Makes sense. Gotta be neutral territory. She needs to propose an alternative. ABC is left leaning.
At this point the GQP is so far to the right that everything is left leaning.
Compared to many countries in Europe even US "left" is pretty right.
When we rhetorically ask "Is the US alright?", that's what we're implying: "Is there any part of it actually left of our center?"
The US' left is still far right of almost every other democracies' right.
I have literally seen them call Fox News leftist because it will no longer air election denial bs.
It's not at all. They are a huge corporation owned by other corporations, there's no liberal mainstream media, there's sensible center right news, and reactionary hard right news, there are ZERO leftists news stations. Because it costs a ton of money to be a news station and rich people aren't even a little bit leftist.
I think publically funded ones tend left, mostly because raw facts tend to have a left "bias". Lol
I've had to resort to that or international news to get any sort of unsensationalized news, though.
DW is pretty good. They get called left leaning by Americans, but that's just because leftist policies have a well known reality bias.
If you listen to NPR and realize most of their funding was donated by The Koch Brothers, you'll start to notice how often they are on the same talking points as FoxNews and same unchallenged opinions of right wing reactionaries from pundants on most issues. They just deliver it in a smooth and smarmy tone. Again. No one has a media company free of serious financial cost, and no one with money is a leftist.
That's quite the claim. Do you have an example of NPR espousing the same points that Fox News is?
Haven't listen in a while but I started noticing it with the news segments usually some passive voice headline then a pundit would come on and just let fly, I remember a woman trying the ''Democrats want immigration so immigrants will all vote for them'' just as a stated fact and the host of the program just moved on to other questions, a lot of passive voice then a pundit with familiar talking points, I'm just taking about the news reporting here, not every single program that plays.
Iirc, the iffier funding streams financing NPR are Amazon and Meta. They often have to disclose it when they report anything on them, though, and it hasn't seemed to matter when reporting on the tech layoffs or human rights abuses regarding these companies. As the other comment said, you'll want to back your claim up here.
Democracy Now! is pretty decent.
It isn't really a station, but Amy Goodman as a moderator would be pretty great.
Pacifica then.
NPR hosted debate in Switzerland.
Can he go to Switzerland being a felon and all?
At least he would end up in a jail, where he rightfully belongs.
BBC hosted in Switzerland
I get your point, how is ABC left leaning though? I'm not up on my US media except for knowing CNN seems neutral, Fox being right.
Fox isn't even news. By their own admission, they are for entertainment purposes only. They might as well debate on Nickelodeon
Right, that's why I went for "media" I suppose.
Hey, I think that Linda Ellerbee would be a fine debate moderator.
Also: left leaning versus right wing mouthpiece. ABC v Fox doesn't seem like a fair comparison.
Is ABC really left? The Democrats are centre right in my Europerspective.
Agree 100%
In Trump terms, left = anyone he disagrees with.
That's what I've always thought too. Like there's being biased or leaning left or right or whatever... And then there's Fox News. They are so far beyond that it's seriously bordering on satire at this point. They don't lean right, they fucking blasted off into outer space to the right on a rocket ship that's still cruising off into the distance.
Here's the abc media bias fact checker:
They're fairly even keeled but they do still have all the failings of other main stream media. If 1 is left and ten is right (under US focused understanding) I'd probably say they're a 3.5-4.5.
Not talking about any local affiliates. IMO local affiliates tend to be better than national.
that site is a joke, everything is center left there
LOL, according to that website BBC is center left.
I'm not even sure what national ABC is; as far as I've ever seen its local affiliates. Unless we're just talking Disney which I guess is left leaning (that is, if acknowledging gay people existing is left leaning which honestly is kind of sad).
W/ the national vs local I was speaking broadly about the major US news sources. Not just ABC. Even local Fox tends to be slightly less decisive.
I worked for a local Fox affiliate and, as much as I hated it for other reasons, I can tell you that our journalists and producers were sincere about getting out accurate local reporting.
Fox affiliates aren't so bad, ya. I grew up on Good Day LA and it was mostly daytime fluff pieces anyway.
