If the launch of these is anything like the original launch, I think I'll pass on this one too. That launch experience trying to get ahold of one really soured me on the PS5
Wait a second, you can add on the Bluray drive to the slim PS5? Meaning you're not locked in to an all-digital console, but you can still upgrade later? That's a great idea, why is no one talking about this?
Sony finally gets to join the ranks of add-on-disc-player consoles: the Sega Megadrive, the N64DD, and this... thing.
No one's talking about it because it costs $30 more than just buying the physical version outright
It really feels like a FOMO relief for people who want to go all digital. Just in case you want to get discs later.
In other words, Sony wants you to buy digital and don't worry so much about it.
Oh... then it's not that good of a deal. Cool tech, but not consumer friendly.
That's a great idea, why is no one talking about this?
Because why would you buy a digital PS5 and a blu ray drive when you can just buy the disc PS5 and not have to deal with an external blu ray drive?
Just in time for the only game Sony has put out to make owning a PS5 worthwhile! (Fingers crossed Spiderman 2 is as good as its predecessors.)
EDIT - To be clear, spoken as someone who was lucky enough to get a PS5 on day 1 and almost never uses it. I like the Xbox controller and UI much better and... there just aren't many good exclusives. And a lot of the ones that are good end up on other systems anyways.
You're not wrong. In a year where there are entirely too many great releases on all consoles, I've only played two on my PS5 (Street Fighter 6 & Final Fantasy XVI)
To be fair, FF16 is on my list of games to play... but like you said, too many great releases at once. I figure by the time I get around to it, maybe I can get a price break.
As a die-hard, I bought it Day 1 and got my $70 worth. But after I 100%'d it and looked at my recently played, I realized the only other game was Chicory which I played around Christmas time..
Not if you're willing to wait two years for it to come to PC.
Patient gamers gang rejoice!
Demon's Souls is the first souls game that I have ever completed, I think it is an astounding part of the ps5 catalogue. Also, currently going through Ghost of Tsushima PS5 edition and at 4k60 that game is incredible.
Those are 2 experiences that I loved that are only available on PS5.
Literally both games that came out on other consoles that the PS5 so you don't actually need a PS5 to play either of them.
Are you talking about the original Demon's Souls? From what I've heard, there are so many QOL improvements they can't really be treated as the same game.
Also, Ratchet and Clank made me happy to have a PS5 (at that time the PC release hadn't been announced).
there are so many QOL improvements they can’t really be treated as the same game.
there's a few, but it definitely doesn't make it a superior version or anything. Honestly Bluepoint did what Bluepoint does best and fucked with the lightning and color palette too much and the PS5 remake of Demon's Souls loses a lot of what made the original's aesthetic so great.
The PS3 version of DS is better than the PS5 one.
Why does it feel like every remake messes with lighting? As if making things brighter means it looks better. Halo CE is another that gets blasted for ruining the anesthetic of the original.
"Graphics:" are the only thing consoles can actively advertise on since "graphics" are the easiest thing to showcase in a screenshot or video.
It's why so many gamers whine and complain about "graphics" being the most importnat thing that determines whether they buy a game or not, which I find completely asinine.
Notice I put graphics in quotes a lot. That's because I distinctly and separating graphics/fidelity and art direction/aesthetic. I would much rather take a great game with a unique art style and lower fidelity over a game that has good fidelity, but a bog standard boring art direction and a color pallete of mostly browns and grays where 90% of the budget went to visuals and not the gameplay or content.
It's why I pretty much don't play modern AAA games. Year after year it's just the same crap rehashed in a slightly differnet $60 package. Why would I buy Call of Duty 26 or Open World Collectathon But This Time There's a Spider-Man Coat of Paint On It when I can play shit like Signalis or Crow Country or any of the Yakuza games or Nier or Antichamber or Death Stranding or Monster Hunter
I played through Demon's Souls on a ps3 emulator and then the PS5 version. The PS3 version with a 60fps+1440p mod is great but the new version is still worth getting a PS5 for imo
Can I see an OG PS5 next to it for scale? It's hard to visualize how much smaller it is.
Completely trivial point, but a non-USAist I don't think I'll ever stop finding the phrase "the Holiday Season" weird. If you mean Christmas because you want people to buy it as a Christmas present, then just say Christmas! I guess it's to be non-religious but I just find it funny to say "the holiday season" to mean winter when the season that everyone goes on holiday is summer.
