People care too much about which app you use. At the end of the day, as long as you're happy with sync it shouldn't matter
I agree, just wish they would stop mentioning how their app is “just so great and only $20 to get no ads” in every single thread and every other post on every instance
My comment to that is in every single thread and every other post on every other instance someone is saying how sync is ad filled and tracker heavy. So let's just all agree to never talk about apps, ever.
I wasn't a Sync user on Reddit, but Relay didn't make it over to Lemmy. Sync has some of the most non-intrusive ads I've ever seen, and that's coming from someone who is extremely anti-ads. They're very different from the actual posts and super easy to just scroll past. It's also very clearly made by someone who is great with UI/UX.
Are "they" in the room with us right now?
what happens when you say sync in the mirror 3 times
The water turns on.
Oh man, Sync is just so great and only $20 to get no ads you should give it a try!
The only comments I personally see are complaining about the price. Most people just use it. I subscribed instantly and knew I would before the price was revealed. I'm only saying it because it's on topic now, but tend not to get into the discussion because in the end it's up to the individual whether or not the cost makes the app worth using.
I use Sync because it was my favorite client for reddit but I'm definitely gonna hold out on paying until there is a sale or something. My usage of Lemmy is not that high at the moment.
And I would never say that anyone should pay for something unless they feel it to be worth the price. Just like I wouldn't tell someone not to pay for it because I think the price is too high for me.
I've used Sync for as many years as I was on reddit. I paid almost nothing for the app back then compared to the amount of time I've spent on it. I feel like the whole discussion on price is meaningless, really. Some people aren't gonna like it, some aren't going to care.
I also see comments concerning their privacy policy. Which is fair.
Hey, I get that. A lot of people over here are very privacy conscious and I'm not against it at all. The dev just hasn't ever given me a reason to distrust them in all the years I've used the app. There's been a built up trust, so to speak.
The control of private data is important and when I'm told that the collection stops if I have the ad free version I believe it.
But that's more in response to people saying it cost over 100$ to remove ads and it has trackers.
The ultra life time cost 100$, it stops the ads and also comes with some extra features that isn't needed to enjoy sync.
For 20$ the ads will stop and the trackers will be disabled.
Why would you need to pay $20 to access free content? Devs don't pay any creator who makes you scroll Lemmy. They are useless and sell you air.
You don't need to do anything, just keep on using the FOSS apps. It's all good. It's all about having choice.
The content isn't really "free" the people running the servers need to be paid also. If nobody would donate or they don't use any other form of getting funds, the servers wouldn't last.
Sync just provides a way to get to content in a nice polished way, at least that's how experience it. I could watch ads but I paid for a more better experience.
Both need to make money to eat and keep things running.
When you take a taxi to see a movie, nobody thinks that the taxi driver shouldn't be paid.
If someone sell an air purifier, would you berate them for selling access to free air? Of course not, you can still access free air without it. The air purifier just make the free air feel nicer, just like sync making browsing free Lemmy contents feel nicer.
This feels a bit more like setting up a ticket booth outside a public library, and offering a half-assed tour where the guide just reads the signs to you
I'm going to roll my eyes any time someone says they can't use the library without it, but you do you. If it keeps y'all reading, then that's fine.
It's more like selling seat cushions when the library only has folding chairs.
Everyone can still go into the library. If you have the means and desire, buy a seat cushion. If not, the books are still there for everyone.
Why would they pay 20$? Because even if sync is used to access a free service it is a product someone spent their time to make, and is optional. If people want to pay to use the app without ads because they think it's made better than the others (ignoring the ad and Google tracking on free version it IS one of if not the best app experience for Lemmy) they will. The Lemmy experience on sync is 100% better than on Jerboa for me, and I work hard running my own business so I'm not poor so I already forgot about that 20$ and I'm enjoying lemmy MORE than I was before
It's really simple you guys are just grouches.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I don't care what client y'all use as long as people are here and not on reddit
Most people don't care about what client others are using. It's more the evangelizing of what how $20 isn't that big a deal that is starting to get annoying. If it was just Sync came out and people who liked it used it then it'd be fine, but then some of you guys are bit too fanatical that you'd go into other communities like liftoff to start arguing about Sync and how $20 is worth paying and the app deserves it and so on, and then trashing the Foss alternatives. Yes we get it you love Sync and is the best app ever, but try and tone it down a bit. It's more the userbase that is hurting the image right now than anything.
