Making policy and political discussion a faux pas was a brilliant way to destroy democracy.
Which is a real doozy when you think about the duplicity it is to no longer allow a convicted citizen the right to vote, which is so strongly held by some people on all sides, almost evenly I'd say.
How it must feel, to be so cool to allow yourself the privilege of not participating, just like the criminals politics generates. š
Football Jerseys from a bygone era on Saturdays isn't the only indicator that someone never really grew beyond highschool.
I ruthlessly ask people about and talk about my own salary because of this. Usually they dont mind, but when they do it gives me a lot of insight, which sounds kinda creepy but i like knowing who i work with.
If you cant even talk about your fairly easily predicted salary, then talking bigger politics is just not gonna be productive probably.
People will find out your take home and if greater than theirs they become flippant, and when lower, denigrating.
I prefer not to share mine, because YOU turn into an ass, not cause I am one
Thats exactly why i do it. If it changes someones behaviour towards me, then i will ignore them or if not possible at least their opinions. Its a filter of sorts.
Fair enough, to me it shouldn't matter. I may make more than someone else in my position because I command vast experience and capabilities, but may earn less than someone else who is better still than I am.
When I was a bit younger and more vindictive I'd like to try and talk to people about it. But most people don't want to tell anyone how much they make foe the same reason.
You have the right and should have the right to discuss your pay, but that doesn't mean that anyone who doesn't want to is a shill.
And if the discrepancy is too much, you have a great example to point to at your next negotiation
Best to know your own market value and argue for that. Know how much you make and net for the company will give you an idea of your own value.
If your plan to increase your rate of pay is to whine that someone else has more or is more valuable, your argument will fall on deaf ears. Deaf fairly.
Go in and say "I'm worth this much, and it is because i make the company this much money and deserve this share of it" instead of "I'm worth this much because this other person is"
Almost no one who has ever demanded a raise because their colleague makes more than them has ever gotten that raise.
Don't make their salary your argument for why you deserve a raise, make it the target to ground your expectations from the negotiation. And point out the discrepancy if they lowball you
According to conservatives "politics" is apparently only something the nasty evil Othersā¢ do, just like everything everybody else does that they don't like is "ideology".
āPoliticsā is when women in games.
I saw a gAmEr complaining about all the woke things in Starfield, and he listed things like "unattractive females" and "accents".
So yeah, if feeeeeeemale in my vidya no make pp hard = WOKE POLITICS. Also if foreign people in my vidya = WOKE IDEOLOGICAL PANDERING
"It's not politics, it's just Common Sense(tm) to want a 0% tax rate for the ultrawealthy and serfdom contracts for the poor!"
When I say "I'm not interested in politics", what I mean is "I can't bear to listen to another right-wing crank regurgitating the latest bullshit he's read on Infowars". Sometimes it means "I can't bear to listen to my 100% white sister-in-law castigate me for not using the term 'LatinX'".
Oh, well then you're using the wrong words to describe things. What you mean is, you're not interested in extremist politics. It doesn't sound like you have a problem with moderate politics.
Here's an example of some moderate politics: I want to watch the new season of Star Trek Prodigy with my partner, but my partner wants to run a load test on its CPU to check for problems. Turns out my partner can't be in a voice chat while running the load test, I won't be able to hear it. So I told it that it should finish its load test and message me when it's ready to watch TV. That's politics. A group of people had to make a decision, and we did. I made the decision and my partner accepted it, because my partner trusts me with political power and I place importance on my partner's needs.
(Also my partner does not yet know there is a new season of Prodigy. I'm planning to surprise it!)
No, it means I'm lying to them. If I say I don't agree with their politics, I'll get an ear full. If I lie and say I don't follow politics, I can diplomatically end that discussion branch. Grow up liberal in a conservative family and you'll get it. I'm not convincing these geezers of anything and I don't want to waste my social energy trying.
I grew up communist in a conservative family and I resolved the issue by having more patience and skill for debate than my parents.
Also try pulling out the "this is why I don't love you" on a reactionary parent. It cuts really deep š
Lol, I got shouted at for just recognizing Michael Moore. Besides, I've been masking so long, I've been invited to represent my county in state ag issues and I've been tilting things to recognise Climate Change.
Grow up liberal in a conservative family and you'll get it
Real
Join city council meetings and tell your city to adopt Ranked Choice Voting. This is often done through city charter amendment. Find your local RCV group and support them. Educate people about RCV what RCV is and what it is not. Keep it non-partisan. You donāt have to vote for somebody you donāt want to. That is also engaging in politics whether you like it or not.
Join city council meetings
That sounds terrible.
The good news: We have some small modicum of control.
The bad news: Control involves pain, disappointment, frustration, anger, and a whole bunch of mental anguish that people who don't pay attention to politics don't have to deal with.
I feel like the people who "don't pay attention" are the ones voting Trump.
It's designed that way!
Political apathy is a clear sign of unknown, unappreciated and unused privilege. Screw conservatives but at least they know the value of being able to vote and thus try to uphold this privilege by taking part in a society that allows them to take part in that way.
Dear Americans,
Yes, we do all know this and it's vitally important to form your own political opinions and also vote.
However, there's a very good reason we don't mention politics or religion in polite conversation, or nowadays, online
You will not change anyone's mind, no matter what you say or how you say it; there is absolutely no point in bringing your political opinions into threads about fuckin beans or ducks or any other subjects not based in politics or religion.
So fucking boring
I'm not interested in US politics
Get out there and vote on July 4th!
ā¤ļø
Nah it's just what we say when we want the shit lib or Reich winger to go preach their nonsense to something else.
