Dictatorship isn't Left

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I knew it, it's the cat.

That cat is Ultra-Hitler. He is 100 times more evil than regular Hitler.

You thought the total death toll of the Holocaust was bad? That evil kitty kills 10 million people each day. No dictator can even come to the fraction of his power.

Rupert Murdoch.

That monster's contribution to climate denial borders on apocalyptic - throw in extras like eroding democracy, stoking racial hatred, and contributions to class warfare like fighting off affordable access to to healthcare make him a tough one to beat.

temujin? who claims he's leftist?

Mao killed more.

Fortunately, he only killed Chinese people, and they don't mind, so we're all good.

Like personally? I often feel like attributing famines solely to one person is a bit messed up, although there are cases like Bengal where specific government individuals were enthusiastic .

The party later distanced themselves from him somewhat, so presumably they thought his ideas could be improved on but I had thought a lot of china and USSR famines rested on really dumb ideas about industrial agriculture that were popular in many places + officials hiding bad numbers + desperate need to show immediate superiority of alledgedly better numbers + upheavals of massive civil was and ww2.

He was a massive idiot, he personally decided agriculture was being eaten by birds, so he demanded every peasant kill a quota of birds.

They did, and were immediately hit by the largest locust infestation in modern history.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Pests_campaign

He killed 50 million Chinese purely because he was an epic moron with an incredible ego.

Realistically I'll have to look into this before trusting a random comment and I probably wont because it's half the world away from me and he's dead anyway.

I am sure there is some subtly in personal culpability though because between Mao and peasants killing birds was a whole bureaucracy that evidentally thought it was worth doing (and idk how much is slavish obedience/fear).

Temujin personally killed a lot of people. Like personally ordered the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people and his overall campaign was ~10% of human population at the time an estimated 40 million, which seems to be comparable to famine figures even if we personally blame both of them. Dude was a certified maniac and I think that especially given the overall lower population at the time and deliberate murderous intentions stands as histories greatest monster and most murderous person.

I assume this is referring to China. Ask anyone in China about their generous social benefits, which are even more paltry than in the US, and you'll see how "left" the Chinese "Communist" Party really is

I don't plan on visiting China anytime soon, but you seem knowledgeable in the subject; can you link me some sources? Thanks

Authoritarian left political positions are very real. What is this?

Authoritarian left... What is this?

It's an oxymoron. Authoritarianism is right-wing regardless of how the "authority" brands itself.

Left and right are generally agreed to be on the economic spectrum. Authoritarianism is not on this spectrum.

And thus the political compass came to be, deciding that one axis on a sliding scale wasn't enough to capture the nuances of political ideologies, but two axes was plenty!

The right claim that authoritarianism is a left-wing thing. I had an argument with someone who claimed that anarchocommunists could not possibly exist. You're bnoth wrong, authoritarianism is an orthogonal axis

In all of human history? Well, before the invention of money, I don’t know. But after the invention of money? Other humans.