Oohh nice, even tho i'm not really the right person for such a game.
I keep losing track and starting over, then realizing i want it to look cooler...start rebuilding and lose interest and drop the game fir quite a time until i find out i lost track and start the cycle over again.
Everything except the losing interest part is what people love about factory games. So while they have your interest, realize that you are absolutely playing them "correctly". But if you don't like iterating your designs (not everyone does, and that's OK), then these are probably not the right genre for you.
I've been sucked into Factorio quite thoroughly, until the automation, optimization and debugging started feeling too much like what I do at work. I mean, I enjoy the process (which is why I got this work in the first place), but doing it in my free time as well is a bit much
Check out Shapez 2. The first game was pretty basic but I really enjoy S2 as a Factorio lite. It's much much less complex, but there's still plenty of room to build crazy contraptions as you unlock more stuff to build with. Most major upgrades will make you want to refactor your whole base, but after you finish delivering a certain type of shape you no longer need to make more (except sometimes as components for new shapes). So I'll pretty regularly knock out like half my factory and make a new and improved assembly line for the new shape I need to deliver.
It's good, give it a look. I get quite sucked into it and it doesn't have as much mental overhead as Factorio does. There's also no biters, which makes it a much more relaxing factory game.
I've enjoyed shapez 1 a lot, back when it was shapez.io. Definitely giving the sequel a try.
Played shapes2 and it is really fun but for me it feels heavier. When i play some Factorio mods there are times when it gets overwhelming and shapes have the same problem for me. Takes a couple of days or weeks to recover.
Also the rebuild everything thing in shapes 2 is not really true. When you get a few hours into the game the stuff you deliver is stuff you want to deliver forever to gain operator levels. The secondary stuff that isn't forever stuff is what makes me give up. Fatigue of rebuild or something... Good thing we are all different :)
Yeah, I have to take breaks sometimes and be in the right mood. I find that I like to play more when I'm going through a boring patch at work and I need something mentally stimulating.
I'm not the type of guy for these games at all, but satisfactory is super fun to me. Even if i suck and my factories look like an absolute nightmare. The fun thing about satisfactory is that you can brute force so much bullshit until it all goes more and more to shit.
Damn shame this comment section turned into an EOS battleground. This game is worth a hell of a lot more than that.
Have I ever made it further than tier 4? No. Will I start new playthroughs countless more times in an effort to? Hell yes.
I always get to the part with nuclear power, then I take a look at the space elevator objective recipes, realise I need to multiply my factory size by about 20 and just nope out
As much as I love the game, and I will get into random hyper focus mode and will multiply the size of my factory by a large amount, the later tiers are much more accessible when playing with friends.
I don't think i ever made it to tier 4 either. My factory always collapses from the weight of my own incompetence. The funniest thing to me is to play as far as i get, stop and come back a month or two later and try to figure out what i did.
Nice, I happen to be on vacation this month. Should have lots of time to build the factory
Factory must keep running!
Remember, it’s not just fun. It’s contractually obligated fun fun fun!
I got this game for free a while back in a Reddit competition lol, might have to get back into it.
I'm waiting for the LGIO review to buy.
Pretty soon, he posted a screenshot on twitter recently.
I wonder if he got an advance copy?
That's pretty likely. I imagine his shenanigans take quite some time haha
No macOS 😑
If you want to game on your mac your best bet is dualbooting with linux
Well yeah, why develop for an actively hostile OS?
If it helps, you're not logged into EOS automatically anymore in 1.0. You have the option for direct IP connect, Steam, or EOS.
There are many new settings that you can apply to a session. Now you can play singleplayer with all the multiplayer capabilities disabled. You can now play exclusively using Steam to connect, or exclusively use Epic Online Services, as well as choose to have Crossplay between both platforms.
Not gonna trust devs who use it tho
What's the downside to it? It enables cross play.
The owner of it is a bad person 🤷♂️
Wait until you learn what engine they're using and who they pay royalties to.
Eh I know. But the engine itself isn't bad 🤷♂️
But their primary networking plugin is?
Yes, more than the engine. I'm not saying I love the engine tho.. Let's say it's below everything else 🤔
Now that's a hot take.
Trying to be the Adobe of game engines is fine, but their online service is the line in the sand?
Bruh I just said it's not the worst thing. The bareback launcher, Tim's small brain and EOS are much worse
That's your right and I support you but... If your standard is "I don't buy products that are made by bad people"... You're gonna have a tough time. No such thing as ethical capitalism and all that.
The problem is what they did and still doing🤷♂️ they could offer something better rather that trying to buy people with free games
Brother it's on other platforms... What's your complaint? It's a UE5 game 🧐
What’s your complaint? It’s a UE5 game
I'm not them, but I dislike Epic Online Servies, too. Last time I read the terms document, it granted permission for way too much data collection, and I'm not a fan of spyware.
You don't have to log in to Epic unless you want to play with Epic users.
That's not how EOS works.
