In my opinion Qi's main feature is convenience. Having used Magsafe daily for a few years, 15W is okay. When I want more speed, I plug in.
I seriously don't understand why plugging in a cord is so hard than putting a phone on a lil plate?
It’s a few things for me personally:
Magnet/wireless charging is a one handed operation while corded charging is two
The magnet/wireless charging as a whole is slightly faster. At least one second, or more if you have an iPhone and don’t want to scratch up the stainless steel around the port. What do I do with that saved time? I don’t know either, but having one extra second is never a bad thing even if it’s not necessarily good
Wireless charging is easier in the dark
Whereas corded charging only provides the noticeable benefit of superior speed. This isn’t necessary if your battery is lasting through the day though. Now wireless charging is less efficient, so that sucks, but in use no one is actually noticing the extra electricity used and it’s probably equal environmentally to someone who charges and uses their battery multiple times a day.
Unbelievable! Can't believe people like you exist but thanks for the explanation.
You’ll probably find that most people prefer new conveniences over the old ways. Some older things like fountain pens are cool, but corded charging doesn’t have the same draw
I don't get why higher than 5w is needed. I charge my phone while I sleep. Wireless is super nice.
For when you have a low battery but are going out in less than an hour. You can always use a lower wattage charger for overnight.
Why switch chargers? Don't all Android phones have these options?
Not necessarily switching chargers, you can have a charger that lives by your bed thats slow and a fast one that you keep maybe by the couch. Then you wouldn't need to fiddle with settings every night
I never liked this new magsafe. When I had an iPhone, I bought a case with one (dumb gimmick that does nothing because the case is adhered to the phone) and a magsafe wireless charger. But every morning I had to hold down my wireless charger to take my phone off of it, or else it would come with the phone when I picked it up. Never made sense from a consumer standpoint for me.
I used to have a magsafe charger stuck to the wall and would just stick my phone to it
I mean, I would just stick down the charger?
Obviously, but what, you're just using double sided tape everywhere you have a charger? That's not very apple.
For the standalone magsafe adapters it can be a small annoyance but you can also get charging stands or stations that would be heavier and not have the same issue. Also I would much rather deal with the magnets when disconnecting the phone than not have them and deal with getting the alignment right. I have so often thought my phone was wirelessly charging only to wake up to a dead phone.
Overnight charger and one at work? Seems like a reasonable amount of tape?
On the nightstand, at the work desk, at the home office, near the coffee table, in the kitchen... all pretty reasonable and I'm sure you can think of more. Idk what the solution is but you have to admit the current set up is dumb. Yes it's a trivial inconvenience but that's what apple is known for solving...
I find it hard to believe there is a real need for a wireless charger in the kitchen. The whole point of increasing the efficiency of wireless charging is to reduce the time and number of times wireless charging is used.
You've never used your phone as a cookbook? Sure there's not a "real need" for it but if my phone's gonna sit on the counter for an hour while I make some bouillabaisse may as well charge it.
Sure. I check a step then do it. Then wake my phone up and do the next step. It's not like I have the screen on the whole time. And if I did, it's one hour. That's not my whole battery.
But if you are a true apple user, you'd be watching the recipe on your ipad not your iPhone.
this is the company that invented a mouse you have to flip over to recharge...
Mobile induction charging battery packs, I use one every single day and the only way those make sense is with magsafe.
Yeah that's cool but again I had one for my iPhone and it was awful... I would get like half of the power from it and would make my phone get super hot. You could always use those cases that have a battery built into it.
Like the only situation that makes sense to me would be cars, but they all have built in phone supporting screens
I mean, newer cars do. But it's not like a lot of people are out buying a new car every 2 years like they would a phone. My car is from 2015 and has a lot of bells and whistles but still doesn't have Car Play or Android Auto capabilities. I wouldn't even consider it to be that old of a vehicle considering how far you can get on a car nowadays.
Oh yeah, I mean car play and android auto are older than magsafe or qi2, so all cars that would have them built in would just have car play or auto.
Huh? You can easily buy a Magsafe phone mount to stick in your car. You can't conveniently or cheaply replace the head unit of your car to support Android Auto in a quality way. I mean you definitely can replace the head unit, but it'll either be expensive as fuck or it'll be a cheap and shitty experience. And replacing it is nowhere near as simple as just attaching a phone mount to your car.
Can Qi not get to higher speeds? 15W is slow.
In my opinion Qi's main feature is convenience. Having used Magsafe daily for a few years, 15W is okay. When I want more speed, I plug in.
I seriously don't understand why plugging in a cord is so hard than putting a phone on a lil plate?
