Wait. After all this hype Tesla has only managed to move 3878 units of the Cybertruck? That's hilarious.
You gotta understand that metal this shitty is hard to find.
They should have tried discarded Boeing composite materials. Good enough to explore the Titanic a couple-ish of times.
“Well, maybe just the one time. Take it or leave it”
Who the fuck can afford them?
Lemme guess, there around 4000 billionaires right now
The target audience is people who can't afford them
Over 2 million goddamn people?! i know they're "only" about 60-100k, but holy shit. Also 5 year wait, seems more like 10 years would be realistic for most people
I can afford one. It’s not that expensive.
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Yeah he's an asshole too lol. Been in more than one argument with him until he banned me lol. Talk about thin skin.
The average new car runs around 47k. The cyber truck is 60k. There isn’t a huge difference there.
The one I want is 80k. I latest have two cars. Both cost about 60k a piece. The truck can replace both of those.
Not if they keep taking it away from you.
Then you are left with 0 vehicles while they fix it
I’ll decide when I hit my number. My main annoyance is the mileage isn’t what they originally claimed. That was the appeal was a 500 mile range. The the sweet spot for my driving needs. Why I have two cars. Otherwise I’d be all electric.
Yeah, a 500 or 600 mile range would be about where I'd bite; or just a better charging network.
The reason I want 500 is the 280 or so I get is good most the time except when it’s very cold out. 500 would help during the summer and winter. When it’s super cold out I get Maybe 200 miles.
Yup and when I drive it's either nowhere or nearly 120 miles each way with next to no charging infrastructure in-between both points or at either end.
I could of course install a charger at my own house, but that only solves 1 end. 500 would be a comfortable buffer as the batteries inevitably degrade and for below freezing weather conditions.
You need a charger at your home. Otherwise they’re just not practical. Superchargers eat the batteries. Slow charges take to long to use except overnight.
There are a lot of rural charges but they’re low voltage. Can take hours if not days to charge your car
This is not an unreasonable statement. I’ve had a Tesla for 7 years and tell people that don’t have a way to charge at home that it will be the only drawback to owning one. Especially if it’s a commuter and you don’t travel.
When I had a charger at home, it saved me about 1800$ a year on gas alone compared to electricity increase. Plus, you don’t have to leave 15 minutes early for work to stop and fill up on your way in and the incidental breakfast taco or Red Bull purchase while you fill up stopped, as well.
I work remotely now and travel all over the country. There are plenty of superchargers on major roads and destination chargers at hotels, but I have had 2 instances where I had to plan specific routes to visit remote national parks or I wouldn’t have enough charge to get back. I was able to plan them and see the parks, but it took a bit of forethought to make sure.
If you have a way to charge at home, it’s a no-brainer. My gas savings alone would have covered the cost of the car in the life of the vehicle if I kept the same driving habits. If you drive a ton in super remote areas, you have to pay attention to where the 2100 superchargers are. The car does that for you, but on the occasional remote trip, there are pockets of road uncovered by charging stations.
As for superchargers eating batteries, I’ve lost around 5% of my total range in 8 years and can get around 317 miles on a full charge (335 from factory). I hardly ever drive more than 250 miles before I stop for a break, so it hasn’t affected me at all yet.
Why compare it to the average new car instead of the average new pickup?
It fairs even better when you look at trucks. The average is over 60k for a truck which makes the cyber a steal.
Personally I don’t see it as a “truck”. It’s weird car
Yeah weird in that regard that a car wash can render it non-functional if you forget to put it into car wash mode
I initially thought it was a joke
Interesting, my Mazda doesn’t have that problem 😉
I haven’t read on that yet. Car wash mode turns off certain features. I can’t remember which one to avoid the car fighting the wash
That is the real take away. They have a large waitlist but can’t seem to build them.
I don’t know why you’re being downvoted. They have a large waitlist and are early in iteration on this product.
I’d bet they have hardware recalls for the next 18 months that taper off as they ramp up. The amount of new engineering that went in the cybertruck is insane compared to any other vehicle in their lineup.
This is why you see all of the legacy automakers having problems making EVs, having tons of recalls, and pulling back. New technology is hard to mass produce until you work out all the kinks in the design and workflow.
I wouldn’t by a CT because I don’t like the aesthetics; but, if I did, I wouldn’t buy one for at least 3 years from now. Same reason I won’t buy a Rivian R1S. They aren’t at the point the recalls are down to manageable. Rivian may be good in another year or 2. The ford EV line… seems like them pulling back means they won’t have a decent EV track record for at least a decade, if they’re still around then.
Most people on lemmy just want buzzwords, catch phrases and group think.
Most Tesla recalls are ota. The pedal is concerning because if it does get stuck, it’s hard to just turn the car off.
