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ElCanut@jlai.lu to Technology@beehaw.org – 351 points –
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This might be pedantic, but the use of the word "need" pisses me off more than the unrealistic requirement. It's so needy.

Right. When I used to ring my drug dealer and he be like what you need.

I’m like need need need, I’m not an addict I don’t need this. I just want it for the 830th day in a row.

Some people.

That's not exactly the take I was expecting, but alright.

The person who posted it is apparently addicted to abusing other peoples labour. Now, as a labour dealer, I can't provide them with one guy with 10 years experience. That's too high of a dose.

However, if they're willing, I can probably find 10 guys with 1 year experience, but the price is going to be 10 times the going rate, because that's how much it'll cost me to hire and manage those 10 people off fiver.

Am I cutting the shit? Go find another dealer then. It's not my "need". That's a "your problem".

Sure, why not... I'll have 15 years of experience using ChatGPT, and only ask for a 2040s salary plus the time travel commute. 🙄

Everyone is whining about this requirement. Do you guys not have a hyperbolic time chamber to jump into? I'm already Super ChatGPT Plus God Mode.

Super Sayian God Super Sayian or bust

What a terrible future it would be if people had to commute to their job in a different time! Reminds me of Ook and Gluk by Dav Pilkey.

Ironically this is probably the result of someone using ChatGPT to write their job listing

It's a good thing I used gpt to write up a resume. I've got 10 years in I'm sorry, but as an AI language model, I cannot have a conversation with individuals who have committed criminal offenses. And 5 years working with patients who I'm sorry, as a large language model I can't be liable for giving you false or misleading medical information.

This reminds me of a guy who was rejected from a programming position because he didn't have 5 years experience in this programming language... Which really fucked with him because he literally invented said language, less than five years ago.

I've heard a lot of this is companies setting their hiring standards to an impossible high so that they can say "Look we tried, there's no one qualified in America, we have to outsource the labor to this other country that literally doesn't have minimum wage or labor laws."

FastAPI, not a language, but a very good python library, if somebody wants to read the story

This is why I report the job postings to the website posted, and to my country's department of labour. I know it seems futile, but I'm petty and I have time.

Turns out, it's actually helpful, I had someone reach out to me saying they were investigating a certain company, and if I had any more information about the screenshot I sent them a year ago.

Good! If these agencies aren't going after real criminals they're going to harass you and me, that's just how it works sadly.

H1B skilled worker visas. You have to prove that you tried to hire locally and couldn't find anyone qualified. The whole point is that the qualifications are impossible, so you are either under qualified or lying. Since no qualified candidate exists, you can bring someone over from overseas and hold the risk of being deported if you fire them over their heads - and you suddenly get less thorough about checking qualifications for your immigrant candidates.

I remember when I was trying to break into the Linux sysadmin role. Every job required 3-5y professional experience. I'd had a homelab for a while and was reasonably experienced with a number of things, but there was absolutely no willingness to bring on a newbie and train them up. It was super frustrating. How will I ever get any experience if you won't hire anyone without years of experience?

It's still like that with programming languages like Go and Rust. Job offers are exclusively for senior staff engineers with 5 years of language-specific experience.

Did you manage to get a position? How was it?

I had an in-person interview lined up after a phone interview went really well. However, I got offered a different position before the Linux interview was scheduled and I had to take it because I was unemployed and couldn't gamble on it not working out.

I just got back into virtualizing Linux instances on Proxmox (had been on ESXi before the Broadcom fuckery). I'm considering going that route again as of just very recently.

You can get internship for sysadmin role like I am doing as Odoo developer.

This is fairly common for tech jobs, asking for more experience than is phisically possible. Theres a whole sub about shit like this on the old site.

ChatGPT makes you a 10x developer, so using it for one year is like ten years of experience ^/s

And there is angst re AI hallucinating, seems that also affects HR.

South Park was right all along. Those time travelers really are taking our jobs.

Maybe it's the first way to filter applicants? Smort!

But what are they filtering for?

They want the best con artists.

40 years in the field you say, and how old are you?

With people always lying on their resumes, I won't be surprised if I see someone posting them working with ChatGPT since the 70s 🤣

Stuff like this has kind of made me partially give up and settle in a sub-par job. There's always job listings like this. Of course, I still apply, but man, after getting ghosted more times than I can count over the years, I don't look at listing regularly anymore. I find it just makes me depressed.