Wow I didn't know they were going to recover it at all. Pretty cool. Can't wait to read about how shitty the design was.
I mean, it’s well known by this point. But a “seconds from disaster” version of it would be interesting to watch as disaster porn.
This is haunting.
There's no gore or anything, it's just twisted metal and cables. Still, seeing it and thinking "humans were alive in there mere days ago" made my gut drop. It's not like looking at wreckage of an old ship or plane or something, it's different. Because it's so small, it feels more intimate. Like looking at a coffin vs looking at a graveyard
The death of one man is a tragedy, the death of millions is a statistic
Omg so tru.
*Comits genocide
Wow so deep /s
So Holocaust is not a tragedy? That's what you're saying?
No, it's just a common saying that shows how people react to this sort of news. It's a bit cynical but not untrue.
Hoho!
u/seesaw is looking for a reason to fight.
It's a common saying you buffoon.
"common saying"
How the fuck is that a common saying? That's a quote attributed to genocidal Stalin and it's a complete bullshit statement. Whoever repeats a moronic statement (and also very wrong) is also a moron. Death of millions is not just a statistics, it's a much bigger tragedy.
Edgy idiots trying to be cool with statements of dictators
Well i don't assign its meaning. I'm just informing of what that phrase is. If anything. You're the one appearing to be edgy with your unchecked emotion and tone of replies.
Yeah sorry for my "unchecked emotion" for my ancestors getting slaughtered in concentration camps and you call it "just a statistics"
The death of a billionaire however, is hilarious 🤣
The death of 4 is aquatic praxis
How is the death of anyone hilarious? Does it matter how much you have in your pocket book which will determine the level of hilarity to you? That's cold. I surely hope you have more empathy in person.
They are probably very young. People get less extreme in their views as they grow older (usually).
just more complacent to the poor state of humanity due to a lack of energy to change, or because the old benefit from the status quo.
Weren't the occupants cremated instantly?
I would go with creamed.
Diluted
since they were in the water
Like corn in a can.
Superheated then liquidised and dispersed like chum
Both titanium support rings were recovered intact. These are what bonded the carbon fiber hull to the titanium ends. There isn't any evidence of carbon fiber still attached in the photos/ videos of the debris.
So the front AND the back fell off? Is that normal?
Doesn't matter, it happened outside of the environment.
From your link it seems that even the front titanium hemisphere is still relatively intact.
These are the non-pressurised systems that would have gotten the least damage most likely.
Ya the only damage would be from the implosion and shrapnel. Everything else was sitting at the same pressure, so there's nothing really going on to cause damage.
It's weird seeing huge pieces that look relatively undamaged. Looks like you can just throw that frame with all the electronics in the spare parts bin and call it a day lol
Interesting - I had imagined it being imploded into bits like the simulations on the news show.
I believe this is the outer portion. The carbon fiber shell imploded and is probably not recoverable.
I'm certainly no expert but I understand submarines have an inner and outer hull. The inner hull has to withstand the pressure of the deep but the outer hull does not. The inner hull would be crushed into bits but the outer hull and any equipment in-between would likely be ripped into large chunks as such a violent event occurs inside of it.
Subs have dual hulls so they can fill the void between them with water to sink, or air to float, but they don’t dive anywhere near as deep. Most regular naval subs operate above 800 meters. They only have to be below the surface of the water for stealth, not at the bottom of the ocean.
This craft was a single hull design as far as I’m aware, designed with a rigid hull to try and counteract the pressure at the bottom.
The outer shell didn't hold pressure and was there to cover wires/ equipment exposed outside the pressure vessel.
like the simulations on the news show
Why would you put any faith in a simulation by an organization that has no knowledge of the domain?
I wonder if they recovered the Xbox controller?
Controllers like that are used on nuclear attack submarines aswell so that is not the issue even though it might seem funny to someone not familiar with this stuff.
Those companies have made billions of them over several decades. It's much more reliable to go with a one like that than to develop a new one from scratch. Submarines don't implode because it was steered by a logitech controller
Nuclear subs do not however use them for propulsion. Something like a very basic input delay or other Bluetooth issue could be catastrophic.
In a video I heard the CEO say they have spare ones on hand, just in case. But still, having my life depend on a Bluetooth device seems just wrong. Why not go with a direct cable? Much less to go wrong!
I don't disagree. I almost refuse to use even wireless headphones myself.
However all the fail-safes on the sub were quite decent in my opinion so the controller isn't really life-critical. The issue was that none of the safety features protects you from far exceeding the rated maximum dive depth. They probably didn't know what hit them.
It was a Logitech controller. I guess he couldn't spring for the pricier Xbox controller.
Have you priced one of those Pro Controllers?
Can we share Bezos in the next batch of billionaires?
Wow I didn't know they were going to recover it at all. Pretty cool. Can't wait to read about how shitty the design was.