When I worked at Boeing, we used dawn dish soap to seat door gaskets. Tesla is just adopting aerospace technologies for its fancy cars, what's the problem?
Womp womp.
This is fucking hilarious
While theyre redesigning the "gas" pedal, just redesign the whole thing
This is the best summary I could come up with:
On Monday, we learned that Tesla had suspended customer deliveries of its stainless steel-clad electric pickup truck.
Now, the automaker has issued a recall for all the Cybertrucks in customer hands—nearly 4,000 of them—in order to fix a problem with the accelerator pedal.
It has come at an inconvenient time for Tesla, which is laying off more than 10 percent of its workforce due to shrinking sales even as CEO Elon Musk asks for an extra $55.8 billion in compensation.
Fortunately, applying the brake overrides the accelerator and cuts torque immediately, but that still didn't prevent one owner from allegedly crashing into a light pole before he was able to bring his Cybertruck to a stop.
Tesla is no stranger to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration's official recall process, but this time there is no software fix or over-the-air patch.
The company says that it will notify its stores and service centers about the recall "on or around" today, and that owners will be contacted in due course.
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Hmm. It's not totally clear to me from the description what's breaking, but based on what's there, I feel like this maybe isn't the best fix. Like, okay, fine, maybe the lube problem is the proximate cause.
But bigger question: should automobile pedals mechanically be able to be wedged down by the pedal in the first place? Like, can I shove the pedal down with one foot and then pull this pedal cover up with another in such a way that it gets held in the down position?
How would you propose changing the pedal?
Put a fastener through the thing, preventing it from moving?
But then it would just be a footrest
To stop the part from sliding off, not the whole pedal.
their solution is rivets. I suspect this is going to repeat itself when the plastic around those rivet holes cracks and degrades, but the cybertwat might be off the road by then for any number of other idiotic design 'choices'
a single pedal part instead of a pedal with a fancy design fascia on top.
The problematic part is a rug, not the pedal
Edit: Nevermind, misread at 2 am
so the pedal fascia can slide up and get caught under the dash (there's a gap in the dash covers that it slides right into!?!?, no shit) or down and under the rug.
Either are very bad ideas for a pedal connected to that much power.
And why does the pedal need the plastic bit? because otherwise it would be unadorned, plain black.
I'm of the mind that I'd prefer my pedals simple, so they're less likely to kill someone lol.
The cover slips between the dash and the floor wedging the pedal down.
Wait. After all this hype Tesla has only managed to move 3878 units of the Cybertruck? That's hilarious.
You gotta understand that metal this shitty is hard to find.
They should have tried discarded Boeing composite materials. Good enough to explore the Titanic a couple-ish of times.
“Well, maybe just the one time. Take it or leave it”
Who the fuck can afford them?
Lemme guess, there around 4000 billionaires right now
The target audience is people who can't afford them
Over 2 million goddamn people?! i know they're "only" about 60-100k, but holy shit. Also 5 year wait, seems more like 10 years would be realistic for most people
I can afford one. It’s not that expensive.
#OutOfTouch-OrAI?
Moderator of /conservative 🤣
Yeah he's an asshole too lol. Been in more than one argument with him until he banned me lol. Talk about thin skin.
The average new car runs around 47k. The cyber truck is 60k. There isn’t a huge difference there. The one I want is 80k. I latest have two cars. Both cost about 60k a piece. The truck can replace both of those.
Not if they keep taking it away from you.
Then you are left with 0 vehicles while they fix it
I’ll decide when I hit my number. My main annoyance is the mileage isn’t what they originally claimed. That was the appeal was a 500 mile range. The the sweet spot for my driving needs. Why I have two cars. Otherwise I’d be all electric.
Yeah, a 500 or 600 mile range would be about where I'd bite; or just a better charging network.
The reason I want 500 is the 280 or so I get is good most the time except when it’s very cold out. 500 would help during the summer and winter. When it’s super cold out I get Maybe 200 miles.
Yup and when I drive it's either nowhere or nearly 120 miles each way with next to no charging infrastructure in-between both points or at either end.
I could of course install a charger at my own house, but that only solves 1 end. 500 would be a comfortable buffer as the batteries inevitably degrade and for below freezing weather conditions.
You need a charger at your home. Otherwise they’re just not practical. Superchargers eat the batteries. Slow charges take to long to use except overnight. There are a lot of rural charges but they’re low voltage. Can take hours if not days to charge your car
This is not an unreasonable statement. I’ve had a Tesla for 7 years and tell people that don’t have a way to charge at home that it will be the only drawback to owning one. Especially if it’s a commuter and you don’t travel.
When I had a charger at home, it saved me about 1800$ a year on gas alone compared to electricity increase. Plus, you don’t have to leave 15 minutes early for work to stop and fill up on your way in and the incidental breakfast taco or Red Bull purchase while you fill up stopped, as well.
