I don't. Look, we already had this discussion years ago. You don't feel bad for the stormtrooper, or their families when you blow up the deathstar. They knew what they were getting into.
But they didn't. The guy had me in the first half when he cried because Buzz Aldrin didn't like him. Elon wasn't always so obvious with his bullshit. There was a time when he looked minted as a purveyor of a bright future - the mask slipped.
The mask has been off for at least 8 years.
No sympathy for anyone who still stans that phony.
When did he call that rescuer a "pedo"? Because that's when I changed my mind on him forever.
Edit: It was June 2018.
Then he fired his PR team not long after that. He pushed out all the people getting paid to help him not look like an idiot.
Musk should likely have all his storage media searched, just randomly accusing people of things like pedophilia for no reason is often projection, "don't look at me, I clearly can't be one as I'm the most vocal about being against them, look over here instead" or whatever
What Elon did was terrible, but it wasn't "for no reason"
The dude attacked him in the media, and Elon is petty and vindictive.
Was the harshness of Elon's response representative of the attack? Absolutely not. But it wasn't nothing.
The guy told it like it was. It was a PR stunt and nothing more. His submarine was rigid and stood zero chance of navigating the intricate cave system, of which the caver was an expert. Elon didn't like his sub (and him by extension) being ridiculed, so he used his social media clout to make an unsubstantiated and nigh libelous claim that the guy was a pedophile.
Whatever Elon's retaliatory reasons are for his vindictiveness, a rational person can safely assume that those reasons are tied to his hollow soul and crêpe-paper-thin ego.
He was bullied as a child, he probably never got over it and the power has gotten to his head.
I was bullied as a child, and I now work as a math teacher in Title I schools and engage in mutual aid. What's your point? Why are you making excuses for that cunt?
It's not an excuse.
Some people grow up and move past an experience, some people don't. Some hold onto that hatred and become the bully themselves.
How you handle situations makes you who you are, but it's up to you to do that.
It's not an excuse. [Provides an excuse.]
Elon doesn't need you as his Lemmy apologist. Get wrekt, son.
Yeah see there is a thing called disproportionate response.
If you've got a guy with 100 million followers talking shit about someone else and making wild accusations against them against another person who has practically no following at all, then the response is far too powerful for the issue at hand.
It was 100% a disproportionate response, I wasn't saying otherwise.
Well, good to know there's no way forward but your way.
I mean, the stormtroopers were largely either conscripted, or they were clones who were raised in it. Very few were actual mercenaries or people who had a choice to join or not. I still feel bad for them.
Stormtroopers is fair. What about maintenance staff?
What about prisoners?
Does Elon Musk profit off slave labor from prisoners?
Considering the mining industries for many of the rare earth metals needed? Yeah he does.
Plus there's the whole apartheid emerald slave mine thing, which is how daddy made the money he got to play with.
I don't think any of those people are being relocated to Texas.
Lucky for them, eh?
I'm curious, is it reasonable to blame employees for their employers actions like this? I mean to a certain extent perhaps, depending on your position in the company (like if you are part of upper management then you are more responsible obviously).
Many people are just trying to get by and getting jobs is not easy. Is it okay to blame a person for working somewhere if they don't have much other choice? Capitalism kinda forces you to work within the system like this.
they built another deathstar right? the first one was completed and fully operational before the rebels destroyed it and the second one was still being built when it was blown up
the first death star was manned by the imperial army only people on board were stormtroopers dignitaries imperials so when they blew it up no problem evil punished
the second time around it was not even done being built yet was still under construction job of that magnitude would require a hell of lot more manpower than the imperial army had to offer
bet they brought in independent contractors in on that thing plumbers aluminum siders roofers
in order to get built quickly and quietly they would hire anyone to do the job you think the average stormtrooper knows how to install a toilet main
all they know is killing in white uniforms
all those innocent contractors brought in to do job are killed casualties of a war they had nothing to do with
alright look you're roofer some juicy government comes your way you got a wife the two kids in suburbia
this is a government contract with all sort of benefits and along come these left wing militants and blast everything in a three mile radius with their lasers
they did not ask for that they had no personal politics they were just trying to scrape out a living
"Innocent contractors"
Wtf 🤮
In my book it doesn't matter if you are building or operating the gas chambers.
I think Andor settled this fairly definitively.
I'm a little surprised that this comment has gotten so many upvotes.
Would you apply this same logic to the real world? For example, imagine if a manufacturing facility for Lockheed Martin or General Dynamics was bombed and thousands of working class Americans died. These people are building bombs that are being used in an ongoing genocide.