I mean, it’s well known by this point. But a “seconds from disaster” version of it would be interesting to watch as disaster porn.
This is haunting.
There's no gore or anything, it's just twisted metal and cables. Still, seeing it and thinking "humans were alive in there mere days ago" made my gut drop. It's not like looking at wreckage of an old ship or plane or something, it's different. Because it's so small, it feels more intimate. Like looking at a coffin vs looking at a graveyard
The death of one man is a tragedy, the death of millions is a statistic
Omg so tru. *Comits genocide
Wow so deep /s
So Holocaust is not a tragedy? That's what you're saying?
No, it's just a common saying that shows how people react to this sort of news. It's a bit cynical but not untrue.
Hoho!
u/seesaw is looking for a reason to fight.
It's a common saying you buffoon.
"common saying"
How the fuck is that a common saying? That's a quote attributed to genocidal Stalin and it's a complete bullshit statement. Whoever repeats a moronic statement (and also very wrong) is also a moron. Death of millions is not just a statistics, it's a much bigger tragedy.
Edgy idiots trying to be cool with statements of dictators
Well i don't assign its meaning. I'm just informing of what that phrase is. If anything. You're the one appearing to be edgy with your unchecked emotion and tone of replies.
Yeah sorry for my "unchecked emotion" for my ancestors getting slaughtered in concentration camps and you call it "just a statistics"
The death of a billionaire however, is hilarious 🤣
The death of 4 is aquatic praxis
How is the death of anyone hilarious? Does it matter how much you have in your pocket book which will determine the level of hilarity to you? That's cold. I surely hope you have more empathy in person.
Easily......
I truly hope you people are not being serious..
They are probably very young. People get less extreme in their views as they grow older (usually).
just more complacent to the poor state of humanity due to a lack of energy to change, or because the old benefit from the status quo.
Weren't the occupants cremated instantly?
I would go with creamed.
Diluted
since they were in the water
Like corn in a can.
Superheated then liquidised and dispersed like chum
Both titanium support rings were recovered intact. These are what bonded the carbon fiber hull to the titanium ends. There isn't any evidence of carbon fiber still attached in the photos/ videos of the debris.
Edit: more photos
So the front AND the back fell off? Is that normal?
Doesn't matter, it happened outside of the environment.
From your link it seems that even the front titanium hemisphere is still relatively intact.
These are the non-pressurised systems that would have gotten the least damage most likely.
Ya the only damage would be from the implosion and shrapnel. Everything else was sitting at the same pressure, so there's nothing really going on to cause damage.
It's weird seeing huge pieces that look relatively undamaged. Looks like you can just throw that frame with all the electronics in the spare parts bin and call it a day lol
Whats the source?
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/22848348/first-pics-wreckage-titanic-sub/?utm_source=youtube&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sunyoutubestories
Without the tracking... source
FYI you formatted the link backwards and it didn't work. Links should be formatted as
Correct link is source
Interesting - I had imagined it being imploded into bits like the simulations on the news show.
I believe this is the outer portion. The carbon fiber shell imploded and is probably not recoverable.
I'm certainly no expert but I understand submarines have an inner and outer hull. The inner hull has to withstand the pressure of the deep but the outer hull does not. The inner hull would be crushed into bits but the outer hull and any equipment in-between would likely be ripped into large chunks as such a violent event occurs inside of it.
Subs have dual hulls so they can fill the void between them with water to sink, or air to float, but they don’t dive anywhere near as deep. Most regular naval subs operate above 800 meters. They only have to be below the surface of the water for stealth, not at the bottom of the ocean.
This craft was a single hull design as far as I’m aware, designed with a rigid hull to try and counteract the pressure at the bottom.
The outer shell didn't hold pressure and was there to cover wires/ equipment exposed outside the pressure vessel.
Why would you put any faith in a simulation by an organization that has no knowledge of the domain?
I wonder if they recovered the Xbox controller?
Controllers like that are used on nuclear attack submarines aswell so that is not the issue even though it might seem funny to someone not familiar with this stuff.
Those companies have made billions of them over several decades. It's much more reliable to go with a one like that than to develop a new one from scratch. Submarines don't implode because it was steered by a logitech controller
Nuclear subs do not however use them for propulsion. Something like a very basic input delay or other Bluetooth issue could be catastrophic.
In a video I heard the CEO say they have spare ones on hand, just in case. But still, having my life depend on a Bluetooth device seems just wrong. Why not go with a direct cable? Much less to go wrong!
I don't disagree. I almost refuse to use even wireless headphones myself.
However all the fail-safes on the sub were quite decent in my opinion so the controller isn't really life-critical. The issue was that none of the safety features protects you from far exceeding the rated maximum dive depth. They probably didn't know what hit them.
It was a Logitech controller. I guess he couldn't spring for the pricier Xbox controller.
Have you priced one of those Pro Controllers?
Can we share Bezos in the next batch of billionaires?
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