No, this is just rioting. That's not to say rioting is bad, it got redlining and segregated neighborhoods banned, and is an important part of peaceful demonstrations, as it shows what the consequences will be if they don't give into your demands.
No. It's not "just rioting". Try that again without the value judgment.
We see this type of hidden judgement on a regular basis. The key words are "just" and "only". It's an annoyingly effective rhetorical device, because the statement looks like an objective description of things when it's not.
What hidden value judgement? I pointed out that rioting or other violent action, or at least the credible threat of, is necessary for any progress.
You're both right.
Often, descriptors like simply, only, just, etc. are used to diminish or manage perceptions of dissent.
However, saying 'no it's just a riot' in this case is merely accurate grammar, as it's applying needed nuance and limits to the definition of civil disobedience.
As you pointed out, this is partly a matter of interpretation. So opinions could reasonably vary, and I respect that.
I believe it's clear enough that in this case, saying that the situation is just a riot, is a way of taking focus away from the other things that were happening. Perhaps it wasn't a riot and then turned into one, and maybe we should be focusing on what happened first. Or perhaps there was a riot happening along with something else, and that second thing is worth mentioning.
For anyone wondering:
civil disobedience, the refusal to obey the demands or commands of a government or occupying power, without resorting to violence or active measures of opposition
Bricks
Civil
Who doesnt like a bit of Orkposting
You mean Gorkposting
Ee was brutal and kunnin'
WHYZ YOU WHISPERING!?!
Man, I miss the ork communities
START 'UN, INVITE SOME BOYZ, AND GET ORKPOSTIN!!!
The queers:
Well it would be impolite to say no. ACAB
cops and bricks, a match made in heaven
Always the right response
The force of habit
When in Rome
what was his crime? eating a meal? a succulent chinese meal?
You know your judo well!
He was also loosely the inspiration for the titular character in Inside Llewelyn Davis iirc
Inside Llewyn Davis is one of my favorite movies for how it essentially deals with depression, but Dave van Ronk being an ally even if just in throwing bricks makes it even better imo
A true ally
King shit
Goes to show that he doesn't sing about personal experiences in Luang Prabang, because that takes balls
I honestly thought I was the only person who knew about that song.
Civil disobedience? Well don't mind if I do.
Civil Disobedience is the opposite of this.
Uncivil Disobedience
Ok ok. Civil disobedience, but with bricks
No, this is just rioting. That's not to say rioting is bad, it got redlining and segregated neighborhoods banned, and is an important part of peaceful demonstrations, as it shows what the consequences will be if they don't give into your demands.
No. It's not "just rioting". Try that again without the value judgment.
We see this type of hidden judgement on a regular basis. The key words are "just" and "only". It's an annoyingly effective rhetorical device, because the statement looks like an objective description of things when it's not.
What hidden value judgement? I pointed out that rioting or other violent action, or at least the credible threat of, is necessary for any progress.
You're both right.
Often, descriptors like simply, only, just, etc. are used to diminish or manage perceptions of dissent.
However, saying 'no it's just a riot' in this case is merely accurate grammar, as it's applying needed nuance and limits to the definition of civil disobedience.
As you pointed out, this is partly a matter of interpretation. So opinions could reasonably vary, and I respect that.
I believe it's clear enough that in this case, saying that the situation is just a riot, is a way of taking focus away from the other things that were happening. Perhaps it wasn't a riot and then turned into one, and maybe we should be focusing on what happened first. Or perhaps there was a riot happening along with something else, and that second thing is worth mentioning.
For anyone wondering:
Who doesnt like a bit of Orkposting
You mean Gorkposting
Ee was brutal and kunnin'
WHYZ YOU WHISPERING!?!
Man, I miss the ork communities
START 'UN, INVITE SOME BOYZ, AND GET ORKPOSTIN!!!
The queers:
Well it would be impolite to say no. ACAB
cops and bricks, a match made in heaven
Always the right response
The force of habit
When in Rome
what was his crime? eating a meal? a succulent chinese meal?
You know your judo well!
He was also loosely the inspiration for the titular character in Inside Llewelyn Davis iirc
Inside Llewyn Davis is one of my favorite movies for how it essentially deals with depression, but Dave van Ronk being an ally even if just in throwing bricks makes it even better imo
A true ally
King shit
Goes to show that he doesn't sing about personal experiences in Luang Prabang, because that takes balls
I honestly thought I was the only person who knew about that song.
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