Pay for millions of federal workers is at risk with a looming government shutdown
A shutdown that would halt pay for military families and government workers comes at a particularly precarious time for many households that are already struggling financially.
With six kids under the age of 15 to support, Stephen Booth, a police officer for the Air Force in Kansas, doesn’t have room in his budget for a missed paycheck.
But like millions of other government employees across the country, Booth is bracing for his pay to stop indefinitely at the end of the month as Congress careers toward a government shutdown.
House Republicans left Thursday unable to reach a compromise within their ranks over a new budget, including funds for the Defense Department, with a handful of conservative holdouts demanding additional spending cuts. Unless Congress acts, the federal government will not be able to pay its 4 million employees after Sept. 30.
The best part is congress will keep getting paid. So, no skin off their back shutting down the government.
Everything the government can't agree on laying its bills we should fire them all and elect an entirely new congress. It's completely unacceptable to be doing this every few years.
It’s even more fucked then that - none of the shitheads that are doing this actually urgently need their paycheck from their job.
The crazies that are causing this are all rich enough that they’d be fine if they got paid later once the shutdown is over. They don’t know the concept of living paycheck to paycheck, they’ve always had a pool of money in reserve.
Most do not make the majority of their money from their government paycheck. Wild how they can get elected and suddenly make millions.
Yeah, it's super scummy that people can do that. Happens to a good portion of congress people. A lot of insider trading going on too.
The need to pass the MCCARTHYS Act
Aka My Constituents Cannot Afford Rebellious Tantrum, Handle Your Shutdown Act,
Which would halt congressional pay during shutdown.
I thought you were being funny, but I did recall that there was a bill/act. So I went to look it and up and I had a facepalm moment.
https://craig.house.gov/media/press-releases/rep-angie-craig-introduces-mccarthy-shutdown-act-stop-member-pay-during
For anyone else wondering about the veracity.
What I find especially sickening is one of the prior times to this. Lawmakers or whatever were saying that they needed their salary because they had bills to pay. Completely tone-deaf. I can't find that person though, it's hard googling it with current events. I did see a list of those that rejected a paycheck the last time this happened:
https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/08/politics/congress-members-no-pay-shutdown/index.html
A mix of D and Rs.
To be honest, if I was making the name up, I’d have gone with “Shit” instead of “shutdown”. Just saying.
They should lose 1 paycheck for each day that the government is shutdown.
Conservatives don't want to pay federal workers anyway, they have stated they want to fire them all and end all regulation of businesses.
In Australia the Governor General would call a double dissolution of parliament where they all get fired and we have another election.
Looks like they need unions and contracts.
Not an option for many federal workers.
Right when they can afford it most!
Must be the last quarter of the year.
And where do most of them live? Virgina. Virgina has elections going on which will determine the make up of the state legislature. These people have little to do but vote.
Only a very limited set of the DoD shuts down when Congress doesn’t pass a budget. Efforts related to national security (which most of DoD falls under) continue regardless. A “police officer for the Air Force in Kansas” has little to worry about, even if he’s a contractor. National security functions continue when the government shuts down.
Also past shutdowns didn’t represent a “missed paycheck” for those affected, but rather a delayed one. Everyone got back-pay when past shutdowns ended. This isn’t a guarantee - Congress has to pass it as part of the spending bills - but it has always happened.
Millions of federal civilians and contractors will be furloughed during a shutdown, and that’s a very bad thing. But the military angle in this article is just plain false.
Many people are not in a position to have a delayed paycheck. It's not even remotely acceptable. If your angle is, calm down the military is required to keep working and only some of them will be impacted, you have the wrong angle.
I’m not remotely saying that it’s not a big deal for the people impacted. I’ve been one of those and it was horrible - you don’t get paid and you’re not allowed/don’t have time to go get another job (the longest shutdown so far was 34 days).
I’m saying that the author of this article hasn’t done their research, because while millions will be impacted by a shutdown, military families are largely not among them.
The military personnel will not be paid during the shutdown just like the government employees. DoD personnel that are emergency essential will have to keep working but that is a small fraction of the civilian workforce. Yes, everyone will be paid backpay (including furloughed civilians), but the point is that a lot of people cannot financially handle getting their paycheck late. Especially when there is no idea when the government will start back up.
Those military people are expected to keep working, but they do not get a paycheck for that work. They're still expected to commute to work every day, but with no money to do it.
Civilian employees will get it all paid back (so it's basically an extra paid vacation for them). With what most of them make (that I interact with), if they can't take responsibility for simple budgeting for a couple of weeks - that's their own shitty fault.
Should Congress not put us in this situation - absolutely! They need to loose all their pay (i.e. no later payback) for at least twice as long as the shutdown is. I know, won't matter to the vast majority of them.
Every one of those workers makes at least twice what I do working far less hard. I think I'll sleep fine knowing this.
You've fallen hook, line, and sinker for the conservative propaganda that all government workers are lazy. That's one excuse they promote to de-fund programs and entire departments so they can siphon the money off to private contractors to do the same work at double the rate.
WTF are you talking about? I'm working twice as hard as any government employee and getting nearly minimum wage. Fuck off.
Doubt.
Federal workers are paid significantly less than private sector employers for the same work.
Not really true.. the current issue is that contractors are paying damn near double for fed employees. Retention is a hugh deal in the gov.
No, go the fuck on and tell me what parts not true.
Federal employees are very underpaid for their positions and skill sets as compared to those who are employed privately. Everyone I know who works in the government are literally living paycheck to paycheck, but stay because of the job security. Federal employees arent the problem to say "fuck them" its those with bloated wallets who run the government that are the problem.
So, no, you have no basis whatsoever to say I'm wrong, cool.
So basically you have no idea what goes on in the government, but think that feds do nothing all day because someone said all feds are lazy? Its not the feds fault that you have a dead end job making minimum wage..