Russia Is Using Tires To Protect Its Bombers From Aerial Attack

Ukraine@sopuli.xyz – 191 points – 10 months ago

Russia Is Using Tires To Protect Its Bombers From Aerial Attack

Recent satellite imagery reveals more details of the unique measures Russia has taken in hopes of protecting its long-range bombers against Ukrainian attacks. Sattelites images reveal that Russia is placing tires on the upper surfaces of the aircraft in various patterns.

This is absolutely GOLD, Jerry!

GOLD!

“he thinks everything that’s round is funny”

So hear me out you guys, what if the tires didn't have air in the, but... milk?

I was really curious about the thought process here, but now I understand slightly more lol

A covering of tires could well be calculated to break up the infrared signature of these aircraft, to confuse cruise missiles using image matching for targeting. This technique is also frequently referred to as DSMAC (Digital Scene Matching Area Correlator) or ATR (Automated Target Recognition) when used in cruise missiles. As we have previously discussed, using DSMAC/ATR would provide land attack versions of Ukraine’s homegrown Neptune missiles with a significant advantage, making them largely immune to electronic warfare jamming. At the same time, their approach to the target would not involve any telltale radio-frequency emissions, thanks to the passive nature of the targeting.

Sounds like Ukraine needs to include some pictures of planes with tires on top in their training dataset.

Honestly I wonder if they could just train another, smaller model on widely-available aerial pictures of tires and develop a classical algorithm that steers towards things that look like a pile of tires on top of a plane shape. This is pretty shitty as adversarial patterns go.

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Ha ha Ukraine try and blow up our planes now bombs just bounce off checkmate nato

This is some third world country shit lmfao

Honestly that's some fourth world country shit.

Only if the tires grew on local trees.

No, it's classic 2nd world

The Navy's using tires too

That's fucking hilarious

Unclear exactly what it is but could be to confuse missiles using digital image matching for terminal guidance, like the land attack Neptune that's supposedly now in play.

So would a land Neptune just be a Jupiter? I eagerly await the Pluto burrowing missiles, too.

Pluto is not a missile.

Too soon!! 😭

Its a missile its just a minor missile we don't need 50k missiles that haven't cleared there orbital area

The latest iteration of Dazzle Camouflage. Probably about as effective (in WW1 it was "inconclusive", likely useless).

Wait wait wait wait wait. Wait... Wait.

They're using tires. Not paint, not tarps. Tires.

I'm not sure which combination of vodka and drugs this idea required but the fact that some senior officer signed off on this speaks almost as loudly as Russia's comically bad officer k/d ratio.

The main concern of a Russian officer is to keep his position. And the way to do this is to produce optimistic reports to the faraway high command, or be fired. He can't procure any valuable resources due to sanctions, so he uses anything he has just to show he does something. He cares about his position above everything else, so this decision is quite rational for him.

Time to start using thermite.

High explosives can also penetrate tires. This is more likely to be a weird attempt at camouflage.

Supposedly it confuses targeting sensors. I don't buy it.

I desperately want a concept video of this where the drone bounces off the tires.

So, NO STEP, but tires are ok I guess..?

I wish this was true because it would be funny, but it is likely camouflage. Not tires.

Why would you attempt to camouflage airplanes on an Airport with tires? Besides, the government agencies will get a much better resolution from their spy satellites than what you see in the pictures here, making it easy to spot planes with or without tires...

It's paint. Not tires. There are pictures of these planes on a runway with the same colors. I really doubt they would take off with tires on the wing. It's probably done to mess with drones that are manually flown into them.

I think the idea would be to take the tires off again before you take off.

If they were tires, they would be taken off before the plane started moving. Not when it gets to the runway.

D'oh!

Well it's pretty crap camouflage, it's the big plane thing. If in doubt fly into an engine.

They might be trying to do something like "dazzle camouflage" from WW1.

FWIW I've seen this image online. (Haven't been able to verify source)

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Sad! For realsies, though, I cannot wait for the Sacha Baron Cohen style comedic treatment this is setting them up for to the same absurd effect as "Grab 'em by the pussy" was comedically reinterpreted as "Grab 'em [the rats]. Buy the pussy [cat to hunt them]".

No the soldiers were simply tired, thats all. They just needed a good long dirt nap which we made sure they were well-equipped for. Putin always provides

New high-res photo:

File under “a normal day in Russia”

Not even NCD can think of such ingenious solution!

If it's stupid, but it works... It's not stupid

Experience has taught me that if it's stupid but it works then it's brittle and won't work for long.

Temporary solution is still a solution. Russia bad but we don't have to degrade everything they do as if it's pure idiocy

Yes, we do. Especially when it is.

Why would you assume that it works? They've tried a ton of shit in this war that was stupid and didn't work. For now I'm going to assume they are just throwing shit at the wall and seeing what sticks, as they have been the whole time. The fact that they're doing it means missiles are expected, so I'm sure we'll find out how stupid it is soon enough. My guess is very.

But does it work? That's the real question.

Maybe... In 20 years we might get the raw data. :) we don't know it doesn't work