Lots of times the restaurants won't even have milk

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Some this has to do with shelf life. Beverages containing alcohol have a long shelf life. A restaurant is not going to take losses on having 50 kinds of juice or whatever on hand. Another angle to this is that a lot of the drinks on the alcoholic menu are cocktails, so just combinations of other shit they have. Finally, what adult is just drinking milk? Have some water, it is good for you.

Is this coming from experience or are you just kind of guessing? There are plenty of cocktails that use non-shelf stable stuff that you can get anywhere. On top of that, the new movement towards providing non-alcoholic drinks on the menu just reuses these same ingredients in different ways.

I've worked on both sides of the house for 14 years and I'm in management now. The issue is once you open products, not when they're sitting there. Sitting there is also an issue, however, as stock that doesn't move still incurs costs. I work on the institutional side now and we only provide nonalcoholic beverages, but they are either single serve or cheap bulk prep. These are not what people are expecting at a restaurant. Many items in cocktails also have long shelf lives after opening or are cheap/move quickly.

Many items in cocktails also have long shelf lives after opening or are cheap/move quickly.

This is why I think we see variations on actual cocktails so much...you have it, it's open, so move it.

Exactly. It's like having a breakfast only restaurant. You can make a menu of 50 entrees by combining 8 main ingredients with various cooking methods and spices.

that's Taco Bell and they've been doing it for a long time

Lots of diners, too. That's why they tend to be the restaurants that are around for 67 years, lol.

With having IBD I'm pretty much limited to water or milk. I'm absolutely going to drink milk when I can because I get fed up drinking water multiple times a day every fucking day.

I guess, I primarily drink water. I'm not restricted in the same way, but I'm an innate fat fuck, so water is my drink of choice. I'm surprised milk wouldn't inflame IBD.

The concept of being fed up with water is so alien to me. Water doesn't have some powerful, delicious flavor but the sensation of drinking water is almost always one of satisfying refreshment.

How can you be irritated by water? "Damn it, this is only exactly what my body needs!"

Seems like a huge failure in their nutrition education.

Drink water for your hydration, everything else is a treat and not hydration.

This thread clears up to me why so many people have digestive issues and/or obesity.

Idk, I like other beverages as well, but I've only ever been disappointed by water when it has contaminants I can taste.

Sounds more like you dislike bad water. I think well filtered water at this point is table stakes.

Especially if you live in the US where you either have a leaf service line or more PFAS than you’d believe

Some people crave or have to have some kind of flavor with their liquids or they don't want it. I have known multiple people who thought water tasted gross, which is somewhat legit because I had to get used to the different water taste when I went to school on the opposite side of town, but they just thought any kind of water was gross. They'd always have a soda or coffee or something.

My issue isn't flavor necessarily, its carbonation. But plain/unsweetened soda water is gross and soda streams aren't worth it to make my own infused water.

My wife has colitis and dairy fucks her up 😮

Can you drink tea?

I just like having milk with every meal. I don't like water and having dinner with a fizzy drink is just wrong.

What do you mean you dont like water? You mean that liquid that makes you die if you dont have any for a couple days?

Milk is absolutely disgusting during a meal since it gets so warm and gross.

Milk is absolutely disgusting during a meal since it gets so warm and gross

Historically, milk was generally consumed warm. Breasts aren't kegerators.

Historically it was only consumed by babies too.

Evidence suggests those that can tolerate lactose as adults are descended from farmers who drank milk to survive during seasons of bad yields.

Milk is full of great vitamins and minerals. I haven't verified this claim but I heard someone say recently a person can entirely meet their entire nutritional needs on purely milk and potatoes, which doesn't sound super pleasant to have as a diet, it's certainly an easy baseline to meet

Sounds plausible. The main thing peds worry about for toddlers primarily subsisting off milk is iron deficiency. Potatoes have iron and vitamin c.

Milk is absolutely delightful with greasy foods. When are you supposed to drink it if not with meals?

No it doesn't. Milk can stay cold for ages. Like I would have any meal gone within 10 minutes.

Consuming a meal in less than ten minutes is really not indicative of healthy eating habits.

Uh why? I eat most of my meals in about that amount of time when I eat by myself. like how long does it take to eat a fuckin sandwich lmao, or a bowl of pasta? And I don't have any eating disorders, I'm not at an unhealthy weight. I just ... eat.

Just because it’s essential for life doesn’t mean that people have to like it. I really don’t like drinking water unless it’s just out of the fridge or cooler. I always add cordial to it.

I used to think like this in high school until I joined football and learned how much I loved water during practice, now I carry a water bottle everywhere for a swig whenever I get a slight thirst

Not judging you on your milk drinking, but drinking too much milk can have serious side effects. Humans weren't biologically made to drink milk their whole lives.

They weren't biologically made to drink alcohol or eat big macs their whole lives either yet here you are.

Yeah, this is a hella weird comment in an alcohol thread. That stuff is actually toxic, and popular mainly because of it.

What's with Lemmy's obsession with water? Most people know that water is the best thing to drink but this site is preachy as fuck about it.

Everyone knows alcohol is poison. Not many people know the side effects of drinking too much milk. You could actually become addicted to it and it would become a problem. I had a friend who had some trouble with it, which is why I typed that comment.

You're getting downvoted but you're actually correct. My grandfather was told by his doctor not to drink so much milk. He drank at least 3 glasses a day. I forget why but if you're telling an 85 yo to stop doing something as a doctor, it probably has some bad short-term effects

Source? Addictive milk is kind of "out of left field" for me.

We show the estimable rational addiction model tends to yield spurious evidence in favor of the rational addiction hypothesis when aggregate data are used. Direct application of the canonical model yields results seemingly indicative that non-addictive commodities such as milk, eggs, and oranges are rationally addictive.

This is literally a study about how to get bad conclusions from this model of addiction. It's supposed to be ridiculous.

That's my mistake! Had company and posted something I didn't read. My apologies. Maybe I can learn something from this article then.

having dinner with a fizzy drink is just wrong.

Its not mandatory, but I'll have you know this is incorrect.