i know this is a joke, but: firefox is still implementing manifest v3. the difference is that they're keeping WebRequest
Yes, but they will keep supporting MV2 "for the foreseeable future", which means that all old extensions should keep working. It is going to be somewhat scary when they decide to remove MV2 support, but for now we are good.
IIRC they said that they will keep MV2 until they are able to make the extensions work without MV2
im losing it
FIREFOX MY BELOVED!!! I haven't touched chrome since summer of 2019, don't regret the switch one bit.
cause I'm already on firefox silly
I love my little purple unstable fox π
I vibe with Firefox Nightly. It's unstable, but I've only had a build completely stop functioning once.
Librewolf is great; ngl it feels like vanilla Firefox has gotten too comfortable pushing sponsored content as of late
Tbf Mozilla needs money to keep doing good work, and I don't mind "paying" for Firefox like that when the only alternatives are "paying" by letting Google track and sell my personal data.
That is true. But honestly, when it comes to software I'd just rather be left alone, it's why I moved from Windows in the first place.
I totally wouldn't mind donating to Mozilla in some other way though.
I'm pretty sure they accept donations
Good to know, I'll be sure to donate then
That money's going to Mozila tho (or the Mozilla foundation or something, I never get the exact details right without looking up).
Anyway, the point is it will not be used to fund Firefox development if that is where you intend it to go. Can't, for legal reasons or other bs.
Probably no harm in donating whatsover, they do other great stuff aswell, just YSK.
as far ar I know:
the corporation builds the browser
the foundation does activism (and owns the corporation)
MZLA only exists because thunderbird needed some legal entity after Mozilla handed it over to the community
don't donate. they don't go to the browser
buy the VPN if you can. or pocket premium if such thing exists. those go to the browser
I'm on Vivaldi AFTER Firefox. Am I a pos-furry?
Is Chromium
Vivaldi gang
can't hear to the others over the sound of my lateral bars and easy tab tilling
Already using FireFox. It's nice that it comes preinstalled on most Linux distros too.
I wuv firefox :3
what would I do without my cross-platform history, passwords, and addon syncing? Mozilla is a godsend <3
I used to use Firefox but half the websites I visted were broken on it. Companies don't make their websites compatible with it anymore which really sucks. If Chrome kills adblocker, I'll switch back, but it's just annoying when you get to the middle of a transaction and the site stops working because the devs were too lazy to test on anything but Chrome.
What kinds of websites are you using? Been using Firefox my whole life, and the only instances I can remember of stuff not working on it are the web version of Microsoft Teams (Which works now), one proctoring site which required Opera, and some website where you could create music from samples that for some reason required Chrome.
I've been using Firefox since the days of Windows XP, I ain't gonna stop now.
Already there!
Mobile addons say hello
Should I post this in opra gxs replies?
DO IT
I mean I use Firefox, but why is it a better alternative? (I think I started using it cause it doesn't stop screen sharing on discord)
Mainly because it's not a Chromium based browser. Chrome is making it hard/impossible to use adblock, and if Firefox were to die for whatever reason, Google would basically monopolize the way we interact with the internet (which it has almost done already)
uBlock Origin (the good ad blocker) works best on Firefox because Google made it impossible for it to work as well on Chrome, and all browsers based on Chrome inherit that flaw. uBlock Origin is better because the developers don't have an "acceptable ads" program where they let some ads through, like Adblock Plus does.
Also, the developers of Adblock Plus let websites buy their way into the Acceptable Ads program.
I found Firefox WAY before i found Lemmy, no Chrome on my machines, UBlock Origin, Noscript, Facebook Container, Video Downloadhelper, Firefox lets one retake control
If you like Facebook containers, try the Firefox Container Tabs extension.
Jokes on those that went shiny and chromium, I never left Firefox.
Bless the gecko! Gecko is love, gecko is lyfe.
I already moved from lion daddy browser to fox daddy browser.
Firefox β₯οΈ
I switched to Firefox two years ago and never looked back :) Google chrome is transphobic
Love me some Brave...I use Firefox when that has issues though.
fyi brave is owned by a homophobe and they profit from putting their ads on content creators' accounts without asking them first
well fuck
Feels like I can't support anything without finding out it's run by pure evil- or that it's in the process of being ruined.
