Matt Gaetz is Not Worried About Trump Losing Women Voters: ‘For Every Karen We Lose, There’s a Julio and a Jamal Ready’

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Matt Gaetz is Not Worried About Trump Losing Women Voters: ‘For Every Karen We Lose, There’s a Julio and a Jamal Ready’
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How tf this rapist outta jail

Do you remember the Senator's pedophile son in Sin City? Well look no further than the literal Senator's son Gaetz.

Posted this last night:

He's my Congressman, been following this from day-1. Nothing is going to happen, or it already would have.

His dirtbag friend, who was supposed to roll on conviction, was convicted, and did not. The girl in question, 17 at the time, is now an adult with an OnlyFans site. Not a good look for the prosecution, and she refuses to testify.

If you were paying attention in NW Florida, Gaetz STFU real quick while under investigation. Suddenly, The Mouth from the South was at it again. He's safe. He knows it.

This "investigation" is another stab at him since he's been acting the ass. Maybe they got an angle on him this time, but don't hold your breath.

Sorry folks. He's skating this. The man is certainly guilty of far more than fucking a girl <365 days from adulthood, but we got nothing that sticks.

Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-FL) told Newsmax that "for every Karen we lose, there's a Julio and a Jamal ready to sign up for the MAGA movement" in 2024.

Isn't this just racism and sexism directed at everybody? He just called white non-MAGA Republican women "Karens" while simultaneously using Hispanic names in a backhandedly insulting way.

Jamal is Arabic but yes

Well now.....you learn something new every day. Thanks for that.

(I work in a school district with an overwhelmingly Hispanic population. There are over 50 kids in my district with the first name Jamal and only one of them has an Arabic last name. Most of the others have Hispanic last names. I never knew the name was actually Arabic in origin.)

That's interesting too! I live in West Los Angeles and the only Jamal I know is Iranian. Looking online though, except for the murdered journalist Jamal Kashoggi, I'm seeing mostly Black sports stars. So, still racist, as expected.

Fortunately, Gaetz is rarely correct about anything.

Recap on what has occurred recently in consensual reality due to the #GOP rejecting women:

Nationwide, Democrats are beating polls by 9+ points at the ballot box since Roe v. Wade was overturned.

GOP has lost 13 of their last 15 special elections, even in "red" states.

State GOP groups are going bankrupt in an election year.

The unfortunate truth is, all that doesn't matter if the Electoral College utterly fails at its ONE job yet again and picks the loser. Republicans will userp power wether we want them to or not if that happens. They need to be treated as the enemies of the state they are, or else we're fucked.

all that doesn't matter if the Electoral College utterly fails succeeds at its ONE job yet again and picks the loser.

FTFY

They're supposed to protect from terrible leaders, not simply to pick the loser. Electing Trump was the perfect demonstration of how the entire concept is utterly and completely flawed.

He should've been able to win the popular vote and still should have been ignored by the Electoral College. Instead, the exact opposite happened. They're worse than useless.

The electoral college exists to subvert the popular vote whenever the choice of the rural minority is behind. It would have no reason to exist otherwise. It has no duty to "ignore" any outcome and nothing to do with the quality of leadership besides their ability to campaign to low density populations.

Yea, it's effectively a tool of disenfranchisement, but the point is it was pitched as a safety mechanism from the "dumb plebs", yet it has done the exact opposite.

It wasn't the plebs that put Trump in office. The point I'm making is it literally has zero upsides.

The point I'm making is it literally has zero upsides.

Then we're literally making the same point. There is no reason to argue here.

We're making the same point, but you're using terrible logic to do so.

That's funny, I thought the same thing about you. I just didn't feel the need to shit on you for it.

Is this the argument you wanted? Are we supposed to be getting something out of this?

You're making a claim from an offensive perspective. Anyone who doesn't ALREADY agree with your premise is just going to fight you on calling the idea a plan of disenfranchisement.

You have to CONVINCE someone you're right, not just declare it so... You use bad arguments for people who do not already agree with you. Now grow the fuck up and take criticism like an adult.