Making policy and political discussion a faux pas was a brilliant way to destroy democracy.
Which is a real doozy when you think about the duplicity it is to no longer allow a convicted citizen the right to vote, which is so strongly held by some people on all sides, almost evenly I'd say.
How it must feel, to be so cool to allow yourself the privilege of not participating, just like the criminals politics generates. š
Football Jerseys from a bygone era on Saturdays isn't the only indicator that someone never really grew beyond highschool.
I ruthlessly ask people about and talk about my own salary because of this. Usually they dont mind, but when they do it gives me a lot of insight, which sounds kinda creepy but i like knowing who i work with.
If you cant even talk about your fairly easily predicted salary, then talking bigger politics is just not gonna be productive probably.
People will find out your take home and if greater than theirs they become flippant, and when lower, denigrating.
I prefer not to share mine, because YOU turn into an ass, not cause I am one
Thats exactly why i do it. If it changes someones behaviour towards me, then i will ignore them or if not possible at least their opinions. Its a filter of sorts.
Fair enough, to me it shouldn't matter. I may make more than someone else in my position because I command vast experience and capabilities, but may earn less than someone else who is better still than I am.
When I was a bit younger and more vindictive I'd like to try and talk to people about it. But most people don't want to tell anyone how much they make foe the same reason.
You have the right and should have the right to discuss your pay, but that doesn't mean that anyone who doesn't want to is a shill.
And if the discrepancy is too much, you have a great example to point to at your next negotiation
Best to know your own market value and argue for that. Know how much you make and net for the company will give you an idea of your own value.
If your plan to increase your rate of pay is to whine that someone else has more or is more valuable, your argument will fall on deaf ears. Deaf fairly.
Go in and say "I'm worth this much, and it is because i make the company this much money and deserve this share of it" instead of "I'm worth this much because this other person is"
Almost no one who has ever demanded a raise because their colleague makes more than them has ever gotten that raise.
Don't make their salary your argument for why you deserve a raise, make it the target to ground your expectations from the negotiation. And point out the discrepancy if they lowball you
According to conservatives "politics" is apparently only something the nasty evil Othersā¢ do, just like everything everybody else does that they don't like is "ideology".
āPoliticsā is when women in games.
I saw a gAmEr complaining about all the woke things in Starfield, and he listed things like "unattractive females" and "accents".
So yeah, if feeeeeeemale in my vidya no make pp hard = WOKE POLITICS. Also if foreign people in my vidya = WOKE IDEOLOGICAL PANDERING
"It's not politics, it's just Common Sense(tm) to want a 0% tax rate for the ultrawealthy and serfdom contracts for the poor!"
When I say "I'm not interested in politics", what I mean is "I can't bear to listen to another right-wing crank regurgitating the latest bullshit he's read on Infowars". Sometimes it means "I can't bear to listen to my 100% white sister-in-law castigate me for not using the term 'LatinX'".
Oh, well then you're using the wrong words to describe things. What you mean is, you're not interested in extremist politics. It doesn't sound like you have a problem with moderate politics.
Here's an example of some moderate politics: I want to watch the new season of Star Trek Prodigy with my partner, but my partner wants to run a load test on its CPU to check for problems. Turns out my partner can't be in a voice chat while running the load test, I won't be able to hear it. So I told it that it should finish its load test and message me when it's ready to watch TV. That's politics. A group of people had to make a decision, and we did. I made the decision and my partner accepted it, because my partner trusts me with political power and I place importance on my partner's needs.
(Also my partner does not yet know there is a new season of Prodigy. I'm planning to surprise it!)
No, it means I'm lying to them. If I say I don't agree with their politics, I'll get an ear full. If I lie and say I don't follow politics, I can diplomatically end that discussion branch. Grow up liberal in a conservative family and you'll get it. I'm not convincing these geezers of anything and I don't want to waste my social energy trying.
I grew up communist in a conservative family and I resolved the issue by having more patience and skill for debate than my parents.
Also try pulling out the "this is why I don't love you" on a reactionary parent. It cuts really deep š
Lol, I got shouted at for just recognizing Michael Moore. Besides, I've been masking so long, I've been invited to represent my county in state ag issues and I've been tilting things to recognise Climate Change.
Real
Join city council meetings and tell your city to adopt Ranked Choice Voting. This is often done through city charter amendment. Find your local RCV group and support them. Educate people about RCV what RCV is and what it is not. Keep it non-partisan. You donāt have to vote for somebody you donāt want to. That is also engaging in politics whether you like it or not.
That sounds terrible.
The good news: We have some small modicum of control.
The bad news: Control involves pain, disappointment, frustration, anger, and a whole bunch of mental anguish that people who don't pay attention to politics don't have to deal with.
I feel like the people who "don't pay attention" are the ones voting Trump.
It's designed that way!
Political apathy is a clear sign of unknown, unappreciated and unused privilege. Screw conservatives but at least they know the value of being able to vote and thus try to uphold this privilege by taking part in a society that allows them to take part in that way.
Dear Americans,
Yes, we do all know this and it's vitally important to form your own political opinions and also vote.
However, there's a very good reason we don't mention politics or religion in polite conversation, or nowadays, online
You will not change anyone's mind, no matter what you say or how you say it; there is absolutely no point in bringing your political opinions into threads about fuckin beans or ducks or any other subjects not based in politics or religion.
So fucking boring
I'm not interested in US politics
Get out there and vote on July 4th!
ā¤ļø
Nah it's just what we say when we want the shit lib or Reich winger to go preach their nonsense to something else.