Fail again
Brave is chromium
Breaking my heart.
At least it can still view YouTube without ads for now. I'll branch out again.
Brave is a lil wacky,
It performs worse than Firefox in most cases
LibreWolf is the best browser
autocorrect doesn't work on firefox in macs which drove me away, very annoying
but also lemmy only works in firefox [and definitely not safari, very bad]
Firefox stopped working on my pc so I switched to opera
Sounds like your PC might need a refresh. Apps don't usually break for no reason.
Yeah, I know, but I really like how opera remembers tabs, so I might keep it anyway
Firefox remembers tabs as well, there are many days where ill start Firefox and ill be looking at the same tabs I'm looking at when i last closed it, and if not there's always the "restore previous session" option in the history menu.
It's an option in the settings for remembering previously opened windows and tabs.
Ok but Firefox is kinda bad compared to Edge, functionality wise. It beats it in privacy hands down though.
What features is Firefox possibly missing?
yeah, i don't want my browser to be bloated. . . by somebody.
I want it to be bloated by me with 2 dozens of my extensions. hahaha
if your talking about bing A.I. chat, you can just change your browser agent thru extension in order to use it in firefox.
The only thing I use Edge for is work because we do a lot of stuff through Azure so it makes some things easier.
But never on my own computers.
Edge is basically only way to use Teams on Linux unfortunately...
With o365 and Azure I've felt better with Firefox (and containers plugin) since it allows me to separate my logins easily. This is probably not a big deal if you have just 1-2 accounts though...
I have a separate work laptop and a KVM. I log into one domain on one account. So yeah, it's not an issue for my use case.
As for Teams on Linux, what distro are you running? There is a client for Ubuntu and others based on it. It never gave me any trouble.
I'm on Debian. The .deb "native" app was killed by M$ last year, while technically worked "fine" until recently.
I'm also working mainly on laptop provided by workplace, though I do sometimes access webapps from my desktop.
and a KVM
Took me way too long to understand you meant KVM switch and not about virtualization, was very confused. KVM switch would be a great to have actually, but I've enjoyed going to office lately so nbd
I see. I only JUST switched my laptop to Mint so I haven't even gone looking for it yet. I installed the beta probably early last year or maybe late '21 but never noticed it not updating lol Damn, that sucks ass.
And yeah, sorry, I meant a KVM switch. I love working from home. I go to the office about 10-15 times a year and travel for work a few times outside of that and that's enough of seeing some of my coworkers I need. My boss is on the same page. She's gonna be pissed if executive leadership ever take telework away from us.
Heh, many of our team also like working from home ever since 2020 but, now people have started returning to office partially because our manager kindly requested (upper management tried to enforce 2 days but kekw) but also few people like me genuenly just enjoyed getting out a bit more. I tend to be a bit home dweller if there's no actual burning reason to go out
Thats only a problem for you, Ive used teams on firefox running arch for ages without a problem
Edge is so laggy and inefficient on low-spec hardware though, like try running that baby on 8 gigs of ram and... no, it's all crashes.
I started using firefox right after I started using Lemmy.
I was using Firefox on my phone forever because it can block ads on mobile, and moved back to it from Chrome when it came out that Google was basically going to make ad blocking impossible in chromium itself eventually. I had been using Firefox for a long time even after Chrome came out but started using Chrome during a period where Firefox was much slower and was having a lot of issues for some reason.
hmmmmm i am not BRAVEEEEE enough for firefox though
Chrome on android sux firefox and ublock origin is the best but theres a couple extensions that keep me from switching on desktop
Firefox mobile with uBlock origin is a fucking godsend, the mobile web is nigh unusable without it because of ads.
Whenever I'm watching someone else use a browser and I see how many ads there are, I realize how great UBlock is.
It's also part of why I don't use apps for things like YouTube: I don't have to deal with ads if I just access the site like normal via Firefox.
