South Korea Expects Its Already-World’s-Lowest Fertility Rate to Keep Falling

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South Korea’s World-Lowest Fertility Rate Set to Fall Further
time.com

The latest forecast by Statistics Korea puts the population in 2072 at 36.2 million, a 30% decline from the current 51.7 million, even though the fertility rate may recover a bit to 0.68 in 2026. The population is expected to fall every year starting in 2025.

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Nothings gonna change unless something changes.

namely their miserable work culture

It's probably work and wealth inequality that's the biggest driver for this.

There's also a massive and rising anti-feminist incel subculture, which the current President Yoon took power from. Women in South Korea don't trust men in South Korea as much.

Insane work culture, huge wealth inequality, and rising anti-women movements all hurt birth rates.

What's causing a rising anti-feminist incel subculture?

Unsurprisingly, a rising feminist subculture among women. Because Korea in general has been historically misogynistic, exposure to more feminist media and culture as well as societal progression has led to rises in feminism among women. As a response, men have felt threatened, and claim feminists are "going too far," and call feminists "femi."

An example of recent incel "controversy" is when an idol character in a video game had a frame where her index finger and thumb appeared like this: 🤏 and incels took that to be offensive to Korean Penis size, and had the man who animated that fired from Nexien. I wish I was joking.

So the exact same reaction that men the world over have when women start demanding equal rights.

Because Korea in general has been historically misogynistic

There's nothing particularly Korean about this. Basically every culture is historically misogynistic, the exceptions are few and far between and are generally romanticized based on limited information.

The exact same reactions took place in America 100 years ago during women's suffrage, and are taking place again now with the abortion debacle.

That's why I said "unsurprisingly," and considering South Korea has developed far more recently, it's also important to recognize that their social progress is behind much of other developed countries. I wasn't implying that Korea has anything specific about them that made them especially misogynistic, rather, it's pointing at their current conditions and trajectories.

Lol, hilarious.

I mean yeah, it's sad this is going on. But that example is just too funny.

Hopefully these men can get over themselves and start treating women with the respect they deserve.

Oh, absolutely, I agree. The only thing that truly brings solace is that reactionary movements get louder when progressive movements grow stronger.

It seems for the past few years, it keeps going lower than predicted, and thus the predications keep going down. I wouldn't be surpised if it instead bottomed out at 0.51 in say 2030

The issue isn't fertility, it's the country, the culture, the labor laws. Nobody will want to get kids in a climate like that

I beg to differ. Nobody can beat my infertility rate, I have 0 children. Unless someone out there has -1 children..

There's the (very) real issue of infant mortality.

Ya know, I see I'm getting downvoted by some folks, and that's perfectly okay. Just remember, the article is about adult fertility, not infant deaths. If folks stayed on topic, they might get my point.

There's no way I can have negative fertility, it's either zero or a positive number. I have zero children, so what?

To suggest negative fertility is absurd, sperm either fertilizes an egg or it doesn't. Zero or one (or maybe even two or more sometimes), but there's no such thing as semen unfertilizing a fertilized egg.

That's not my point at all.

If Mary has 2 apples, and she gives Billy 3 apples, then Mary has -1 apples. That math don't work homie, you can't have -1 of something.

lol just vote

Didn't know that you can vote who runs Samsung.

Akchually you can, if you own enough shares.

You actually can't, Samsung is owned and run by Chaebol. It's essentially the same family at the top, with no sign of their power shifting.

https://www.samsung.com/global/ir/governance-csr/board-of-directors/

Directors shall be elected by resolutions of a general meeting of shareholders. Executive Directors shall be elected from candidates recommended by the Board, and Independent Directors shall be recommended by the Independent Director Recommendation Committee.

Samsung is a publicly traded company. Owning enough shares allows you to have enough voting power to significantly alter the result of the elections with a single vote.

In theory, yes, though the number of shares required to go against the Chaebol is just not feasible. There's a reason South Korea specifically has a word for a specific group of Billionaire Capitalists, they are essentially untouchable.

For which party?

None of them seems to have any solution to the issues.

That’s the joke. This is literally a problem directly cause by capitalism, and voting will not solve this issue.

But people still think voting is the only way we can improve society.