinion. What happens to the human body during transition should be pretty well-documented by now, though. I'm sure if there's any real problem, the doctors who work in gender-affirming care would be pretty vocal about it.
They're biased, though. I don't assign a moral value to that, I mean sociologically.
Fucking lol
The doctors who research this stuff for a living are biased
Science is biased
Reality is biased
You're a regressive who hates that reality disagrees with you and would prefer to live in a fantasy world of your own making
Uh, calm down mate. Maybe you think you're replying to somebody else? A doctor making their living from providing transgender healthcare is absolutely a biased party, as is any researcher choosing to focus on this topic. That's reflexivity, it's quite important to acknowledge.
This is some top notch conspiracy theory you got there. A sanity check, religious foundations are funding most TERFy propaganda and "free-speech" absolute-bullshit-ism. https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/2600-leaked-anti-trans-lobbyist-emails Are they more biased than international medical bodies? (American Psychological Organization advocates for trans youth https://www.apa.org/monitor/2022/07/advocating-transgender-nonbinary-youths World Health professional Association advocates for transgender adults and youth https://www.wpath.org/publications/soc) Are you condemning their consensus just because they are interested in the topic? That is moronic. What about the nazis? Are they less biased because they are less invested in transmisogyny? ( https://www.versobooks.com/blogs/news/4188-the-eradication-of-talmudic-abstractions-anti-semitism-transmisogyny-and-the-national-socialist-project ) What about litigation that has come from independent judges, like Forstater's TERFism was bashed by the first judge as "unworthy of respect in a democratic society"? What about the appeal court that deliberated that she can believe whatever she wants but still can't misgender trans and non-binary people? (https://criticallegalthinking.com/2021/06/29/not-a-nazi-but-forstater-v-cgd-europe/ ) What about the biologists that independently conclude that biological sex is a spectrum? ( Scientific American visualizing sex as a spectrum https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/sa-visual/visualizing-sex-as-a-spectrum/ 1600 biologists condemns Trump anti-transgender proposal https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-46067559 Super low rates of regrets or detransition in trans youth https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/landmark-systematic-review-of-trans Transphobe christian psychiatrist McHugh is wrong, transition mental health outcomes https://genderanalysis.net/2015/09/paul-mchugh-is-wrong-transitioning-is-effective-gender-analysis-10/
Jon Stewart destroys ignorant GOP lawmaker for criminalizing youth transition https://iv.datura.network/watch?v=NPmjNYt71fk Scientific American Trans girls belong to female Sports https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/trans-girls-belong-on-girls-sports-teams/) You are not talking about individual researchers pal, you are talking about the mainstream medical establishment and legal institutions. So crawl back to your cave or wherever you came from and socialize animals that have no gender identity, as it is apparently the only way to preserve your fragile heteronormativity, lmao.
I haven't even stated my position. Clearly some people suffer from gender dysphoria and evidently they are happier living as the other sex. They should be free to do so.
Buddy that's like saying you won't listen to physicists about gravity because they're biased
Researching and reporting on scientific realities isn't bias
It's stating the truth
You would definitely need to acknowledge a physicist's bias towards the theory they have chosen to research. That's absolutely a thing! I'm not saying anything controversial here. I don't even like sociology very much, reflexivity is boring and over-emphasised but it's a legitimate issue, and it's a big issue in transgender medicine. Which people are very keen to point out when the research doesn't agree with their own position.
Fucking lol
Chud
Just admit you hate science and want to live in a fantasy world where reality agrees with you 🤷🏻♀️
Chuds, Chads and Chodes, it's a hell of a world.
TubularTittyFrog seems like as good as any to block.
"Have you heard of these men pretending to be women to win in female sports? I weep for society etc etc"
The notion that people transition to gain social benefits, real or perceived, is absurd.
In fact people who transition are aware that transitioning will bring them to a lesser social status and overall heightened risk.
Unemployment, homelessness, subpar health services, and violence.
There is a driving force greater than these social losses that makes them transition anyway.
Bigots and ignorants might as well stop the hatred-mongering for a second and think, what the fuck that force could be.
The response: Increased mental health benefits from transitioning to live life in way true to their self.
Many homophobe clergymen might think that this equals publicly announcing you take it up the butt, but in fact
it is an expression of identity that cisgender people enjoy without question.
When put this way, without all the TERF/nazi dogwhistling ("groomers", "trans-identified males", "biological males", "degenerates", etc),
it gets harder and harder to keep pretending that the driving force behind the anti-gender movement is not hatred.
How can you possibly say "I want mental health outcomes only for cisgender people" without being exposed as a total hatemonger and bigot?
https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/sa-visual/visualizing-sex-as-a-spectrum/
https://genderanalysis.net/2015/09/paul-mchugh-is-wrong-transitioning-is-effective-gender-analysis-10/
https://iv.datura.network/watch?v=NPmjNYt71fk
https://www.apa.org/monitor/2022/07/advocating-transgender-nonbinary-youths
https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/2600-leaked-anti-trans-lobbyist-emails
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/trans-girls-belong-on-girls-sports-teams/
https://www.wpath.org/publications/soc
How often did you watch women's sports before you became aware of the controversial issue of trans women competing in them?
If you're "pro-trans" then that means you believe that, for example, a trans woman is a woman, because she says she is.
So then you don't believe women should compete in women's sports?
....
Showing your ass there, huh?
Annoying aren't they.