If you want to put in a little effort: Youtube Revanced is the official Youtube app without ads
LibreTube is great as well
Revanced my guy
Checkout iceraven
Reject Manifest V3, return to fox browser.
i know this is a joke, but: firefox is still implementing manifest v3. the difference is that they're keeping WebRequest
Yes, but they will keep supporting MV2 "for the foreseeable future", which means that all old extensions should keep working. It is going to be somewhat scary when they decide to remove MV2 support, but for now we are good.
IIRC they said that they will keep MV2 until they are able to make the extensions work without MV2
im losing it
FIREFOX MY BELOVED!!! I haven't touched chrome since summer of 2019, don't regret the switch one bit.
cause I'm already on firefox silly
I love my little purple unstable fox π
I vibe with Firefox Nightly. It's unstable, but I've only had a build completely stop functioning once.
Librewolf is great; ngl it feels like vanilla Firefox has gotten too comfortable pushing sponsored content as of late
Tbf Mozilla needs money to keep doing good work, and I don't mind "paying" for Firefox like that when the only alternatives are "paying" by letting Google track and sell my personal data.
That is true. But honestly, when it comes to software I'd just rather be left alone, it's why I moved from Windows in the first place.
I totally wouldn't mind donating to Mozilla in some other way though.
I'm pretty sure they accept donations
Good to know, I'll be sure to donate then
That money's going to Mozila tho (or the Mozilla foundation or something, I never get the exact details right without looking up).
Anyway, the point is it will not be used to fund Firefox development if that is where you intend it to go. Can't, for legal reasons or other bs.
Probably no harm in donating whatsover, they do other great stuff aswell, just YSK.
as far ar I know:
the corporation builds the browser
the foundation does activism (and owns the corporation)
MZLA only exists because thunderbird needed some legal entity after Mozilla handed it over to the community
don't donate. they don't go to the browser
buy the VPN if you can. or pocket premium if such thing exists. those go to the browser
I'm on Vivaldi AFTER Firefox. Am I a pos-furry?
Is Chromium
Vivaldi gang
can't hear to the others over the sound of my lateral bars and easy tab tilling
Already using FireFox. It's nice that it comes preinstalled on most Linux distros too.
I wuv firefox :3
what would I do without my cross-platform history, passwords, and addon syncing? Mozilla is a godsend <3
I used to use Firefox but half the websites I visted were broken on it. Companies don't make their websites compatible with it anymore which really sucks. If Chrome kills adblocker, I'll switch back, but it's just annoying when you get to the middle of a transaction and the site stops working because the devs were too lazy to test on anything but Chrome.
User-Agent Switcher
What kinds of websites are you using? Been using Firefox my whole life, and the only instances I can remember of stuff not working on it are the web version of Microsoft Teams (Which works now), one proctoring site which required Opera, and some website where you could create music from samples that for some reason required Chrome.
https://webcompat.com/issues/new
complaining here won't solve anything
I've been using Firefox since the days of Windows XP, I ain't gonna stop now.
Already there!
Mobile addons say hello
Should I post this in opra gxs replies?
DO IT
I mean I use Firefox, but why is it a better alternative? (I think I started using it cause it doesn't stop screen sharing on discord)
Mainly because it's not a Chromium based browser. Chrome is making it hard/impossible to use adblock, and if Firefox were to die for whatever reason, Google would basically monopolize the way we interact with the internet (which it has almost done already)
uBlock Origin (the good ad blocker) works best on Firefox because Google made it impossible for it to work as well on Chrome, and all browsers based on Chrome inherit that flaw. uBlock Origin is better because the developers don't have an "acceptable ads" program where they let some ads through, like Adblock Plus does.
Also, the developers of Adblock Plus let websites buy their way into the Acceptable Ads program.
https://ublockorigin.com/
https://adblockplus.org/en/acceptable-ads
https://restoreprivacy.com/report-ad-blockers-allowing-acceptable-ads/
I'm already on Firefox, I love it
I found Firefox WAY before i found Lemmy, no Chrome on my machines, UBlock Origin, Noscript, Facebook Container, Video Downloadhelper, Firefox lets one retake control
If you like Facebook containers, try the Firefox Container Tabs extension.