In the US, there are multiple holidays people get together for. Halloween (to a lesser degree), Thanksgiving, Christmas (or Hanukkah), New Years. Extended families will often get together multiple times for these and then not see each other again until the next year. Thanksgiving really kicks off the retail season with black Friday, but there's also a lot of time off during the winter time from school and work.
It really is a season with Christmas at the center of it. A lot of our "Christmas" songs don't even mention Christmas. It's just songs about winter.
That much makes sense, but when it's companies releasing products they hope will be bought as Christmas presents then it's just odd to hear them skirting round the word "Christmas". Unless you guys buy each other PS5s for new year?
It's also somewhat inclusive of Lunar New Year and Diwali. More broadly, it's a public recognition that not everyone celebrates Christmas to make it clear they're accepting of diversity.
Maybe it's the Canadian in me, but I don't wish anyone a "Merry Christmas" unless maybe if I specifically know they celebrate Christmas; I almost always say "Happy Holidays!"
Yeah it makes sense, just sounds odd. Maybe it's because here in Britain Christmas is kind of a thing for everyone almost entirely independent of religion. Cultural differences and all that.
When I was a kid, it wasn't entirely uncommon to get a big gift during a random holiday get-together.
But I think "holidays" is more of a generic retail term used to get people to buy more and feel less limited.
I think it could also be cultural difference in the use of the word "holiday". In Britain a holiday is what you'd call vacation, whereas our bank holidays are what you'd call public holidays. We don't generally refer to Christmas and New Year as holidays, even though that's when you take time off work, because you're not "going on holiday".
I had no idea. I think that pretty much explains the confusion then.
I think of it like there's more than just Christmas being celebrated at the end of the year, so to include them all it's easier to just say the holiday season
Yeah I get it, it's just one of those phrases that sounds weird to the non-American ear
Where I live we have a bunch of small holidays in the spring. Winter only has the one big one. Spring seems more the season for them
In a lot of countries (Northern Hemisphere) Summer is the holiday season, but that has never been my experience in the US. So it might not be as strange from that perspective.
It is courteous to other religions by not assuming everyone is Christian, and doesn't hurt me at all, so why not?
As I said in another reply, yeah it makes sense, just sounds odd. Maybe it's because here in Britain Christmas is kind of a thing for everyone almost entirely independent of religion. Cultural differences and all that.
So this is a de facto price increase? From a manufacturer that just reported a record high annual profit? 175GB (the slightly increased storage) hasn't been worth $50 in years.
This generation sucks. I was already annoyed that we probably weren't going to see price drops with this or the Switch, but I certainly didn't see a price increase for an unproven hardware revision coming.
At least for the US, the price increase is just for digital version. And honestly, I'm certain the old digital had a profit margin hit in comparison to the disc drive version. It was probably worth it to lock people out of discs. This version will have a disc drive attachment option, so they've just given up on their all-digital endeavor.
Aside from that, $50 for 175 GB SSD isn't a great value. The extra 175GB SSD is a significant increase. And for the disc version, that's purely an upgrade.
Good to see all the rumors finally confirmed, feels like there's been speculation about a slim model since the PS5 launched. Hopefully, they've sorted out the worst of the supply issues and the PS5 Slim won't be as hard to find as the PS5 was when it first launched.
Sony doesn't even call it "PS5 Slim".
Not much reason to replace my current one, but many reasons to pick up OG console covers now if they're going to be phased out in November.
They literally just announced three more cover colors, (got the announcement email yesterday), I doubt they’ll phase them out that quickly. Even if they decide to go fast, I’d think they at least be smart enough to wait until after the holidays.
Saw that but these won't work on the new model so I doubt they make more. Unless of course they're for the revision but I don't know how that'd work with the new design.
I'm flashing back to Xbox 360 faceplates.
Would you normally replace a perfectly functional console with a smaller but otherwise identical machine? Do what you want with your own cash but that's a very decadent purchase!
Exactly- though I did trade up my OG PS2 for a slim back in the day. The OG had served its time (~5 years) and was ready to go.
If the launch of these is anything like the original launch, I think I'll pass on this one too. That launch experience trying to get ahold of one really soured me on the PS5
Wait a second, you can add on the Bluray drive to the slim PS5? Meaning you're not locked in to an all-digital console, but you can still upgrade later? That's a great idea, why is no one talking about this?
