Kakao in the near future, trying to handle Tachiyomi forks:
I'm assuming this one is because he's just going to tell them to fuck off.
There's no legal basis to take it down.
Perhaps Mihon will tell Kakao to fuck off. But if Mihon doesn't, someone else will. [Plus I wanted an excuse to post a cute kitten .gif]
There’s no legal basis to take it down.
Even when there's no legal basis, a corporation is better prepared to potentially lose a legal battle than a bunch of amateurs are to potentially win it. It's a form of corporate trolling - "both of us know that you'd win if you fought, but also that you won't fight".
That works fine if you're a corporation dealing with one group that dares to stand between you and the money. But it fails if used over and over, as eventually one group will say "you want a bloody legal battle mate? We're focking getting one."
Quick scanning of the repo, Mihon didn't host or even mention the extension to read external source. So it basically just an application platform. If Kodi still survive, I think this will too.
The mistake of tachiyomi is putting the extension to read piracy website together with the base application
Tachiyomi is a fancy web browser. This is like suing Google because chrome can be used to access pirated content.
Intent matters. Tachiyomi is designed to read manga.
Hilariously, I'd never heard of any of this stuff until this company decided to Streisand the fuck out of themselves.
And the best part is that they went after the container instead of the content, so all they did was make their problem even worse...
Thanks OP, an FYI you can restore a Tachiyomi backup from Mihon to migrate straight across 👍
Can confirm it's working. Backup from tachiyomi J2k restores successfully in Mihon.
This has been my main issue with Kotatsu and Mangayomi.
Can someone confirm this? I tried and got an error
Can anyone tell me how to do it?
During setup there will be a page that asks if you want to create or restore from backups. If you hit "restore", it'll ask you to point it to the backups folder inside the Tachiyomi folder. Tachiyomi has backups set up by default, but if it's disabled you can go to the settings to create a backup
Thank you
Cut off one head of the Hydra and another two grow in its place.
When F-Droid?
I just opened an issue to add it to IzzyOnDroid's repo
Excellent, have been watching this.
Warning from the release:
Beware of any new fake versions of Mihon or Tachiyomi.
Anyone got any good extension repos? I'm more into western comics than manga
All of tachiyomi extensions are APKs since a long time ago. Previously we just trust it because it's hosted by tachiyomi itself. So you should still worry about the trustworthiness because it's hosted by unrelated person, but shouldn't because it's apk.
Maybe in the future Mihon should implement support for non-apk extensions, but for now we can only use that
you're gonna wanna get off GitHub fast
Why? Nothing about the previous situation had anything to do with it being on github.
Tachij2kfriends, I saw the mihon dev post somewhere that tachij2k shouldn't be used anymore. Is there a reason for that? Everything is still working on my end, and until it doesn't I intend to just keep using tachij2k unless there's a good reason not to. I also read somewhere that the Dev for j2k said he was gonna make some changes, but I wasn't able to verify that... Anyone know anything more? Thanks
The reason the Mihon de said that is because j2k is using an older tachiyomi base iirc. Updates on it have been on the slower side.
It's still being actively worked though (as far as I know) and it still works fine, so there's no reason to switch off of it for now. If Jay does drop it then you should move onto mihon or its forks (TachiyomoSY and TachiyomiAZ will be based off of mihon in future versions).
If it works on your end, no reason to stop using it. The reason they suggested to move elsewhere is because, at the time, there was no indication that j2k had any plans for continued development. Might've changed since they put that out, but that's what they sajd
The extensions seem still untrusted even after reinstalling. Does it need third party extensions??
Edit: will extensions be updated??
Browse> extensions>tap shield>trust
worked for me
I did that but what i meant is that when will it stop or when will it restore back to not sending errors anymore...
Yes, it needs third party extensions.
What's the difference then?
Is it the same software, a rebrand, a publishing team change?
It's a fork.
Lawyers went after Tachi Devs, Devs abandon Tachi, new Devs forked Tachi and made Mihon.
It's a fork, done by a previous Tachiyomi developer and maybe a TachiyomiSY developer too. So it's partly a publishing team change, as the main developers are different.
Since Mihon is exactly the same as Tachiyomi, besides changed branding and requiring Android 8+, it's also a rebrand.
Edit: It's also functionally exactly the same software.
If anyone's wondering why Mihon looks slightly different than Tachiyomi, the reason is this is a fork of TachiyomiSY, which has some changes/features over Tachiyomi (e.g. a predicted next chapter release date).
What I wrote is all wrong. I've just looked through the commit history and Mihon is a fork of Tachiyomi and currently it doesn't have any changes besides branding and being Android 8+.
I don't know why I believed otherwise, but it might be F-Droids 3 months old Tachiyomi build, which lacked many features compared to up-to-date TachiyomiSY.
Latest version of tachiyomi also has prediction of next release
Thank you for pointing out my misinformation. I've edited the comment accordingly.
Sorry, I'm super tech/software illiterate, can someone explain how to transfer what I had on tachiyomi over tonthis new app?
