MAGA Influencers Tearing Each Other Apart Over Israel-Hamas War

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MAGA Influencers Tearing Each Other Apart Over Israel-Hamas War
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Imagine a world in which the people who were most well-known and respected for their political commentary were thoughtful, intelligent, rational people with actual integrity instead of a motley assortment of amoral grifters spewing cheap provocation for profit and painfully obvious lunatics barking at the moon.

Dr. Richard Wolff is still doing good today, as is Angela Davis and Dolores Huerta

those people look to be interesting. wouldn't say they are well known

I'd say Angela Davis is pretty well known. She was part of the reason why the FBI made COININTELPRO.

You should read up on her. She's had a wild life.

Dr. Wolff is a highly respected marxian economist, he also is the president of Democracy@Work where he makes videos giving economic analysis of global trends.

Angela Davis is an activist that fought for civil rights and black liberation. She was a political prisoner for a time due to COINTELPRO. She's a professor now and still does work, but after so many friends getting killed she's ready to cede her position to the next generation of black activists.

Dolores Huerta is my personal favorite. She helped found the union United Farm Workers with Ceasar Chavez, organizes for the rights of immigrant farm workers, and pushes for voter enfranchisement in marginalized communities. She led the boycott aspect of the 60s Delano Grape Strike.

Dr. Wolff is kinda disappointing. I expect economists to use mathematical and statistical rigor, but have seen none of that from him. I also vaguely remembering him having a pretty bad take on Ukraine a while ago. And I can't stand his demeanor and the way he speaks, lol.

They can’t figure out who they hate more: muslims or Jewish people.

In the end they learned that the people they really hated were themselves all along.

It's almost like conservatives don't actually stand for jack shit. It's almost as if they just bleat and cackle about whatever bullshit gurgles out of their mouth hole the loudest and gets the most attention.

A "conservative opinion" is valueless and should be discarded out of hand. Conservatism is a plague long overdue for a cure.

I've been wondering how they would react to Trump calling Hamas smart and badmouthing Netanyahu. They have no idea what to do.

The People's Front of White Supremacy stands proudly with Israel, unlike those traitors in the White Supremacist People's Front.

I can settle this! They can ALL go fuck themselves with a lead pipe! If you can only find one pipe, take turns.

This is the best summary I could come up with:


While conventional wisdom has long held that Republicans, and particularly evangelicals, are the staunchest allies of Israel in the U.S., the latest bloody exchanges between the state and Hamas militants have revealed fault lines in that critical base of support.

For instance, Islamophobic conspiracy theorist Laura Loomer and pro-Russia MAGA influencer Jackson Hinkle, who mere weeks ago appeared to have a friendly relationship on X (formerly Twitter), are now sniping at each other over the conflict.

But that doesn’t sit well with others on the right, like Elijah Schaffer, a podcaster and writer for Gateway Pundit, who on Wednesday described one of Shapiro’s tweets as a “call for genocide” against the Palestinian people, comparing it to the Nazi rhetoric of Adolf Hitler.

This particular post resurfaced on Gab, a “free speech” social media platform rife with antisemitic extremism, where failed Senate candidate Sam Parker used it as a pretext to declare that Shapiro is an agent of the Israeli intelligence agency Mossad.

Shaprio has also sparred here and there with red-pill mansophere influencer and alleged human trafficker Andrew Tate, who has accused Israel of committing war crimes and the American right of “screaming for genocide” against the Palestinian people.

Looming in the background of all this infighting — and perhaps the only far-right operator who relishes the idea of a Republican schism over Israel — is Nick Fuentes, the Hitler-loving white supremacist whose “groyper” troll army pushes an ultranationalist “America First” agenda.


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Scenario: Charlie Kirk, Ben Shapiro and Chaya Raichik are all covered in voluntarily donated blood and you have the opportunity to push them into a pit of 1,000 starving pigs.. does the Internet get better in like an hour? Thoughts?

The world certainly would get better, for us and for a few of the pigs. Measurably though? Not really

There is so much hate for Israel and the Jews here on Lemmy that by the end of this, the political ends of the horseshoe will meet and the Nazi party will be full of both super liberal and super conservative Jewish-hating assholes.

Don't conflate condemning Israel with hating jews please. And one can condemn both Israel and Hamas while supporting the civilians in both Israel and Palestine.

The state of Israel government is not, nor will ever be, the “Jews.”

Unfortunately the world is not so black and white. Most people who criticise Israel on Lemmy are not antisemitic. If the Arabs ran the powerful ethnostate and it was placed in an existing country primarily occupied by Jews, who were treated like 2nd class citizens, I would support the Jewish state.

The real mystery is why some people out there want people like you to believe people like me are hateful for holding this opinion. I'm sure you don't condone the absolutely fucking disgraceful actions of Israel - like blocking food and water to Gaza for days - and I shouldn't treat you like a genocidal maniac for your broader opinion. Likewise, I don't support the targeting of civilians by Hamas. Treating me like I do would be fucking stupid.

People are complicated and simplifying them into straw men really only distorts your own perception of reality