I'm not making poats about it I'm simply replying to comments other people are making about it first. Lol
I don't care about your background, but since you've mentioned it, you could've dropped $20 to lemmy.ml instead of cashing out for an app that creates problems unless you pay for it, since you throw money around that easy. They need it more than sync devs. This conversation couldn't have happened if our instances weren't properly hosted, but they are still availiable on any app you choose.
How do you know I haven't donated to my Lemmy instance?
And it's not really throwing money around if it's something I use daily and get value from, is it? Im not being irresponsible lol my bills are paid my savings grows every week even when I buy myself superficial things, so it's not really an issue, also why the fuck should you care how I spend my money lmao
By your 'gotcha' comeback, silly. Why do you throw at me how happy and financially savvy you are? Did someone hurt you? Why instead of defending your point you prove you are so well-off? It sounds stupid and miserable. I'm nobody on the internet, Idfc about your bills.
And I don't care about you personally, but you and others like you enable sync to thrive. It shall crumble. I lowkey like that sync devs milked some money from ya, but it should've happened in a more trad fashion, like MML, cryptoscam or something obvious. It could've made easier laughing at you.
You're the one coming off as hurt by complaining about something that doesn't effect you. You're argument was that 20$ is too much and I'm just explaining that 20$ to you might not hold same weight as 20$ to someone else. Sorry it's too expensive for you and sorry you are so upset about an app you don't use.
And yes it feels good to be able to spend 20$ on something you like and and support and never think about that 20$ again. I used sync for reddit for 11 years, daily. I'm using sync for Lemmy daily for hopefully longer.
Keep complaining bub it's gonna CHANGE THE WORLD.
Anyway I'm done with this interaction because it's not going to go any further than it already has. Bye, broke ass.
Oh wait you're the same guy that posted This hahahaha man you're not worth my time.
You think people are useless and un-needed here simply because of an app they use? you say you want to bully people over an app they use
Is your brain functioning properly or are you just a child?
Absolute idiocy
What are you mumbling, lol. Your reply isn't even an answer, but some hallucination. Go on, flex your imaginary rich-ness where people applaud you for that. $20 is nothing for me too, but I have some brains to invest it elsewhere. Sync sucks, prove me wrong, lol. Or pay me to change my opinion, lol.
Yes, I think that. Like I wrote of Threadiverse taking over other instances before with their userbase if they get federated (maybe not on that acc). This place needs to be kept safe and sound. 10mil of Instagram users and Sync shills may actively damage it.
I'll pay you to suck deez nutz.
How much tho? And is it for a single nut or both of them?
Jerboa is free for no ads and doesn't have a complicated privacy policy.
And it's not as good of a user experience as sync for Lemmy. I've been using jerboa for couple months now and sync smokes it so far. If people want to pay 20$ for a better user experience they will its not complicated. Jerboa feels like an Android app from 2010.
Unless it should? And we shall bully them? They should feel unneeded there?
They put ads and ask for cash while showing other people's free resources they put their mind to create? While no other client do so? And plenty of people\bots enable them? And call that a pointless argument on fediverse? Lmao.
Their spines should be broken asap, and everything around Lemmy should stay free or donation-based. If it is not, next you see are paywalled apps and instances. No one would benefit from a trend of purchaseable clients but these devs, while they don't bring content, or anything to the table. Their app is useless without others' work, and yet they charge you 20-100 bucks for being a middleman between you and it. It's senseless.
Fuck sync devs. Fuck sync shills. Fuck them all.
They bring something to the table: the app. It's a lot of work to build an app, and takes a lot of time and knowledge. It's perfectly okay to monetize your work. If you don't like it, why not build one yourself? The servers are there, and they are free. So is the documentation, and the protocols.
Their invasive tactics are concerning. If we'd eat that, other devs may follow. It may become the new reality.
Servers aren't free. Donating to your instance is better than paying forban add-free Sync experience. This way you also help other users by making downtime even less noticeable.
Nothing is free. If you value the app and don't like ads, pay for it. If not, use a free one or build one yourself. If you value the service a server is providing, pay for it. Why would you want to artificially restrict our possibilities? it's not like we can only choose one or the other.
It may snowball into other apps wanting it too? The first to take this step out of blue is asking to face some resistance. It's natural. I'm surprised no one else is against them.
So? Someone who can't afford to build an app for free won't do it if there is no demand for it. People building free open source apps will still do it. I really don't get the problem...