I mean if you don't log in, at least the dedicated server only makes two calls to EOS. The SDK is in the game, sure, but if you're not logging in to Epic then I don't really see the threat. It seems like classic sinophobia to be totally blasé about any data Steam (or Coffee Stain) want to collect, but to avoid the entire product because Tencent might be able to associate your IP with the fact that you own the game.
The people behind OES
I dislike Sweeny et al more than most, but do you boycott all UE games?
The problem is not UE tho
They're both Epic, my guy -- do you just specifically dislike one of the engineers working on EOS or what?
I said the problem is not UE, I didn't say i love it, did I? I only said the engine is not the problem if it's not infested with EOS. Games that force it now or retroactively add it are the big problem, EOS and Tim is the second problem
But... Why? I don't understand why you would be okay with using a company's engine but not their online services. Is it a privacy issue? You don't even have to log in to Epic unless you want cross platform play.
I don't use it nor I'm okay using it. You're forced to use their launcher and have an account with them. I wouldn't really mind an account to use the engine (if I was good at making games! But that's another problem 🤷♂️) but why is it tied to okay I was gonna make an argument at why is the engine tied to a launcher but steam is the same (I knew but checked to be sure) not that I care much in both cases tho.
The problem is I don't trust epic and their EOS since they have a bad reputation for what they do and did.
You don't have to install the launcher to play games that use EOS. You don't have to make an account unless you want to log into Epic, which is not necessary to play the game (unless of course you bought it on the epic store).
The only arguably bad thing about EOS' inclusion is that it can collect some telemetry about you, which Epic currently claims to be pretty sparse.
Yes, I know but the problem is that it gets installed with the game even if you don't want it, it's used even with single player games and deleting it, the game refuses to launch. Why single player games need it? No, the "for Telemetry purposes" is not a valid answer. I don't want it on my system, period. We can argue whether it's the dev or not since I'm sure (assumption since I'm not a dev nor I know one) it's not the dev that decides to add it. Damn, I wish I could remember which game didn't work with eos dll removed (happened months ago). Ooh Apex Legends (good or not, don't care about it) added eos mandatory, if you block your pc to phoning home (hosts file) to epic, it refuses to launch. WHY?!
If Satisfactory can run in single player (don't care about multi nor I have friends lol) without the eos dll and updates don't add it back, maybe I'll think about it but I can't test it since I don't own the game.
I mean, it's there so the game can utilize Epic's online services, like achievements. Doing so requires the use of the EOS SDK. So it's not like they can just include a check box to disable the functionality; that would require an entirely separate release of the game. It's already not doing anything besides making sure the EOS server exists unless you're engaging with Epic systems. At least that's the case for dedicated servers, but I would assume that it's the same if you only select Steam multiplayer (or single player mode).
Oohh nice, even tho i'm not really the right person for such a game.
I keep losing track and starting over, then realizing i want it to look cooler...start rebuilding and lose interest and drop the game fir quite a time until i find out i lost track and start the cycle over again.
Everything except the losing interest part is what people love about factory games. So while they have your interest, realize that you are absolutely playing them "correctly". But if you don't like iterating your designs (not everyone does, and that's OK), then these are probably not the right genre for you.
I've been sucked into Factorio quite thoroughly, until the automation, optimization and debugging started feeling too much like what I do at work. I mean, I enjoy the process (which is why I got this work in the first place), but doing it in my free time as well is a bit much
Check out Shapez 2. The first game was pretty basic but I really enjoy S2 as a Factorio lite. It's much much less complex, but there's still plenty of room to build crazy contraptions as you unlock more stuff to build with. Most major upgrades will make you want to refactor your whole base, but after you finish delivering a certain type of shape you no longer need to make more (except sometimes as components for new shapes). So I'll pretty regularly knock out like half my factory and make a new and improved assembly line for the new shape I need to deliver.
It's good, give it a look. I get quite sucked into it and it doesn't have as much mental overhead as Factorio does. There's also no biters, which makes it a much more relaxing factory game.
I've enjoyed shapez 1 a lot, back when it was shapez.io. Definitely giving the sequel a try.
Played shapes2 and it is really fun but for me it feels heavier. When i play some Factorio mods there are times when it gets overwhelming and shapes have the same problem for me. Takes a couple of days or weeks to recover.
Also the rebuild everything thing in shapes 2 is not really true. When you get a few hours into the game the stuff you deliver is stuff you want to deliver forever to gain operator levels. The secondary stuff that isn't forever stuff is what makes me give up. Fatigue of rebuild or something... Good thing we are all different :)
Yeah, I have to take breaks sometimes and be in the right mood. I find that I like to play more when I'm going through a boring patch at work and I need something mentally stimulating.
I'm not the type of guy for these games at all, but satisfactory is super fun to me. Even if i suck and my factories look like an absolute nightmare. The fun thing about satisfactory is that you can brute force so much bullshit until it all goes more and more to shit.
Damn shame this comment section turned into an EOS battleground. This game is worth a hell of a lot more than that.
Have I ever made it further than tier 4? No. Will I start new playthroughs countless more times in an effort to? Hell yes.
