This paints a picture in direct opposition to the Milei posts yesterday. Which made the situation seem bright.
You mean the one about the government surplus from the government not doing the things it's supposed to?
Yeah you can save a ton of money if you don’t pay your bills!
water turns off
internet turns off
power turns off
heat turns off
car gets repo’d
is evicted from apartment
credit tanks for the next decade
lawsuits
lawsuits
lawsuits
Stephen Harper did the same thing in 2011. He ran 6 straight years of deficit spending, sold Canada out to Nestle and the gas companies, cut funding to the public sector, and said "wow look at all this money I found! aren't I the best politician?"
That was my post. I wanted to post about the poverty rate as well for juxtaposition, but saw that topic was already posted before me so I didn't.
I mean we've had 4 years now if the situation being "not bright". Even Milei got elected saying shit will hit the fan. It's not something new for us down here
and the right wing plan is to simply increase the suffering until the problem fixes itself.. they are sure this will work somehow.. eventually..
Argentinians really do need to take a page out of France’s 1790’s journals. Lots of really effective tools that will correct the problem quickly; in particular the redistribution of stolen wealth, and the few surviving parasites at the top suddenly being on their best behaviour instead of acting like uncontrolled vampire squids.
The government sanctioned murders against anyone who spoke out against them
And also against thousands of corrupt pieces of shit who for centuries had enjoyed power and privilege over the masses.
A small price to lay for a better standard of living in the long term.
Replacing one tyrant with another tyrant doesn’t solve the worker’s plight
Replacing a monarchy with a republic is a move away from tyranny.
Poverty is a small price to pay?
Poverty was what they had under centuries of kings.
You say it like that is a good thing?
Getting rid of monarchy is a good thing.
I agree, but you phrased it as if living in extreme poverty under a septic ruler was all worth it, because after that it would all be better. E.g. that the Argentinians who live in squalor now are paying a 'small price'.
With that I don't agree
I think that was more your interpretation.
Are you willing to pay that price?
If theres a revolution would I not also be at potential risk of some abuse in the aftermath? So sure, its a price we all have to pay to push things forward from living under destructive systems.
Not just abuse, it could be your life. Revolutions have a tendency to get very bloody once the distribution of power starts to take place. Often targeting former comrades who also want the reigns of power.
Yeah I know. Im willing to take that risk because lives are already being lost today.
But I also don’t want a system where any individual has power to seize.
Quick, invade somewhere to distract from domestic issues
angry English noises
The worst part isn't even the invasion, it's that they make thatcher look based 🤢
If Milei saves the current Tory government by doing some stupid shit in the Falklands I will personally move to Argentina for the sole purpose of playing bagpipes outside his house at 3am every night
Haven't Argentinians suffered enough?
That's not a good hour to bagpipe. For getting shanked tho? It works wonders
Alright Paraguay, time to take another one for the team
Shocker: Shock therapy still doesn't work.
Well that was the plan, Javier Milei just wants to completely destroying the country.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
The UCA’s social debt observatory is considered an independent and prestigious research space whose reports on poverty cover a larger geographical area than those conducted by Argentina’s national statistics agency, INDEC.
According to the center’s latest report, the increase in poverty levels in January was partly due to the devaluation of the Argentine peso applied by the Milei government shortly after taking office on Dec. 10.
Eduardo Donza, a researcher with the social debt observatory, told The Associated Press that although inflation could slow in the coming weeks, the incidence of rising prices will continue to impact Argentinians and poverty would hit at least 60% of the population around March.
Milei, an ultra-liberal economist who is implementing a series of shock measures, including a sharp reduction in public spending, said that the fact that “six out of every 10 Argentines are poor” constitutes “the true inheritance of the caste model,” which is what he calls the political class who has governed Argentina for the last 20 years.
She said that, starting in 2018, “with a debt in dollars and the return of the IMF (...), we went backwards.” The reality presented by the study, Fernández de Kirchner said, “shows that today we are worse off than in 2004.”
Presidential spokesman Manuel Adorni said Monday during his daily press conference, that the former president is “one of the most relevant figures in the last 20 years of Argentina’s decline.”
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Wow, so the previous government had a poverty percentage of 0?
No, wait, they had 49% poverty by November 2023.
And you tell me that after all these changes to reduce spend, it went up by 8%? I would have expected it to reach 90% to be honest.
The whole goal of those changes is tough love to fix all the problems, so short term problems but in 2 years things improve for the better.
Administrations don't have near as much control over the short term as you seem to think.
Lol, “if we do even less we will magically become better in the long term” is genius levels of cope.
Austerity doesn't work, we've known this for a long time now.
I get what you mean. No I don't think they have magical control, but with all the fear monger about the guy on Lemmy you would expect that a nuclear cataclysm should have razed Argentina by now haha.
Still I do hope everything goes to plan and inflation starts to trend down. It is going down but we need more. Good thing is Caputo is aiming for inflation near 10% this February. If it even stabilizes over 5% monthly that would be an extreme boon.
They guy would be reelected for next term assuredly
Make fireguns legal and at some point someone will start shooting at the homeless.
