GUILTY ON 34 COUNTS

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Live updates: Donald Trump found guilty on all counts in N.Y. hush money trial
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You crooked motherfucker

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Sentencing is on July 11th

The Republican National Convention is July 15th

Honestly, it scares me. That'd be great timing for them to go full Beer Hall Putsch mode.

"and then they said 'lock her up!'" - hillary clinton having a martini and laughing somewhere, probably

Yeah... There's a lot of people complaining about politicizing the legal system tonight, and those same people said nothing when Trump's most popular campaign promise was to put his political rival in jail.

I was shocked to find out that all his crimes apparently don't disqualify him from running for/being president again. Like what?

You would think there would be like... some laws or something.

I heard that it's a mechanism to prevent the ruling president from just locking up every competitor and win the next election by default.

I think that it’s actually a good thing. If a criminal record disqualified you, it could be easy to cook up bogus charges against a political opponent just to kick them off the ballot. We also have along history in the USA of black folks getting charged with crimes at a disproportionately high rate.

I mean it should disqualify him, for all intents and purposes, if we actually had a media that did its job and a non-corrupt Republican Party though.

Why shocked? This is America we’re talking about. I’d be shocked if he actually gets punished at all.

Here in Australia, really looking forward to this

I sincerely hope he spends the next month until sentencing shitting bricks stressed out.

He's done so much awful shit that nobody remembers the entirety of it from trans people, to Chinese people (China flu) and even the adoption of renewables.

He's fucked over everyone including many of his own employees.

It was a step back 40 years. Now with him gone, assholes won't be emboldened as much

As a non-american, is this really a big deal? It doesn't disqualify him from going for presidency and it's possible that he doesn't serve any time at all due to his old age and no criminal record, as the article suggests.

’s possible that he doesn’t serve any time

The things you mention. And more importantly the fact that crimes like this rarely involve jail on a first offence.

I'm hoping for 1 year in jail

The un popular note here is that it's super uncommon for them to give prison to a first time convicted in a class E crime that this falls under.

So the likelihood of prison is low, and if it does happen it will be against the norm.

Maybe it's my doomerism at play, but even one year house arrest I'd be OK with. Keep him in NY in his Trump Tower penthouse. Don't let him go out to campaign.

Obviously jail would be better. I just don't think fines alone are going to cut it. He's not going to pay them.

We gotta break the seal. It has to be jail. He tried to kill the vice president, he stole classified documents and got dozens of CIA assets killed, he explicitly sides with the enemies of the US and against the American people. He wants to shoot protestors and have the military seize the voting machines.

I understand the reluctance. This particular thing, as weird as it is, wasn't actually all that bad. But you gotta break the seal. It's like when you're leaving an abusive partner; the idea of really pulling the trigger is terrifying, because what's gonna happen? And there's no going back. But we have to.

🤖 I'm a bot that provides automatic summaries for articles: ::: spoiler Click here to see the summary Donald Trump has been convicted on all 34 counts of falsifying business records.

Trump, who was indicted in connection with a hush money payment made to an adult-film actress ahead of the 2016 presidential election, is the first former president convicted of a crime.


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