Other free services becoming for-profits and add-infested? Sync can set a trend others may follow. As they are first to do so, I'm surprised no one argues thst, as they may set up a degradation of every others' experience with this platform.
So is your argument that devs creating free apps are only doing so because they haven't realized they could be charging money for it? Because if so, you live in another world than the rest of us, friend.
They losing sleep over a Lemmy app of course they are not okay.
Someone should've brought it. It's weird we kinda accepted it once it happened for no reason.
No sleep lost, lmao, just some corporate time.
You know you can still get your points across without throwing some insults and vitriol, right? You'll just unnecessarily make people mad and unwilling to listen to your arguments, and make Lemmy as a whole slightly more toxic place in doing so.
Thanks for making Lemmy feel like home, it wouldn't without you!
The reality is it's a free world, regardless of what morality you put on things there are going to be things that happen that you don't like. That's life.
Like it or not Lemmy has had explosive growth because of apps like Sync. Because of them being killed off by Reddit. If it weren't for the drama of Reddit doing that, I and millions of other users wouldn't be here right now as we'd still be on Reddit.
Even people who weren't using the 3rd party apps left Reddit because Reddit's actions left a bad taste in their mouths.
So, morality of one guy charging for his honest work in creating the paid or ad supported app aside, you should be thanking the apps including sync for helping drive so many users to Lemmy.
If you yourself don't want to use a paid app, then that's okay! We're all allowed to respond or react to things how we want, but being incredibly divisive for something that a lot of people wanted and that really is inconsequential is almost universally frowned on.
Just let people do what they want and don't shoot them down for it. More options for browsing Lemmy = more Lemmings = more content.
Much love my dude! We may disagree on this but we agree on many many many more things I'm sure, just because we're on Lemmy instead of Reddit in the first place is proof of that! ✌️
Someone downvoted you for the first paragraph, I guess.
I don't think Sync impacted the reach of Lemmy just yet (it rolled out how many days before?) but it would, maybe. Especially for those who used it before.
I spat acid not because I'm pissed at people who use it or devs especially, but for not seeing any critique. It seems like an important turning point for Lemmy as a community. And no one bat an eye. I acted as a counterbalance. A mad one, and picked some low-stakes fights. It was funny.
People care too much about which app you use. At the end of the day, as long as you're happy with sync it shouldn't matter
I agree, just wish they would stop mentioning how their app is “just so great and only $20 to get no ads” in every single thread and every other post on every instance
My comment to that is in every single thread and every other post on every other instance someone is saying how sync is ad filled and tracker heavy. So let's just all agree to never talk about apps, ever.
I wasn't a Sync user on Reddit, but Relay didn't make it over to Lemmy. Sync has some of the most non-intrusive ads I've ever seen, and that's coming from someone who is extremely anti-ads. They're very different from the actual posts and super easy to just scroll past. It's also very clearly made by someone who is great with UI/UX.
Are "they" in the room with us right now?
what happens when you say sync in the mirror 3 times
The water turns on.
Oh man, Sync is just so great and only $20 to get no ads you should give it a try!
Play store link: Sync for Lemmy
The only comments I personally see are complaining about the price. Most people just use it. I subscribed instantly and knew I would before the price was revealed. I'm only saying it because it's on topic now, but tend not to get into the discussion because in the end it's up to the individual whether or not the cost makes the app worth using.
I use Sync because it was my favorite client for reddit but I'm definitely gonna hold out on paying until there is a sale or something. My usage of Lemmy is not that high at the moment.
And I would never say that anyone should pay for something unless they feel it to be worth the price. Just like I wouldn't tell someone not to pay for it because I think the price is too high for me.
I've used Sync for as many years as I was on reddit. I paid almost nothing for the app back then compared to the amount of time I've spent on it. I feel like the whole discussion on price is meaningless, really. Some people aren't gonna like it, some aren't going to care.
I also see comments concerning their privacy policy. Which is fair.
Hey, I get that. A lot of people over here are very privacy conscious and I'm not against it at all. The dev just hasn't ever given me a reason to distrust them in all the years I've used the app. There's been a built up trust, so to speak.
The control of private data is important and when I'm told that the collection stops if I have the ad free version I believe it.
But that's more in response to people saying it cost over 100$ to remove ads and it has trackers.
The ultra life time cost 100$, it stops the ads and also comes with some extra features that isn't needed to enjoy sync.
For 20$ the ads will stop and the trackers will be disabled.
