Police fatally shoot Black woman who called 911 for domestic violence
A Los Angeles county sheriff’s deputy shot and killed a 27-year-old woman who had called 911 to report that she was under attack by a former boyfriend, police officials and lawyers for the victim’s family said on Thursday. Records show the deputy had killed another person in similar circumstances three years ago.
On 4 December, Niani Finlayson called police and “reported that her boyfriend would not leave her alone and then screaming and sounds of a struggle could be heard”, the LA sheriff’s department (LASD) said in a statement. When deputies arrived at the apartment in Lancaster, a city in the northern region of LA county, they could hear screaming, LASD said.
Finlayson was inside with her nine-year-old daughter and had been injured by her ex-boyfriend and wanted him removed, her family’s attorneys said. The exact circumstances that led to the fatal shooting are unclear and LASD has so far declined to release body-camera footage.
Uh, murder is the word you're looking for
The firearm flew out of the officer's holster and bullets were fired. Also, a woman died of acute lead poisoning.
involuntary manslaughter
I doubt it was involuntary.
“Oops I accidentally emptied my magazine uwu”
Damn how did you get your hands on a transcript already?
Involuntary voluntary manslaughter
There's footage to be released next week. I'll wait until then to raise my pitchfork.
You need clarity when it comes to cops, they could also have kneeled on her neck or beaten her to death.
The fact that this is the second person this cop has murdered in similar circumstances is fucking appalling. They should have been fired after the first murder.
Honestly, if cops want to keep abusing taxpayer funds, I want monthly "shareholder" meetings where citizens can review the month's performance, and demand changes. Clearly, police administrations are not capable of doing that job and have no accountability.
They should be in prison right now and thus not have the chance to murder this poor woman.
You could go to city council meetings. But expect to be harassed for it.
Yeah, I've found those to get really hostile, really fast.
Imprisoned, not fired.
Cops need to face penalties for abusing their power that are much harsher than what an average person would face, not more lenient.
All body cam footage needs to be monitored by a third party. Police departments shouldn't have the option of withholding body cam footage. It should be a made available public and made available immediately after the incident.
Simply turning off the body camera for any reason other than bathroom use should be a felony. Stripped of all credentials and banned from participating in any govt agency there is.
If that’s the only time they can turn them off, then they’re gonna have a lot of bathroom breaks.
Besides, what’s the worst that could happen? We find out they need more fiber and don’t wash their hands? Cameras aren’t pointing at the cops.
I was thinking more of public bathrooms for others privacy
Doesn't really matter whose privacy it's for. any exceptions at all creates a space where they can then abuse the fuck out of people. there's really no way around that.
They can. And they will.
Always have, always will. Corruption is like that.
Record continuously, with the feed streaming through BT/Wi-Fi connections in the car (the. From the car, streaming in real time, along with every other camera they have,)
The feeds are all monitored in real time by dispatchers. (This would help in crisis response, too, coordinating responding officers better in, for example, an active shooter,)
Cops don’t have access to the main storage, but they get copies for things, so they can’t tamper with it…. And it doesn’t get to be deleted until reviews of the tapes happen.
Can the networks even handle this? Every time I see a live stream its 144p @ 2.5 fps
It’s like, half the cost of one of their tanks, but it wouldn’t be that hard to run a dedicated intranet across places with the necessary bandwidth.
down the stream’s quality when off network. This is why the squad car uplinks- gives you a place to buffer if something happens. (And the body cam, too, when they have to get out.)
The important part is they don’t get to delete it, or turn it off. The real time monitoring would be intermittent, but eventually oversight happens. (Maybe even flag everytime it does drop)
In the absence of footage or any other direct evidence, anything that cops say in court should be considered a lie. That's the only way to level the playing field in the justice system and to stop effectively rewarding bad/criminal behavior on the part of law enforcement.
Against Carceral Feminism: Relying on state violence to curb domestic violence only ends up harming the most marginalized women.
I just don't understand the logic here. Don't get me wrong, I'm all in favor of abolishing the Duluth Model and the requirement to incarcerate someone on a domestic violence call.
But neither this situation, nor the story you linked to seems to have much to do with that policy.
In both situations, the police acted completely out of bounds. It is a completely different problem.
The story on the website was written in 2014 about an incident that happened in 1999, that's almost 25 years ago. It can't be considered relevant today. If there's a real systemic problem of this kind, you should have at least a dozen cases like this every single year.
Hopefully, in this most recent case we'll get some body cam footage released so we find out what really happened.
And also hopefully, the body cams is what will put this guy off the force forever. It's the second time he seems to have done something like this, but I'd bet that the first time, body cams were not standard practice yet.
Seems to me that the solution to stop this kind of thing from being a common problem is body cams, and that's what we have.
History is relevant, especially when there hasn't been any significant deviation from the historical status quo.
It turns out that doesn't work when the DA's office and/or the courts are just as corrupt as the cops, which is a majority of the time.
Also while we're wishing for things, wish for him to be in prison forever. There is absolutely no reason cops shouldn't face penalties that are at least as harsh as what ordinary people face when they blatantly commit crimes.
Only call the cops if you're 100% OK with anyone involved and around being killed. I.e. you're already under threat of death.
I mean without knowing more information than "she was being attacked by an ex boyfriend in a domestic violence situation" she very well could have been. I don't fault her at all for wanting to call the cops. 100% of the fault lies with the responding officers and the system that allows them to operate with the training and mindset that they have.
It didn’t seem to me that they were implying the officers are not at fault, but the fact remains that cops cannot be trusted to do the right thing when called and that you could end up dead if you call them as the victim reporting a crime.
Noor shot a woman who called because she thought some one was being raped. These kinds of “mistakes” never should happen.
And they happen way too often,
If her boyfriend was threatening to physically harm her or her child (he did injure her) and was preventing them from leaving, what do you suggest she do?
Shoot him
Did she have a gun? Do you think he would even allow her to have a gun? And do you think if she got one, he wouldn't be able to wrestle it away from her before she shot him?
I guess if all three of those answers are "yes, quite likely," your solution would be a good one.
On the other hand, not being able to shoot the man attacking you should not justify either him attacking her or the cop killing her.
I swear, some people seem to think everyone should be forced to own a gun.
I’m not saying I have better options for her, and I’m not blaming her for her death because she called the police, but calling the police always carries a risk of completely unnecessary death, and that is a huge fucking problem for any victim of any crime.
How is the whole US rioting at this point? Curious Frenchy here
I believe you dropped this: "not"
Ah there it is thank you my young man !
Man, those poor kids. I feel incredibly sad for them.
At this point it's generally safer to dial 811 in emergencies.
Never call the police regardless of your ethnicity. Period. They're not going to help. If you don't get shot, they'll look for some pretext to arrest you - even if you're the victim or witness of a crime.
What does it take to get liberals off their asses and get armed?! FFS, calling the cops to defend you is a bad idea at best, your death at worst. We all know this. Defend yourself first, call the cops second. And think on this, how fast you think they'll be there to save you when seconds count?
There are plenty of resources to teach you safety, law and how to shoot. POC, women and LGBT folks have been the largest gun buying demographic for a couple of years now. Think they might know something you do not?
CAVEAT EMPTOR: For the love of god, do not just run out and buy a pistol, call it all good. You must learn and practice safety. You must know the laws in your area. You must know what your weapon is capable of and practice, practice, practice. 1,000 rounds is the minimum to get comfortable and assure the machine's reliability.
If you do not wish to take on this learning curve? We all good, but don't do it.
Kinda irrelevant to this story. There should be no firearm in the same household as an abuser.