I work remotely now and travel all over the country. There are plenty of superchargers on major roads and destination chargers at hotels, but I have had 2 instances where I had to plan specific routes to visit remote national parks or I wouldn’t have enough charge to get back. I was able to plan them and see the parks, but it took a bit of forethought to make sure.
If you have a way to charge at home, it’s a no-brainer. My gas savings alone would have covered the cost of the car in the life of the vehicle if I kept the same driving habits. If you drive a ton in super remote areas, you have to pay attention to where the 2100 superchargers are. The car does that for you, but on the occasional remote trip, there are pockets of road uncovered by charging stations.
As for superchargers eating batteries, I’ve lost around 5% of my total range in 8 years and can get around 317 miles on a full charge (335 from factory). I hardly ever drive more than 250 miles before I stop for a break, so it hasn’t affected me at all yet.
Why compare it to the average new car instead of the average new pickup?
It fairs even better when you look at trucks. The average is over 60k for a truck which makes the cyber a steal.
Personally I don’t see it as a “truck”. It’s weird car
Yeah weird in that regard that a car wash can render it non-functional if you forget to put it into car wash mode
I initially thought it was a joke
Interesting, my Mazda doesn’t have that problem 😉
I haven’t read on that yet. Car wash mode turns off certain features. I can’t remember which one to avoid the car fighting the wash
That is the real take away. They have a large waitlist but can’t seem to build them.
I don’t know why you’re being downvoted. They have a large waitlist and are early in iteration on this product.
I’d bet they have hardware recalls for the next 18 months that taper off as they ramp up. The amount of new engineering that went in the cybertruck is insane compared to any other vehicle in their lineup.
This is why you see all of the legacy automakers having problems making EVs, having tons of recalls, and pulling back. New technology is hard to mass produce until you work out all the kinks in the design and workflow.
I wouldn’t by a CT because I don’t like the aesthetics; but, if I did, I wouldn’t buy one for at least 3 years from now. Same reason I won’t buy a Rivian R1S. They aren’t at the point the recalls are down to manageable. Rivian may be good in another year or 2. The ford EV line… seems like them pulling back means they won’t have a decent EV track record for at least a decade, if they’re still around then.
Most people on lemmy just want buzzwords, catch phrases and group think. Most Tesla recalls are ota. The pedal is concerning because if it does get stuck, it’s hard to just turn the car off.
From the comments:
Womp womp.
This is fucking hilarious
While theyre redesigning the "gas" pedal, just redesign the whole thing
This is the best summary I could come up with:
On Monday, we learned that Tesla had suspended customer deliveries of its stainless steel-clad electric pickup truck.
Now, the automaker has issued a recall for all the Cybertrucks in customer hands—nearly 4,000 of them—in order to fix a problem with the accelerator pedal.
It has come at an inconvenient time for Tesla, which is laying off more than 10 percent of its workforce due to shrinking sales even as CEO Elon Musk asks for an extra $55.8 billion in compensation.
Fortunately, applying the brake overrides the accelerator and cuts torque immediately, but that still didn't prevent one owner from allegedly crashing into a light pole before he was able to bring his Cybertruck to a stop.
Tesla is no stranger to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration's official recall process, but this time there is no software fix or over-the-air patch.
The company says that it will notify its stores and service centers about the recall "on or around" today, and that owners will be contacted in due course.
The original article contains 317 words, the summary contains 169 words. Saved 47%. I'm a bot and I'm open source!
Hmm. It's not totally clear to me from the description what's breaking, but based on what's there, I feel like this maybe isn't the best fix. Like, okay, fine, maybe the lube problem is the proximate cause.
But bigger question: should automobile pedals mechanically be able to be wedged down by the pedal in the first place? Like, can I shove the pedal down with one foot and then pull this pedal cover up with another in such a way that it gets held in the down position?
How would you propose changing the pedal?
Put a fastener through the thing, preventing it from moving?
But then it would just be a footrest
To stop the part from sliding off, not the whole pedal.
their solution is rivets. I suspect this is going to repeat itself when the plastic around those rivet holes cracks and degrades, but the cybertwat might be off the road by then for any number of other idiotic design 'choices'
a single pedal part instead of a pedal with a fancy design fascia on top.
The problematic part is a rug, not the pedal
Edit: Nevermind, misread at 2 am
so the pedal fascia can slide up and get caught under the dash (there's a gap in the dash covers that it slides right into!?!?, no shit) or down and under the rug.
Either are very bad ideas for a pedal connected to that much power.
And why does the pedal need the plastic bit? because otherwise it would be unadorned, plain black.
I'm of the mind that I'd prefer my pedals simple, so they're less likely to kill someone lol.
The cover slips between the dash and the floor wedging the pedal down.
https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTLa8p5o1/
This is the video source of the recall.
Repost.