Rn it's just reskinned tachiyomi so export backup > import backup in mihon
It's simple. Go to Tachiyomi and create a backup. Then, in Mihon, during the first setup, it should give an option to restore backup.
You can also resotre backup in Mihon settings, then go to extensions and (trust) the restored extensions.
It's pretty much the same app at its core. So no need to change file names or formats. Everything should transfer.
That's fast, I just looked at the GitHub repo this morning and didn't see anything there
Anyone know why the change? I'm aware that they were being targeted but I thought removing the extensions had appeased the kcorp.
The devs just said fuckit afterwards, as you do when you get a lawsuit saying your about to be so far in debt because of your side project that your whole life will be turned up side down.
I would have done the same.
Kakao (or whatever they're called) were going after everyone involved, so Tachiyomi has been deprecated, one of the devs forked it and will continue development.
Mihon is from the tachiyomiSY devs, ~ick~ I don't know if they are the same but from a glance they are different.
A long time Tachiyomi developer made the commits making branding changes to Mihon, so they might work together. But as they didn't fork TachiyomiSY, its dev might continue work on it too.
I have read that the SY devs will now fork from mihon, and that they will develop both I think. No idea about the tachi dev. If that's the case then I guess that that dev also worked on SY, or they talked or whatever. I'll keep an eye on the commits and repo.
Why ick? Guess I'm out of the loop on that one
That was an unfortunate typo, I wanted to type "I don't know if they are the same". Sorry for the confusion.
Haha you're good, thanks for the heads-up! I just assumed I'd missed some sort of controversy lol
official tachiyomi is dead
What is keeping Kakao from doing the same thing again?
Kakao (hopefully) won't get to know the real names of the developers, which will prevent them from suing the devs personally.
They could try to DMCA claim the repo, but Tachiyomi is completely legal, so hopefully Github won't take it down. Github previously helped youtube-dl after they got DMCA notices.
How is this different from TachiyomiSY?
Edit: SY will continue by forking Mihon
As far as we know, TachiyomiSY has the same relationship with Mihon as it did with Tachiyomi previously. Maybe it'll change since SY's dev is also said to work on Mihon, but we'll see.
At the moment Mihon is the same as Tachiyomi with changed branding.
Thanks! I'll stick with SY for now since I'm getting errors with the sources for some reason whenever I migrate and it's a pain to fix.
that was fast
When is tachiyomi expected to not function anymore?
Kakao in the near future, trying to handle Tachiyomi forks:
I'm assuming this one is because he's just going to tell them to fuck off.
There's no legal basis to take it down.
Perhaps Mihon will tell Kakao to fuck off. But if Mihon doesn't, someone else will. [Plus I wanted an excuse to post a cute kitten .gif]
Even when there's no legal basis, a corporation is better prepared to potentially lose a legal battle than a bunch of amateurs are to potentially win it. It's a form of corporate trolling - "both of us know that you'd win if you fought, but also that you won't fight".
That works fine if you're a corporation dealing with one group that dares to stand between you and the money. But it fails if used over and over, as eventually one group will say "you want a bloody legal battle mate? We're focking getting one."
Quick scanning of the repo, Mihon didn't host or even mention the extension to read external source. So it basically just an application platform. If Kodi still survive, I think this will too.
The mistake of tachiyomi is putting the extension to read piracy website together with the base application
Tachiyomi is a fancy web browser. This is like suing Google because chrome can be used to access pirated content.
Intent matters. Tachiyomi is designed to read manga.
Hilariously, I'd never heard of any of this stuff until this company decided to Streisand the fuck out of themselves.
And the best part is that they went after the container instead of the content, so all they did was make their problem even worse...
Thanks OP, an FYI you can restore a Tachiyomi backup from Mihon to migrate straight across 👍
Can confirm it's working. Backup from tachiyomi J2k restores successfully in Mihon.
This has been my main issue with Kotatsu and Mangayomi.
Can someone confirm this? I tried and got an error
Can anyone tell me how to do it?
During setup there will be a page that asks if you want to create or restore from backups. If you hit "restore", it'll ask you to point it to the backups folder inside the Tachiyomi folder. Tachiyomi has backups set up by default, but if it's disabled you can go to the settings to create a backup
Thank you
Cut off one head of the Hydra and another two grow in its place.
When F-Droid?
I just opened an issue to add it to IzzyOnDroid's repo
Excellent, have been watching this.
Warning from the release:
Anyone got any good extension repos? I'm more into western comics than manga
https://github.com/keiyoushi/extensions maybe?
How trustworthy are those extensions? I see they are APKs.
There's source code repo for those APK: https://github.com/keiyoushi/extensions-source
All of tachiyomi extensions are APKs since a long time ago. Previously we just trust it because it's hosted by tachiyomi itself. So you should still worry about the trustworthiness because it's hosted by unrelated person, but shouldn't because it's apk.
Maybe in the future Mihon should implement support for non-apk extensions, but for now we can only use that
you're gonna wanna get off GitHub fast
Why? Nothing about the previous situation had anything to do with it being on github.