Jokes on those that went shiny and chromium, I never left Firefox.
Bless the gecko! Gecko is love, gecko is lyfe.
I already moved from lion daddy browser to fox daddy browser.
Firefox β₯οΈ
I switched to Firefox two years ago and never looked back :) Google chrome is transphobic
Love me some Brave...I use Firefox when that has issues though.
fyi brave is owned by a homophobe and they profit from putting their ads on content creators' accounts without asking them first
well fuck
Feels like I can't support anything without finding out it's run by pure evil- or that it's in the process of being ruined.
Fail again
Brave is chromium
Breaking my heart. At least it can still view YouTube without ads for now. I'll branch out again.
Brave is a lil wacky,
It performs worse than Firefox in most cases
LibreWolf is the best browser
autocorrect doesn't work on firefox in macs which drove me away, very annoying
but also lemmy only works in firefox [and definitely not safari, very bad]
Firefox stopped working on my pc so I switched to opera
Sounds like your PC might need a refresh. Apps don't usually break for no reason.
Yeah, I know, but I really like how opera remembers tabs, so I might keep it anyway
Firefox remembers tabs as well, there are many days where ill start Firefox and ill be looking at the same tabs I'm looking at when i last closed it, and if not there's always the "restore previous session" option in the history menu.
Thx, I'll look into it
hehe
Ok but Firefox is kinda bad compared to Edge, functionality wise. It beats it in privacy hands down though.
What features is Firefox possibly missing?
yeah, i don't want my browser to be bloated. . . by somebody.
I want it to be bloated by me with 2 dozens of my extensions. hahaha
if your talking about bing A.I. chat, you can just change your browser agent thru extension in order to use it in firefox.
The only thing I use Edge for is work because we do a lot of stuff through Azure so it makes some things easier.
But never on my own computers.
Edge is basically only way to use Teams on Linux unfortunately...
With o365 and Azure I've felt better with Firefox (and containers plugin) since it allows me to separate my logins easily. This is probably not a big deal if you have just 1-2 accounts though...
I have a separate work laptop and a KVM. I log into one domain on one account. So yeah, it's not an issue for my use case.
As for Teams on Linux, what distro are you running? There is a client for Ubuntu and others based on it. It never gave me any trouble.
I'm on Debian. The .deb "native" app was killed by M$ last year, while technically worked "fine" until recently.
I'm also working mainly on laptop provided by workplace, though I do sometimes access webapps from my desktop.
I see. I only JUST switched my laptop to Mint so I haven't even gone looking for it yet. I installed the beta probably early last year or maybe late '21 but never noticed it not updating lol Damn, that sucks ass.
And yeah, sorry, I meant a KVM switch. I love working from home. I go to the office about 10-15 times a year and travel for work a few times outside of that and that's enough of seeing some of my coworkers I need. My boss is on the same page. She's gonna be pissed if executive leadership ever take telework away from us.
Heh, many of our team also like working from home ever since 2020 but, now people have started returning to office partially because our manager kindly requested (upper management tried to enforce 2 days but kekw) but also few people like me genuenly just enjoyed getting out a bit more. I tend to be a bit home dweller if there's no actual burning reason to go out
Thats only a problem for you, Ive used teams on firefox running arch for ages without a problem
Glad it works for you. I've had various problems with calls/meetings and sharing, but microshit doesn't even support those on ff unfortunately https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoftteams/limits-specifications-teams#browsers
Edge is so laggy and inefficient on low-spec hardware though, like try running that baby on 8 gigs of ram and... no, it's all crashes.
I started using firefox right after I started using Lemmy.
I was using Firefox on my phone forever because it can block ads on mobile, and moved back to it from Chrome when it came out that Google was basically going to make ad blocking impossible in chromium itself eventually. I had been using Firefox for a long time even after Chrome came out but started using Chrome during a period where Firefox was much slower and was having a lot of issues for some reason.
hmmmmm i am not BRAVEEEEE enough for firefox though
Chrome on android sux firefox and ublock origin is the best but theres a couple extensions that keep me from switching on desktop