Makes sense. Gotta be neutral territory. She needs to propose an alternative. ABC is left leaning.
At this point the GQP is so far to the right that everything is left leaning.
Compared to many countries in Europe even US "left" is pretty right.
When we rhetorically ask "Is the US alright?", that's what we're implying: "Is there any part of it actually left of our center?"
The US' left is still far right of almost every other democracies' right.
I have literally seen them call Fox News leftist because it will no longer air election denial bs.
It's not at all. They are a huge corporation owned by other corporations, there's no liberal mainstream media, there's sensible center right news, and reactionary hard right news, there are ZERO leftists news stations. Because it costs a ton of money to be a news station and rich people aren't even a little bit leftist.
I think publically funded ones tend left, mostly because raw facts tend to have a left "bias". Lol
I've had to resort to that or international news to get any sort of unsensationalized news, though.
DW is pretty good. They get called left leaning by Americans, but that's just because leftist policies have a well known reality bias.
If you listen to NPR and realize most of their funding was donated by The Koch Brothers, you'll start to notice how often they are on the same talking points as FoxNews and same unchallenged opinions of right wing reactionaries from pundants on most issues. They just deliver it in a smooth and smarmy tone. Again. No one has a media company free of serious financial cost, and no one with money is a leftist.
That's quite the claim. Do you have an example of NPR espousing the same points that Fox News is?
Haven't listen in a while but I started noticing it with the news segments usually some passive voice headline then a pundit would come on and just let fly, I remember a woman trying the ''Democrats want immigration so immigrants will all vote for them'' just as a stated fact and the host of the program just moved on to other questions, a lot of passive voice then a pundit with familiar talking points, I'm just taking about the news reporting here, not every single program that plays.
Iirc, the iffier funding streams financing NPR are Amazon and Meta. They often have to disclose it when they report anything on them, though, and it hasn't seemed to matter when reporting on the tech layoffs or human rights abuses regarding these companies. As the other comment said, you'll want to back your claim up here.
Democracy Now! is pretty decent.
It isn't really a station, but Amy Goodman as a moderator would be pretty great.
Pacifica then.
NPR hosted debate in Switzerland.
Can he go to Switzerland being a felon and all?
At least he would end up in a jail, where he rightfully belongs.
BBC hosted in Switzerland
I get your point, how is ABC left leaning though? I'm not up on my US media except for knowing CNN seems neutral, Fox being right.
Fox isn't even news. By their own admission, they are for entertainment purposes only. They might as well debate on Nickelodeon
Right, that's why I went for "media" I suppose.
Hey, I think that Linda Ellerbee would be a fine debate moderator.
Also: left leaning versus right wing mouthpiece. ABC v Fox doesn't seem like a fair comparison.
Is ABC really left? The Democrats are centre right in my Europerspective.
Agree 100%
In Trump terms, left = anyone he disagrees with.
That's what I've always thought too. Like there's being biased or leaning left or right or whatever... And then there's Fox News. They are so far beyond that it's seriously bordering on satire at this point. They don't lean right, they fucking blasted off into outer space to the right on a rocket ship that's still cruising off into the distance.
Here's the abc media bias fact checker:
They're fairly even keeled but they do still have all the failings of other main stream media. If 1 is left and ten is right (under US focused understanding) I'd probably say they're a 3.5-4.5.
Not talking about any local affiliates. IMO local affiliates tend to be better than national.
that site is a joke, everything is center left there
LOL, according to that website BBC is center left.
I'm not even sure what national ABC is; as far as I've ever seen its local affiliates. Unless we're just talking Disney which I guess is left leaning (that is, if acknowledging gay people existing is left leaning which honestly is kind of sad).
W/ the national vs local I was speaking broadly about the major US news sources. Not just ABC. Even local Fox tends to be slightly less decisive.
I worked for a local Fox affiliate and, as much as I hated it for other reasons, I can tell you that our journalists and producers were sincere about getting out accurate local reporting.
Fox affiliates aren't so bad, ya. I grew up on Good Day LA and it was mostly daytime fluff pieces anyway.