ACDAB - All Corporate Dogs Are Bastards
I thought this was supposed to be here: https://git.mihon.dev/mihon, without github
Probably mirror.
Maintainer is the same.
Tachij2kfriends, I saw the mihon dev post somewhere that tachij2k shouldn't be used anymore. Is there a reason for that? Everything is still working on my end, and until it doesn't I intend to just keep using tachij2k unless there's a good reason not to. I also read somewhere that the Dev for j2k said he was gonna make some changes, but I wasn't able to verify that... Anyone know anything more? Thanks
The reason the Mihon de said that is because j2k is using an older tachiyomi base iirc. Updates on it have been on the slower side.
It's still being actively worked though (as far as I know) and it still works fine, so there's no reason to switch off of it for now. If Jay does drop it then you should move onto mihon or its forks (TachiyomoSY and TachiyomiAZ will be based off of mihon in future versions).
If it works on your end, no reason to stop using it. The reason they suggested to move elsewhere is because, at the time, there was no indication that j2k had any plans for continued development. Might've changed since they put that out, but that's what they sajd
The extensions seem still untrusted even after reinstalling. Does it need third party extensions??
Edit: will extensions be updated??
Browse> extensions>tap shield>trust
worked for me
I did that but what i meant is that when will it stop or when will it restore back to not sending errors anymore...
Yes, it needs third party extensions.
What's the difference then?
Is it the same software, a rebrand, a publishing team change?
It's a fork.
Lawyers went after Tachi Devs, Devs abandon Tachi, new Devs forked Tachi and made Mihon.
It's a fork, done by a previous Tachiyomi developer and maybe a TachiyomiSY developer too. So it's partly a publishing team change, as the main developers are different.
Since Mihon is exactly the same as Tachiyomi, besides changed branding and requiring Android 8+, it's also a rebrand.
Edit: It's also functionally exactly the same software.
If anyone's wondering why Mihon looks slightly different than Tachiyomi, the reason is this is a fork of TachiyomiSY, which has some changes/features over Tachiyomi (e.g. a predicted next chapter release date).What I wrote is all wrong. I've just looked through the commit history and Mihon is a fork of Tachiyomi and currently it doesn't have any changes besides branding and being Android 8+.
I don't know why I believed otherwise, but it might be F-Droids 3 months old Tachiyomi build, which lacked many features compared to up-to-date TachiyomiSY.
Latest version of tachiyomi also has prediction of next release
Thank you for pointing out my misinformation. I've edited the comment accordingly.
Sorry, I'm super tech/software illiterate, can someone explain how to transfer what I had on tachiyomi over tonthis new app?
Rn it's just reskinned tachiyomi so export backup > import backup in mihon
It's simple. Go to Tachiyomi and create a backup. Then, in Mihon, during the first setup, it should give an option to restore backup. You can also resotre backup in Mihon settings, then go to extensions and (trust) the restored extensions.
It's pretty much the same app at its core. So no need to change file names or formats. Everything should transfer.
That's fast, I just looked at the GitHub repo this morning and didn't see anything there
Anyone know why the change? I'm aware that they were being targeted but I thought removing the extensions had appeased the kcorp.
The devs just said fuckit afterwards, as you do when you get a lawsuit saying your about to be so far in debt because of your side project that your whole life will be turned up side down.
I would have done the same.
Kakao (or whatever they're called) were going after everyone involved, so Tachiyomi has been deprecated, one of the devs forked it and will continue development.
Mihon is from the tachiyomiSY devs, ~ick~ I don't know if they are the same but from a glance they are different.
A long time Tachiyomi developer made the commits making branding changes to Mihon, so they might work together. But as they didn't fork TachiyomiSY, its dev might continue work on it too.
I have read that the SY devs will now fork from mihon, and that they will develop both I think. No idea about the tachi dev. If that's the case then I guess that that dev also worked on SY, or they talked or whatever. I'll keep an eye on the commits and repo.
Why ick? Guess I'm out of the loop on that one
That was an unfortunate typo, I wanted to type "I don't know if they are the same". Sorry for the confusion.
Haha you're good, thanks for the heads-up! I just assumed I'd missed some sort of controversy lol
official tachiyomi is dead
What is keeping Kakao from doing the same thing again?
Kakao (hopefully) won't get to know the real names of the developers, which will prevent them from suing the devs personally.
They could try to DMCA claim the repo, but Tachiyomi is completely legal, so hopefully Github won't take it down. Github previously helped youtube-dl after they got DMCA notices.
How is this different from TachiyomiSY?
Edit: SY will continue by forking Mihon
As far as we know, TachiyomiSY has the same relationship with Mihon as it did with Tachiyomi previously. Maybe it'll change since SY's dev is also said to work on Mihon, but we'll see.
At the moment Mihon is the same as Tachiyomi with changed branding.
Thanks! I'll stick with SY for now since I'm getting errors with the sources for some reason whenever I migrate and it's a pain to fix.
that was fast
When is tachiyomi expected to not function anymore?