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Wait for some of them to transition

Be a m2w trans that wants to study CS

Study CS first

Transition when done with school

Sexism from fellow students avoided 👍

Basically. I know at least two other trans women besides myself from my graduating class.

Stereotypes, all of us 😅

First semester of my cs degree, it was around 50/50. After 3 semesters very few women were left. Spoiler: it was not because they could not handle the courses.

It was another time, but the first field my mother went into was IT. She dropped her punch cards on her way to the computer and had to explain to the teacher that she would need time to put them back in order. His reaction?

"Women have no business in my class, go do the nursing program instead."

The takeover of a what was once a female-dominated sector was in full swing at that point. A damn shame. Did she stick it out?

Nah, but she still ended up as a manager in a tech company so she won in the end 😂

I had a shitty old (late 60s) boss in 2008 who once interviewed a female engineer straight out of college.

Most interviews he gave took like 25-30 minutes. He spent an hour and a half alone in the conference room with this young woman.

After she left he said something to the team like "Sure wouldn't mind seeing her around the office every day eh? We're not hiring her of course. Women don't have the head for this work."

This same guy had me block all news sites except Fox News (I was the IT director). He was fine with his employees reading the news as long as it was Fox (I ended up teaching a couple of my coworkers how to use proxies).

I was one of three women in my year who graduated in CS at my university. I did most of my course work at home…trying to be one of the guys and make sure kindness wouldn’t be considered flirting made for a weird 4 years. No horror stories to tell though , just plenty of awkwardness.

Some of the ugliest sexism I've seen was at the CS faculty in my university. The courses are packed with niceguys and kneejerk anti-feminists.

We had one of our lectors straight up tell us in front of full class (18 ppl: 16 guys and 2 gals), that we are going to use our diplomas as a hot pot stand. And we are here just for show, to hook up with smart guys. Yes, those were his exact words.

Nothing in me or the other girl suggested that we were attending lections to flirt with someone. Especially knowing that both of us were quite diligent students.

He also was very open and proud about him being sexist. It's still baffling to me that people like that exist, succeed, and have a bloody confidence to take pride in their shittiness.

I don't know where this was, but in most places this would be grounds for a serious report. It's unacceptable for a person in a position of power to act like that.

Sadly, considering where I lived (not US, and not EU), I strongly believe that nobody would give a damn about the report.

Its the pride that keeps baffling me. "Yes I am an asshole! I choose to live like this and if you don't you're dumb!"

I used to work at Google and one of the engineers I worked with showed up to interview a guy from eastern Europe (like 15 years ago).

He looked at her and immediately said "I thought this was going to be a technical interview."

That was the extent of his Google interview, didn't even get the cafeteria lunch.

I gather that guy would fit in a lot better with the Google of today sadly.

Just wait for them to buy programming socks

What's wrong with programming socks?

Nothing is wrong with programming socks. But that will be a sure sign of women in the room.

Ah ok, I missed the joke, but then, both my husband and I have binary socks, and I have GitHub socks as well, so... I am the joke, I guess? :)

Nothing, he'll just finally have women to date in his CS classes.

Funny thing is that in our “regional delivery center” in Romania, most developers are woman, and CS is a very desirable study for woman there

The world is big and very diverse.
If you’re a stay at home mom here in Norway, you’re probably religious or rich. I’d say IT is still heavily male dominated, but it’s better than when I was in school.
In some parts of the world women do most of the work, some places are barred from doing any work.

In India most people who study computer science are women !

I think where you messed up is trying to date other CS majors. True love comes from dating the Comparative Lit majors. And when that doesn’t work, accounting.

Coincidentally also works for career changes.

You zero prospects, I see a squadron of wingmen

I see you've never been to a bar with a CS major

(probably also because you can't get them to go to bars)

Idk, large chunk of my CS class was extroverted. They liked to party, many were in relationships and we often went for pints between lectures at the campus bar.

There ofc was a lot of weirdos and assholes around too, an above average amount, but they got outnumbered by normal dudes.

Had a decent amount of women but by the end of the 1st year like half of the class was gone and most women left. They found it boring, too technical or they were not really ready for university, same for the dudes that dropped out. There ofc was sexism, but that came from niceguys or dudebros, they exist in every field.

As for my professional life, most sexism I saw was from career managers and finance staff.

Dude in the pale green shorts and white t-shirt on the left is a hottie, maybe ask him if he knows your friend Sean Cody...

Why do your buddies make it impossible for you to get a ..ooohhhh

But it's all the friends we made along the way. That's that counts right? /s