Cheney says Trump is an 'unrecoverable catastrophe' in call for GOP to vote for Harris

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Former Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., a once-rising star in the GOP who fell out with her party over her criticism of Donald Trump, slammed the former president as an "unrecoverable catastrophe" in her call for other Republicans to vote against him this year.

"We see it on a daily basis, somebody who was willing to use violence in order to attempt to seize power, to stay in power, someone who represents unrecoverable catastrophe, frankly, in my view, and we have to do everything possible to ensure that he's not reelected," Cheney told "This Week" co-anchor Jonathan Karl.

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Liz has more guts than 99 % of all the other Republican politicians.

That means very little. She may have more guts, but she is just as much of a scum bag as anyone else in the GOP based on her voting record in Congress. She supported Trump's position over 90% of the time.

Cheney voted to impeach Trump and because of that she is persona non grata in the GOP so now she is opposed to Trump. She may even fear him getting in office and having her imprisoned. That doesn't make her a remotely good person. Fuck Liz Cheney. The enemy of your enemy may be a useful tool, but she is not your friend. Don't forget that.

At least she tries to oppose us through democratic means. But yes, she's still opposition. But I can argue with and sometimes even compromise with a democratic opposition. I can't do that with a fascist government.

Her family has been feuding with the Trumps since he started going on FOX to talk shit about the Iraq War in the mid-00s.

This isn't an issue of more guts. It's just politics of personal resentment. If DeSantis or Haley or Ted Cruz had been the nominee, they'd have been all on board despite these assholes sharing the same set of fascist policies and beliefs.

I'll take any help that saves democracy at this point. Every bit helps, one step at a time. Get rid of MAGA FIRST. You take the bus that gets you closest to your destination.

We're nearly at the point where Dems need to start running billboard ads like "your vote is yours and yours alone. No one can tell who you voted for".

Or you burn down all buses that lead to massive oppression and set themselves as your enemies by taking you towards genocide, border violence, police funding and massive military imperialism.

Good idea, when you have two busses burn them both down and pout about not being able to get anywhere.

Or build your own bus or kill the driver and drive the bus somewhere safe considering both drivers are plainly advertising they plan to run over pediatricians.

They want you to board the one going the exact opposite of your destination and burn the other.

Trump has me agreeing with a fucking Cheney. I hate this timeline.

You most likely agree with two separate Cheneys, fucking gross dude, go wash your life away.

He is the Chernobyl of men. He needs to be contained in a thousand-ton sarcophagus to protect future generations. Vote Harris/Walz/sarcophagus 2024.

Yeah! Only the Cheney's should be able to financially cripple middle and lower class America while making themselves rich. Policy-wise she backs pretty much everything Trump wants. She just doesn't like him being the one to do it because he makes Republicans look bad

I probably don't agree with her on a LOT. But I still respect her for having the balls to stand up to Trump and his MAGA cult and call them out for being a danger to democracy. All the other Republicans are a bunch of lil bitches willing to go along with fascism in exchange for tax cuts.

I have zero respect for a daughter who follows in her war criminal fathers footsteps. Trump is the DIRECT result of the RNC. He's their bigotry, lies, and ignorance congealed into human form. He's just Reagan but a worse liar and less competent. He's all the racism and homophobia without the subtly. She doesn't deserve your respect because if she was president she'd essentially do everything Trump has pushed. Even the danger to democracy isn't new. Republicans created the war on drugs to cause mass incarceration to keep certain groups from voting and jail undesirables.

Fascism in exchange for tax cuts has been the Republican motto for 60 years and she's been a willing participant. She's no different from the rest of the leopards ate my face crowd. Ousted by what she helped create. Fuck her

Then you are politically stupid.

The neocons losing power in the Republican Base represent a distinct advantage to your cause. Curry some temporary favor from the Neocons so that they elect Kamala this cycle.

That's all the Neocons want right now. For Trump to lose this year.

Politics isn't about the purity of your ideology, but instead about how many votes you can get. Each Neocon voting for Kamala is like gaining two votes: because they are the kind of people who would have otherwise solidly voted Republican this cycle.

Calling them out on their bullshit and taking their vote are not mutually exclusive. I don't have to kiss your ass because we need you to fix what you fucked up in the first place.

Fucked up?

It wasn't the Neocons (Bush, Cheney, McCain) who brought us into this Trump mess.

Yeah the fuck it was. The Republican party has been catering to racists and homophobes since the great switch. You think Trump just appeared in a vacuum?

Believe me when I say this: Neocons actually have principles (even if you don't agree with them. Though I'm pretty sure you agree with America should be the shining beacon for the world / pro-food stamps / etc. etc. kind of conservatism).

The fact remains: it's the Neocons who wish for Trump to be defeated the most. The Republican party's march away from policy and the dangerous stint of radical isolationism has harmed Neocons.

It's the treasonous Libertarian techbros, racists and MAGAts who you want defeated.

And you should cater favor from the Neocons, who largely want USA to stay active abroad and gain strength through diplomacy and policy.

We both agree on Ukraine (even if we disagree on Israel), and we likely agree on Taiwan. We likely agree on global trade and USA protecting it as well.

I'm not going to let Neocons try to rewrite history and pass the buck on Trump. If Neocons hate Trump so much why did Republicans like Nikki Haliey, Mitch McConnell, Lindsey Graham, and Ted Cruz immediately kiss Trump's ring the moment they realized he was going to win? The entire Republican party is responsible for Trump and they were the main party that stoked the fear of minorities and the disgust of the lgbtq community. Every Republican president candidate ran on brown ppl = criminals and gay ppl shouldnt have rights. You neocons had no problem voting in Tea Party candidates who were just a direct reaction to a black president and they were just Trump light. Neocons don't like Trump because he makes you ALL look bad. That's its. According to his policies the vast majority of Republicans believe in rewriting American history, cutting funding to anything that helps ppl, privatizing every government organization, forcing their religions moralsbon others, making anyone who's not a WASP life a living hell. I know this because Republicans have been doing it since NIXON. For fuck sake you had a mass of Republicans on state and federal levels arguing against providing free lunches to kids in school!

You are all responsible for Trump because of the Republican voting strategy of fall in line and vote for anyone with an R next to their name. You all picked party over country. Hopefully now you realized that's a stupid idea. Democrats will take your vote but I'm going to be super pissed if they start catering to a bunch of ppl who historically voted for ppl who made the lives of everyone who wasn't wealthy, white, Christian, and straight miserable.

Neocons have lost power to the Tea Party yo.

You're pretending like Paul Ryan didn't stand up to the Tea Part and get deposed. Or McCain get discredited as Trump rose up.

But sure, forget our political struggle at your own peril. You need us this election.

Two party system. The only real action Neocons have is to vote Republican or Democrat. Democrats are very much against our values (abortion, and historically Democrats were stupidly antiwar and this wouldn't have supported Ukraine. But I'm glad to see Democrats turn around on that. Etc. etc). But there's a lot of alignment now if you wish to take advantage.

Neocons are a subgroup of the Republican base you 100% should be trying to switch over. It's politically stupid to ignore this opportunity.