Hold on. You understand that adding FTFY to a comment is not a criticism of said comment? I was just adding to your commentary and you somehow took issue with that.

I genuinely don't even know what we're arguing about, what I said that was so offensive, or why you're so heated over it. I'm not trying to convince you of anything or make an argument, in fact we seem to already agree with each other. The electoral college was sold as something that it never actually was in practice. All I basically said is we might as well call it for what it effectively is, and stop pretending it was ever meant to be something it has never actually been. If you still manage to have an issue with that then I honestly really don't care to sit here and argue about the semantics of it and be constantly insulted along the way. Also, I didn't even say the disenfranchisement part, you did.

I really don't think you have any room here to tell me to act like an adult. I didn't even criticize you and you just started hurling personal attacks at me, insisting I defend something I didn't even come here to do. That's not "criticism" lol, and it surely isn't acting like an "adult", whatever the fuck that means 😂 I was literally just making a joke and you decided to turn it into a debate. A one-sided one, because like I've said in 3 successive comments now, I do not know what your problem is.

Anyways, hope your day gets better because I really don't think that whatever you're upset about has anything to do with me.

Nationwide, Democrats are beating polls by 9+ points at the ballot box since Roe v. Wade was overturned.

Nitpick: Nationwide polls don't matter. This race is again going to come down to a few tens of thousands of votes in a handful of swing states, and in those states, Trump is either much closer or actually in the lead.

You're missing the point. Their current polling for those places is also skewed.

The Michigan GOP is out of cash. Michigan is very much a purple/battleground state.

I really hope this is the death knell of the GOP. At this point, it needs to die. If our idiotic fucking political system was less focused on maintaining the two-party dynamic, that’d be great too, but at this point I’m just gonna call it a win if we can stop the Nazis from getting into office.

Yah I thought we were ready for a Bernie Sanders but turns out what we actually need at the moment is a call to the fire department to put out the dumpster fire

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The article is a couple days old. Ironically Republicans interpreted his comments as a form of DEI and turned on him

https://www.mediaite.com/politics/far-right-turns-on-matt-gaetz-for-encouraging-racial-diversity-in-maga-movement-extremely-embarrassing/

Dei?

Diversity, equity, and inclusion. It's an overall banner for corporate initiatives to avoid being as racist and sexist etc as they have previously been.

This of course seen as a horrifying affront to a bunch of white men who formerly benefitted from the racism and sexism.

You can guess which party is on which side of the debate.

For every pedo rapist politician there is... Another one or more that are just as bad?

The amount of propaganda that right-trash spews into S Florida is nuts. And those folks are pretty helpless against it as they cannibalize their own fairly regularly.

This is the one circumstance in which I'd be proud to be called a Karen.

"There's a sucker born every minute."

- David Hannum (not P.T. Barnum)

After 2020 and 2022, I'm just waiting for this sudden change of heart from traditionally strong Democratic demographics.. Seems like copium from Gaetz.

Copium: in 2016, Trump got 6% of black voters. In 2020, he got 8%. That's a 33% increase in just 4 years. Hispanic votes went from 28% Trump to 38%, so a similar 35% increase. With another 35% increase, he's on track to get a majority of Hispanic voters in 2024 and, I dunno, maybe 110% of black votes?

And yet, the the net-margin of victory widened between 2016 and 2020. Which speaks to fallacies of statistics and "doubling" of percentages of tiny numbers.

In spite of traditionally losing midterms because of lack of youth turnout, a 2022 midterm during terrible economic conditions still saw Democrats victorious over what was supposed to be a Red Wave.

Fair point on the Hispanic population, but: The key question when it comes to Hispanic voters is where that rise in support is. We know, for example, that Cuban-Americans in Florida overwhelmingly skew Republican; that doesn't particularly change the outcome. We know, too, that Texas state rhetoric has made inroads with the Hispanic population there who've now opted to shut the door behind them. But again, we never expected nor need much from Texas either. So it comes down to states like Nevada to see the impact of the remaining subset of the Hispanic population which yes, will be close.