Why would you need to pay $20 to access free content? Devs don't pay any creator who makes you scroll Lemmy. They are useless and sell you air.
You don't need to do anything, just keep on using the FOSS apps. It's all good. It's all about having choice.
The content isn't really "free" the people running the servers need to be paid also. If nobody would donate or they don't use any other form of getting funds, the servers wouldn't last.
Sync just provides a way to get to content in a nice polished way, at least that's how experience it. I could watch ads but I paid for a more better experience.
Both need to make money to eat and keep things running.
When you take a taxi to see a movie, nobody thinks that the taxi driver shouldn't be paid.
If someone sell an air purifier, would you berate them for selling access to free air? Of course not, you can still access free air without it. The air purifier just make the free air feel nicer, just like sync making browsing free Lemmy contents feel nicer.
This feels a bit more like setting up a ticket booth outside a public library, and offering a half-assed tour where the guide just reads the signs to you
I'm going to roll my eyes any time someone says they can't use the library without it, but you do you. If it keeps y'all reading, then that's fine.
It's more like selling seat cushions when the library only has folding chairs.
Everyone can still go into the library. If you have the means and desire, buy a seat cushion. If not, the books are still there for everyone.
Why would they pay 20$? Because even if sync is used to access a free service it is a product someone spent their time to make, and is optional. If people want to pay to use the app without ads because they think it's made better than the others (ignoring the ad and Google tracking on free version it IS one of if not the best app experience for Lemmy) they will. The Lemmy experience on sync is 100% better than on Jerboa for me, and I work hard running my own business so I'm not poor so I already forgot about that 20$ and I'm enjoying lemmy MORE than I was before
It's really simple you guys are just grouches.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I don't care what client y'all use as long as people are here and not on reddit
Most people don't care about what client others are using. It's more the evangelizing of what how $20 isn't that big a deal that is starting to get annoying. If it was just Sync came out and people who liked it used it then it'd be fine, but then some of you guys are bit too fanatical that you'd go into other communities like liftoff to start arguing about Sync and how $20 is worth paying and the app deserves it and so on, and then trashing the Foss alternatives. Yes we get it you love Sync and is the best app ever, but try and tone it down a bit. It's more the userbase that is hurting the image right now than anything.
I'm not making poats about it I'm simply replying to comments other people are making about it first. Lol
I don't care about your background, but since you've mentioned it, you could've dropped $20 to lemmy.ml instead of cashing out for an app that creates problems unless you pay for it, since you throw money around that easy. They need it more than sync devs. This conversation couldn't have happened if our instances weren't properly hosted, but they are still availiable on any app you choose.
How do you know I haven't donated to my Lemmy instance?
And it's not really throwing money around if it's something I use daily and get value from, is it? Im not being irresponsible lol my bills are paid my savings grows every week even when I buy myself superficial things, so it's not really an issue, also why the fuck should you care how I spend my money lmao
By your 'gotcha' comeback, silly. Why do you throw at me how happy and financially savvy you are? Did someone hurt you? Why instead of defending your point you prove you are so well-off? It sounds stupid and miserable. I'm nobody on the internet, Idfc about your bills.
And I don't care about you personally, but you and others like you enable sync to thrive. It shall crumble. I lowkey like that sync devs milked some money from ya, but it should've happened in a more trad fashion, like MML, cryptoscam or something obvious. It could've made easier laughing at you.
You're the one coming off as hurt by complaining about something that doesn't effect you. You're argument was that 20$ is too much and I'm just explaining that 20$ to you might not hold same weight as 20$ to someone else. Sorry it's too expensive for you and sorry you are so upset about an app you don't use.
And yes it feels good to be able to spend 20$ on something you like and and support and never think about that 20$ again. I used sync for reddit for 11 years, daily. I'm using sync for Lemmy daily for hopefully longer.
Keep complaining bub it's gonna CHANGE THE WORLD.
Anyway I'm done with this interaction because it's not going to go any further than it already has. Bye, broke ass.
Oh wait you're the same guy that posted This hahahaha man you're not worth my time.
You think people are useless and un-needed here simply because of an app they use? you say you want to bully people over an app they use
Is your brain functioning properly or are you just a child?
Absolute idiocy
What are you mumbling, lol. Your reply isn't even an answer, but some hallucination. Go on, flex your imaginary rich-ness where people applaud you for that. $20 is nothing for me too, but I have some brains to invest it elsewhere. Sync sucks, prove me wrong, lol. Or pay me to change my opinion, lol.