Sony finally gets to join the ranks of add-on-disc-player consoles: the Sega Megadrive, the N64DD, and this... thing.
No one's talking about it because it costs $30 more than just buying the physical version outright
It really feels like a FOMO relief for people who want to go all digital. Just in case you want to get discs later.
In other words, Sony wants you to buy digital and don't worry so much about it.
Oh... then it's not that good of a deal. Cool tech, but not consumer friendly.
Because why would you buy a digital PS5 and a blu ray drive when you can just buy the disc PS5 and not have to deal with an external blu ray drive?
@HarkMahlberg @Omegamanthethird that sounds something Sony would never allow
Just in time for the only game Sony has put out to make owning a PS5 worthwhile! (Fingers crossed Spiderman 2 is as good as its predecessors.)
EDIT - To be clear, spoken as someone who was lucky enough to get a PS5 on day 1 and almost never uses it. I like the Xbox controller and UI much better and... there just aren't many good exclusives. And a lot of the ones that are good end up on other systems anyways.
You're not wrong. In a year where there are entirely too many great releases on all consoles, I've only played two on my PS5 (Street Fighter 6 & Final Fantasy XVI)
To be fair, FF16 is on my list of games to play... but like you said, too many great releases at once. I figure by the time I get around to it, maybe I can get a price break.
As a die-hard, I bought it Day 1 and got my $70 worth. But after I 100%'d it and looked at my recently played, I realized the only other game was Chicory which I played around Christmas time..
Not if you're willing to wait two years for it to come to PC.
Patient gamers gang rejoice!
Demon's Souls is the first souls game that I have ever completed, I think it is an astounding part of the ps5 catalogue. Also, currently going through Ghost of Tsushima PS5 edition and at 4k60 that game is incredible.
Those are 2 experiences that I loved that are only available on PS5.
Literally both games that came out on other consoles that the PS5 so you don't actually need a PS5 to play either of them.
Are you talking about the original Demon's Souls? From what I've heard, there are so many QOL improvements they can't really be treated as the same game.
Also, Ratchet and Clank made me happy to have a PS5 (at that time the PC release hadn't been announced).
there's a few, but it definitely doesn't make it a superior version or anything. Honestly Bluepoint did what Bluepoint does best and fucked with the lightning and color palette too much and the PS5 remake of Demon's Souls loses a lot of what made the original's aesthetic so great.
The PS3 version of DS is better than the PS5 one.
Why does it feel like every remake messes with lighting? As if making things brighter means it looks better. Halo CE is another that gets blasted for ruining the anesthetic of the original.
"Graphics:" are the only thing consoles can actively advertise on since "graphics" are the easiest thing to showcase in a screenshot or video.
It's why so many gamers whine and complain about "graphics" being the most importnat thing that determines whether they buy a game or not, which I find completely asinine.
Notice I put graphics in quotes a lot. That's because I distinctly and separating graphics/fidelity and art direction/aesthetic. I would much rather take a great game with a unique art style and lower fidelity over a game that has good fidelity, but a bog standard boring art direction and a color pallete of mostly browns and grays where 90% of the budget went to visuals and not the gameplay or content.
It's why I pretty much don't play modern AAA games. Year after year it's just the same crap rehashed in a slightly differnet $60 package. Why would I buy Call of Duty 26 or Open World Collectathon But This Time There's a Spider-Man Coat of Paint On It when I can play shit like Signalis or Crow Country or any of the Yakuza games or Nier or Antichamber or Death Stranding or Monster Hunter
I played through Demon's Souls on a ps3 emulator and then the PS5 version. The PS3 version with a 60fps+1440p mod is great but the new version is still worth getting a PS5 for imo
Can I see an OG PS5 next to it for scale? It's hard to visualize how much smaller it is.
https://www.ign.com/articles/see-how-the-ps5-slim-compares-side-by-side-with-the-launch-version-and-xbox
Hermes confirms Barbados Slim is a mahogany god.
Completely trivial point, but a non-USAist I don't think I'll ever stop finding the phrase "the Holiday Season" weird. If you mean Christmas because you want people to buy it as a Christmas present, then just say Christmas! I guess it's to be non-religious but I just find it funny to say "the holiday season" to mean winter when the season that everyone goes on holiday is summer.