Would you consider this a heinous terrorist act, or a noble strike in the fight for freedom?
Noble strike.
Death to american hegemony.
what about the restaurants that feed those workers? or the farmers that grow the crops? or the worker's families
Since you are maliciously leading it in this direction I will intentionally skip to the end.
We should kill every human because we share DNA.
Happy ?
Especially when the job market contracted with all the IT company layoffs, some people may be stuck in jobs they hate because opportunities are few and they'd rather not be homeless or have their kids not have food and so on.
I don't. Look, we already had this discussion years ago. You don't feel bad for the stormtrooper, or their families when you blow up the deathstar. They knew what they were getting into.
But they didn't. The guy had me in the first half when he cried because Buzz Aldrin didn't like him. Elon wasn't always so obvious with his bullshit. There was a time when he looked minted as a purveyor of a bright future - the mask slipped.
The mask has been off for at least 8 years.
No sympathy for anyone who still stans that phony.
When did he call that rescuer a "pedo"? Because that's when I changed my mind on him forever.
Edit: It was June 2018.
Then he fired his PR team not long after that. He pushed out all the people getting paid to help him not look like an idiot.
Musk should likely have all his storage media searched, just randomly accusing people of things like pedophilia for no reason is often projection, "don't look at me, I clearly can't be one as I'm the most vocal about being against them, look over here instead" or whatever
What Elon did was terrible, but it wasn't "for no reason"
The dude attacked him in the media, and Elon is petty and vindictive.
Was the harshness of Elon's response representative of the attack? Absolutely not. But it wasn't nothing.
The guy told it like it was. It was a PR stunt and nothing more. His submarine was rigid and stood zero chance of navigating the intricate cave system, of which the caver was an expert. Elon didn't like his sub (and him by extension) being ridiculed, so he used his social media clout to make an unsubstantiated and nigh libelous claim that the guy was a pedophile.
Whatever Elon's retaliatory reasons are for his vindictiveness, a rational person can safely assume that those reasons are tied to his hollow soul and crêpe-paper-thin ego.
He was bullied as a child, he probably never got over it and the power has gotten to his head.
I was bullied as a child, and I now work as a math teacher in Title I schools and engage in mutual aid. What's your point? Why are you making excuses for that cunt?
It's not an excuse.
Some people grow up and move past an experience, some people don't. Some hold onto that hatred and become the bully themselves.
How you handle situations makes you who you are, but it's up to you to do that.
Elon doesn't need you as his Lemmy apologist. Get wrekt, son.
Yeah see there is a thing called disproportionate response.
If you've got a guy with 100 million followers talking shit about someone else and making wild accusations against them against another person who has practically no following at all, then the response is far too powerful for the issue at hand.
It was 100% a disproportionate response, I wasn't saying otherwise.
Well, good to know there's no way forward but your way.
I mean, the stormtroopers were largely either conscripted, or they were clones who were raised in it. Very few were actual mercenaries or people who had a choice to join or not. I still feel bad for them.
Stormtroopers is fair. What about maintenance staff?
What about prisoners?
Does Elon Musk profit off slave labor from prisoners?
Considering the mining industries for many of the rare earth metals needed? Yeah he does.
Plus there's the whole apartheid emerald slave mine thing, which is how daddy made the money he got to play with.
I don't think any of those people are being relocated to Texas.
Lucky for them, eh?
I'm curious, is it reasonable to blame employees for their employers actions like this? I mean to a certain extent perhaps, depending on your position in the company (like if you are part of upper management then you are more responsible obviously).
Many people are just trying to get by and getting jobs is not easy. Is it okay to blame a person for working somewhere if they don't have much other choice? Capitalism kinda forces you to work within the system like this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1z6SFL5fCCg
"Innocent contractors"
Wtf 🤮
In my book it doesn't matter if you are building or operating the gas chambers.
I think Andor settled this fairly definitively.
I'm a little surprised that this comment has gotten so many upvotes.
Would you apply this same logic to the real world? For example, imagine if a manufacturing facility for Lockheed Martin or General Dynamics was bombed and thousands of working class Americans died. These people are building bombs that are being used in an ongoing genocide.
Would you consider this a heinous terrorist act, or a noble strike in the fight for freedom?
Noble strike.
Death to american hegemony.
what about the restaurants that feed those workers? or the farmers that grow the crops? or the worker's families
Since you are maliciously leading it in this direction I will intentionally skip to the end.
We should kill every human because we share DNA.
Happy ?
Especially when the job market contracted with all the IT company layoffs, some people may be stuck in jobs they hate because opportunities are few and they'd rather not be homeless or have their kids not have food and so on.