It’s a few things for me personally:
Magnet/wireless charging is a one handed operation while corded charging is two
The magnet/wireless charging as a whole is slightly faster. At least one second, or more if you have an iPhone and don’t want to scratch up the stainless steel around the port. What do I do with that saved time? I don’t know either, but having one extra second is never a bad thing even if it’s not necessarily good
Wireless charging is easier in the dark
Whereas corded charging only provides the noticeable benefit of superior speed. This isn’t necessary if your battery is lasting through the day though. Now wireless charging is less efficient, so that sucks, but in use no one is actually noticing the extra electricity used and it’s probably equal environmentally to someone who charges and uses their battery multiple times a day.
Unbelievable! Can't believe people like you exist but thanks for the explanation.
You’ll probably find that most people prefer new conveniences over the old ways. Some older things like fountain pens are cool, but corded charging doesn’t have the same draw
Not to the point but you'll get the gist.
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I don't get why higher than 5w is needed. I charge my phone while I sleep. Wireless is super nice.
For when you have a low battery but are going out in less than an hour. You can always use a lower wattage charger for overnight.
Why switch chargers? Don't all Android phones have these options?
Not necessarily switching chargers, you can have a charger that lives by your bed thats slow and a fast one that you keep maybe by the couch. Then you wouldn't need to fiddle with settings every night
Taking the phone out of the case first is hardly convenient.
Never had to remove a single phone I've ever owned from the case to wirelessly charge.
Then your cases are thin sleeves that don't protect against impacts.
Don't use a barometric chamber on your phone.
I use a protective case, not a decorative one. Cases that actually protect are thick and sturdy.
I'd suggest a more durable phone if you can't even use a wireless charger with your case.
I just plug a cable, thanks.
I never liked this new magsafe. When I had an iPhone, I bought a case with one (dumb gimmick that does nothing because the case is adhered to the phone) and a magsafe wireless charger. But every morning I had to hold down my wireless charger to take my phone off of it, or else it would come with the phone when I picked it up. Never made sense from a consumer standpoint for me.
I used to have a magsafe charger stuck to the wall and would just stick my phone to it
I mean, I would just stick down the charger?
Obviously, but what, you're just using double sided tape everywhere you have a charger? That's not very apple.
For the standalone magsafe adapters it can be a small annoyance but you can also get charging stands or stations that would be heavier and not have the same issue. Also I would much rather deal with the magnets when disconnecting the phone than not have them and deal with getting the alignment right. I have so often thought my phone was wirelessly charging only to wake up to a dead phone.
Overnight charger and one at work? Seems like a reasonable amount of tape?
On the nightstand, at the work desk, at the home office, near the coffee table, in the kitchen... all pretty reasonable and I'm sure you can think of more. Idk what the solution is but you have to admit the current set up is dumb. Yes it's a trivial inconvenience but that's what apple is known for solving...
I find it hard to believe there is a real need for a wireless charger in the kitchen. The whole point of increasing the efficiency of wireless charging is to reduce the time and number of times wireless charging is used.
You've never used your phone as a cookbook? Sure there's not a "real need" for it but if my phone's gonna sit on the counter for an hour while I make some bouillabaisse may as well charge it.
Sure. I check a step then do it. Then wake my phone up and do the next step. It's not like I have the screen on the whole time. And if I did, it's one hour. That's not my whole battery.
But if you are a true apple user, you'd be watching the recipe on your ipad not your iPhone.
this is the company that invented a mouse you have to flip over to recharge...
Mobile induction charging battery packs, I use one every single day and the only way those make sense is with magsafe.
Yeah that's cool but again I had one for my iPhone and it was awful... I would get like half of the power from it and would make my phone get super hot. You could always use those cases that have a battery built into it.
Like the only situation that makes sense to me would be cars, but they all have built in phone supporting screens
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I mean, newer cars do. But it's not like a lot of people are out buying a new car every 2 years like they would a phone. My car is from 2015 and has a lot of bells and whistles but still doesn't have Car Play or Android Auto capabilities. I wouldn't even consider it to be that old of a vehicle considering how far you can get on a car nowadays.
Oh yeah, I mean car play and android auto are older than magsafe or qi2, so all cars that would have them built in would just have car play or auto.
Huh? You can easily buy a Magsafe phone mount to stick in your car. You can't conveniently or cheaply replace the head unit of your car to support Android Auto in a quality way. I mean you definitely can replace the head unit, but it'll either be expensive as fuck or it'll be a cheap and shitty experience. And replacing it is nowhere near as simple as just attaching a phone mount to your car.