Yes, I think that. Like I wrote of Threadiverse taking over other instances before with their userbase if they get federated (maybe not on that acc). This place needs to be kept safe and sound. 10mil of Instagram users and Sync shills may actively damage it.
I'll pay you to suck deez nutz.
How much tho? And is it for a single nut or both of them?
Jerboa is free for no ads and doesn't have a complicated privacy policy.
And it's not as good of a user experience as sync for Lemmy. I've been using jerboa for couple months now and sync smokes it so far. If people want to pay 20$ for a better user experience they will its not complicated. Jerboa feels like an Android app from 2010.
Unless it should? And we shall bully them? They should feel unneeded there?
They put ads and ask for cash while showing other people's free resources they put their mind to create? While no other client do so? And plenty of people\bots enable them? And call that a pointless argument on fediverse? Lmao.
Their spines should be broken asap, and everything around Lemmy should stay free or donation-based. If it is not, next you see are paywalled apps and instances. No one would benefit from a trend of purchaseable clients but these devs, while they don't bring content, or anything to the table. Their app is useless without others' work, and yet they charge you 20-100 bucks for being a middleman between you and it. It's senseless.
Fuck sync devs. Fuck sync shills. Fuck them all.
They bring something to the table: the app. It's a lot of work to build an app, and takes a lot of time and knowledge. It's perfectly okay to monetize your work. If you don't like it, why not build one yourself? The servers are there, and they are free. So is the documentation, and the protocols.
Their invasive tactics are concerning. If we'd eat that, other devs may follow. It may become the new reality.
Servers aren't free. Donating to your instance is better than paying forban add-free Sync experience. This way you also help other users by making downtime even less noticeable.
Nothing is free. If you value the app and don't like ads, pay for it. If not, use a free one or build one yourself. If you value the service a server is providing, pay for it. Why would you want to artificially restrict our possibilities? it's not like we can only choose one or the other.
It may snowball into other apps wanting it too? The first to take this step out of blue is asking to face some resistance. It's natural. I'm surprised no one else is against them.
So? Someone who can't afford to build an app for free won't do it if there is no demand for it. People building free open source apps will still do it. I really don't get the problem...
Other free services becoming for-profits and add-infested? Sync can set a trend others may follow. As they are first to do so, I'm surprised no one argues thst, as they may set up a degradation of every others' experience with this platform.
So is your argument that devs creating free apps are only doing so because they haven't realized they could be charging money for it? Because if so, you live in another world than the rest of us, friend.
Are you OK?
They losing sleep over a Lemmy app of course they are not okay.
Someone should've brought it. It's weird we kinda accepted it once it happened for no reason.
No sleep lost, lmao, just some corporate time.
You know you can still get your points across without throwing some insults and vitriol, right? You'll just unnecessarily make people mad and unwilling to listen to your arguments, and make Lemmy as a whole slightly more toxic place in doing so.
Thanks for making Lemmy feel like home, it wouldn't without you!
The reality is it's a free world, regardless of what morality you put on things there are going to be things that happen that you don't like. That's life.
Like it or not Lemmy has had explosive growth because of apps like Sync. Because of them being killed off by Reddit. If it weren't for the drama of Reddit doing that, I and millions of other users wouldn't be here right now as we'd still be on Reddit.
Even people who weren't using the 3rd party apps left Reddit because Reddit's actions left a bad taste in their mouths.
So, morality of one guy charging for his honest work in creating the paid or ad supported app aside, you should be thanking the apps including sync for helping drive so many users to Lemmy.
If you yourself don't want to use a paid app, then that's okay! We're all allowed to respond or react to things how we want, but being incredibly divisive for something that a lot of people wanted and that really is inconsequential is almost universally frowned on.
Just let people do what they want and don't shoot them down for it. More options for browsing Lemmy = more Lemmings = more content.
Much love my dude! We may disagree on this but we agree on many many many more things I'm sure, just because we're on Lemmy instead of Reddit in the first place is proof of that! ✌️
Someone downvoted you for the first paragraph, I guess.
I don't think Sync impacted the reach of Lemmy just yet (it rolled out how many days before?) but it would, maybe. Especially for those who used it before.
I spat acid not because I'm pissed at people who use it or devs especially, but for not seeing any critique. It seems like an important turning point for Lemmy as a community. And no one bat an eye. I acted as a counterbalance. A mad one, and picked some low-stakes fights. It was funny.
Have a nice day, dude\ss.
Lol