I always get to the part with nuclear power, then I take a look at the space elevator objective recipes, realise I need to multiply my factory size by about 20 and just nope out
As much as I love the game, and I will get into random hyper focus mode and will multiply the size of my factory by a large amount, the later tiers are much more accessible when playing with friends.
I don't think i ever made it to tier 4 either. My factory always collapses from the weight of my own incompetence. The funniest thing to me is to play as far as i get, stop and come back a month or two later and try to figure out what i did.
Nice, I happen to be on vacation this month. Should have lots of time to build the factory
Factory must keep running!
Remember, it’s not just fun. It’s contractually obligated fun fun fun!
I got this game for free a while back in a Reddit competition lol, might have to get back into it.
I'm waiting for the LGIO review to buy.
Pretty soon, he posted a screenshot on twitter recently.
I wonder if he got an advance copy?
That's pretty likely. I imagine his shenanigans take quite some time haha
No macOS 😑
If you want to game on your mac your best bet is dualbooting with linux
Well yeah, why develop for an actively hostile OS?
Remove EOS and I'm gonna buy it
If it helps, you're not logged into EOS automatically anymore in 1.0. You have the option for direct IP connect, Steam, or EOS.
Not gonna trust devs who use it tho
What's the downside to it? It enables cross play.
The owner of it is a bad person 🤷♂️
Wait until you learn what engine they're using and who they pay royalties to.
Eh I know. But the engine itself isn't bad 🤷♂️
But their primary networking plugin is?
Yes, more than the engine. I'm not saying I love the engine tho.. Let's say it's below everything else 🤔
Now that's a hot take.
Trying to be the Adobe of game engines is fine, but their online service is the line in the sand?
Bruh I just said it's not the worst thing. The bareback launcher, Tim's small brain and EOS are much worse
That's your right and I support you but... If your standard is "I don't buy products that are made by bad people"... You're gonna have a tough time. No such thing as ethical capitalism and all that.
The problem is what they did and still doing🤷♂️ they could offer something better rather that trying to buy people with free games
Brother it's on other platforms... What's your complaint? It's a UE5 game 🧐
I'm not them, but I dislike Epic Online Servies, too. Last time I read the terms document, it granted permission for way too much data collection, and I'm not a fan of spyware.
You don't have to log in to Epic unless you want to play with Epic users.
That's not how EOS works.
I mean if you don't log in, at least the dedicated server only makes two calls to EOS. The SDK is in the game, sure, but if you're not logging in to Epic then I don't really see the threat. It seems like classic sinophobia to be totally blasé about any data Steam (or Coffee Stain) want to collect, but to avoid the entire product because Tencent might be able to associate your IP with the fact that you own the game.
The people behind OES
I dislike Sweeny et al more than most, but do you boycott all UE games?
The problem is not UE tho
They're both Epic, my guy -- do you just specifically dislike one of the engineers working on EOS or what?
I said the problem is not UE, I didn't say i love it, did I? I only said the engine is not the problem if it's not infested with EOS. Games that force it now or retroactively add it are the big problem, EOS and Tim is the second problem
But... Why? I don't understand why you would be okay with using a company's engine but not their online services. Is it a privacy issue? You don't even have to log in to Epic unless you want cross platform play.
I don't use it nor I'm okay using it.
You're forced to use their launcher and have an account with them. I wouldn't really mind an account to use the engine (if I was good at making games! But that's another problem 🤷♂️) but why is it tied tookay I was gonna make an argument at why is the engine tied to a launcher but steam is the same (I knew but checked to be sure) not that I care much in both cases tho.The problem is I don't trust epic and their EOS since they have a bad reputation for what they do and did.
You don't have to install the launcher to play games that use EOS. You don't have to make an account unless you want to log into Epic, which is not necessary to play the game (unless of course you bought it on the epic store).
The only arguably bad thing about EOS' inclusion is that it can collect some telemetry about you, which Epic currently claims to be pretty sparse.
Yes, I know but the problem is that it gets installed with the game even if you don't want it, it's used even with single player games and deleting it, the game refuses to launch. Why single player games need it? No, the "for Telemetry purposes" is not a valid answer. I don't want it on my system, period. We can argue whether it's the dev or not since I'm sure (assumption since I'm not a dev nor I know one) it's not the dev that decides to add it. Damn, I wish I could remember which game didn't work with eos dll removed (happened months ago). Ooh Apex Legends (good or not, don't care about it) added eos mandatory, if you block your pc to phoning home (hosts file) to epic, it refuses to launch. WHY?!
If Satisfactory can run in single player (don't care about multi nor I have friends lol) without the eos dll and updates don't add it back, maybe I'll think about it but I can't test it since I don't own the game.
I mean, it's there so the game can utilize Epic's online services, like achievements. Doing so requires the use of the EOS SDK. So it's not like they can just include a check box to disable the functionality; that would require an entirely separate release of the game. It's already not doing anything besides making sure the EOS server exists unless you're engaging with Epic systems. At least that's the case for dedicated servers, but I would assume that it's the same if you only select Steam multiplayer (or single player mode).