In the US, there are multiple holidays people get together for. Halloween (to a lesser degree), Thanksgiving, Christmas (or Hanukkah), New Years. Extended families will often get together multiple times for these and then not see each other again until the next year. Thanksgiving really kicks off the retail season with black Friday, but there's also a lot of time off during the winter time from school and work.
It really is a season with Christmas at the center of it. A lot of our "Christmas" songs don't even mention Christmas. It's just songs about winter.
That much makes sense, but when it's companies releasing products they hope will be bought as Christmas presents then it's just odd to hear them skirting round the word "Christmas". Unless you guys buy each other PS5s for new year?
It's also somewhat inclusive of Lunar New Year and Diwali. More broadly, it's a public recognition that not everyone celebrates Christmas to make it clear they're accepting of diversity.
Maybe it's the Canadian in me, but I don't wish anyone a "Merry Christmas" unless maybe if I specifically know they celebrate Christmas; I almost always say "Happy Holidays!"
Yeah it makes sense, just sounds odd. Maybe it's because here in Britain Christmas is kind of a thing for everyone almost entirely independent of religion. Cultural differences and all that.
When I was a kid, it wasn't entirely uncommon to get a big gift during a random holiday get-together.
But I think "holidays" is more of a generic retail term used to get people to buy more and feel less limited.
I think it could also be cultural difference in the use of the word "holiday". In Britain a holiday is what you'd call vacation, whereas our bank holidays are what you'd call public holidays. We don't generally refer to Christmas and New Year as holidays, even though that's when you take time off work, because you're not "going on holiday".
I had no idea. I think that pretty much explains the confusion then.
I think of it like there's more than just Christmas being celebrated at the end of the year, so to include them all it's easier to just say the holiday season
Yeah I get it, it's just one of those phrases that sounds weird to the non-American ear
Where I live we have a bunch of small holidays in the spring. Winter only has the one big one. Spring seems more the season for them
In a lot of countries (Northern Hemisphere) Summer is the holiday season, but that has never been my experience in the US. So it might not be as strange from that perspective.
It is courteous to other religions by not assuming everyone is Christian, and doesn't hurt me at all, so why not?
As I said in another reply, yeah it makes sense, just sounds odd. Maybe it's because here in Britain Christmas is kind of a thing for everyone almost entirely independent of religion. Cultural differences and all that.
So this is a de facto price increase? From a manufacturer that just reported a record high annual profit? 175GB (the slightly increased storage) hasn't been worth $50 in years.
This generation sucks. I was already annoyed that we probably weren't going to see price drops with this or the Switch, but I certainly didn't see a price increase for an unproven hardware revision coming.
At least for the US, the price increase is just for digital version. And honestly, I'm certain the old digital had a profit margin hit in comparison to the disc drive version. It was probably worth it to lock people out of discs. This version will have a disc drive attachment option, so they've just given up on their all-digital endeavor.
Aside from that, $50 for 175 GB SSD isn't a great value. The extra 175GB SSD is a significant increase. And for the disc version, that's purely an upgrade.
Good to see all the rumors finally confirmed, feels like there's been speculation about a slim model since the PS5 launched. Hopefully, they've sorted out the worst of the supply issues and the PS5 Slim won't be as hard to find as the PS5 was when it first launched.
Sony doesn't even call it "PS5 Slim".
Not much reason to replace my current one, but many reasons to pick up OG console covers now if they're going to be phased out in November.
They literally just announced three more cover colors, (got the announcement email yesterday), I doubt they’ll phase them out that quickly. Even if they decide to go fast, I’d think they at least be smart enough to wait until after the holidays.
Saw that but these won't work on the new model so I doubt they make more. Unless of course they're for the revision but I don't know how that'd work with the new design.
I'm flashing back to Xbox 360 faceplates.
Would you normally replace a perfectly functional console with a smaller but otherwise identical machine? Do what you want with your own cash but that's a very decadent purchase!
Exactly- though I did trade up my OG PS2 for a slim back in the day. The OG had served its time (~5 years) and was ready to go.
This guy made a slimmer one. He cheated with the cooling, yes – but still – not bad for just one guy.
Most of the extra size is from cooling. So it's not surprising that someone could make it slimmer by messing with that.