This paints a picture in direct opposition to the Milei posts yesterday. Which made the situation seem bright.
You mean the one about the government surplus from the government not doing the things it's supposed to?
Yeah you can save a ton of money if you don’t pay your bills!
water turns off
internet turns off
power turns off
heat turns off
car gets repo’d
is evicted from apartment
credit tanks for the next decade
lawsuits
lawsuits
lawsuits
Stephen Harper did the same thing in 2011. He ran 6 straight years of deficit spending, sold Canada out to Nestle and the gas companies, cut funding to the public sector, and said "wow look at all this money I found! aren't I the best politician?"
That was my post. I wanted to post about the poverty rate as well for juxtaposition, but saw that topic was already posted before me so I didn't.
I mean we've had 4 years now if the situation being "not bright". Even Milei got elected saying shit will hit the fan. It's not something new for us down here
and the right wing plan is to simply increase the suffering until the problem fixes itself.. they are sure this will work somehow.. eventually..
Argentinians really do need to take a page out of France’s 1790’s journals. Lots of really effective tools that will correct the problem quickly; in particular the redistribution of stolen wealth, and the few surviving parasites at the top suddenly being on their best behaviour instead of acting like uncontrolled vampire squids.
For those unaware
The government sanctioned murders against anyone who spoke out against them
And also against thousands of corrupt pieces of shit who for centuries had enjoyed power and privilege over the masses.
A small price to lay for a better standard of living in the long term.
Replacing one tyrant with another tyrant doesn’t solve the worker’s plight
Replacing a monarchy with a republic is a move away from tyranny.
Poverty is a small price to pay?
Poverty was what they had under centuries of kings.
You say it like that is a good thing?
Getting rid of monarchy is a good thing.
I agree, but you phrased it as if living in extreme poverty under a septic ruler was all worth it, because after that it would all be better. E.g. that the Argentinians who live in squalor now are paying a 'small price'.
With that I don't agree
I think that was more your interpretation.
Are you willing to pay that price?
If theres a revolution would I not also be at potential risk of some abuse in the aftermath? So sure, its a price we all have to pay to push things forward from living under destructive systems.
Not just abuse, it could be your life. Revolutions have a tendency to get very bloody once the distribution of power starts to take place. Often targeting former comrades who also want the reigns of power.
Yeah I know. Im willing to take that risk because lives are already being lost today.
But I also don’t want a system where any individual has power to seize.
Quick, invade somewhere to distract from domestic issues
angry English noises
The worst part isn't even the invasion, it's that they make thatcher look based 🤢
If Milei saves the current Tory government by doing some stupid shit in the Falklands I will personally move to Argentina for the sole purpose of playing bagpipes outside his house at 3am every night
Haven't Argentinians suffered enough?
That's not a good hour to bagpipe. For getting shanked tho? It works wonders
Alright Paraguay, time to take another one for the team
Shocker: Shock therapy still doesn't work.
Well that was the plan, Javier Milei just wants to completely destroying the country.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
The UCA’s social debt observatory is considered an independent and prestigious research space whose reports on poverty cover a larger geographical area than those conducted by Argentina’s national statistics agency, INDEC.
According to the center’s latest report, the increase in poverty levels in January was partly due to the devaluation of the Argentine peso applied by the Milei government shortly after taking office on Dec. 10.
Eduardo Donza, a researcher with the social debt observatory, told The Associated Press that although inflation could slow in the coming weeks, the incidence of rising prices will continue to impact Argentinians and poverty would hit at least 60% of the population around March.
Milei, an ultra-liberal economist who is implementing a series of shock measures, including a sharp reduction in public spending, said that the fact that “six out of every 10 Argentines are poor” constitutes “the true inheritance of the caste model,” which is what he calls the political class who has governed Argentina for the last 20 years.
She said that, starting in 2018, “with a debt in dollars and the return of the IMF (...), we went backwards.” The reality presented by the study, Fernández de Kirchner said, “shows that today we are worse off than in 2004.”
Presidential spokesman Manuel Adorni said Monday during his daily press conference, that the former president is “one of the most relevant figures in the last 20 years of Argentina’s decline.”
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Wow, so the previous government had a poverty percentage of 0?
No, wait, they had 49% poverty by November 2023.
And you tell me that after all these changes to reduce spend, it went up by 8%? I would have expected it to reach 90% to be honest.
The whole goal of those changes is tough love to fix all the problems, so short term problems but in 2 years things improve for the better.
Administrations don't have near as much control over the short term as you seem to think.
Lol, “if we do even less we will magically become better in the long term” is genius levels of cope.
Austerity doesn't work, we've known this for a long time now.
I get what you mean. No I don't think they have magical control, but with all the fear monger about the guy on Lemmy you would expect that a nuclear cataclysm should have razed Argentina by now haha.
Still I do hope everything goes to plan and inflation starts to trend down. It is going down but we need more. Good thing is Caputo is aiming for inflation near 10% this February. If it even stabilizes over 5% monthly that would be an extreme boon.
They guy would be reelected for next term assuredly
Make fireguns legal and at some point someone will start shooting at the homeless.
Not good but just the rethoric of some people.