Well, thanks to Dwanye for becoming an arrogant coward at the exact time people need voices like his to help build up Democracy ideals.
His take is avoidance because he arrogantly thinks his previous endorsement of Biden caused division in America. That's wild.
The Audacity of This Bitch.
wow, the hits just keep on coming. Has anyone heard from the Shamwow guy or maybe Rob Schneider? Their opinions are crucial.
Well, Schneider is making content for daily wire now.. so his opinion should be obvious.
I saw part of his comedy special... conservative comedy is just awful
"Can somebody please find Ja Rule, get a hold of this motherfucker so I can make sense of all this? Where is Ja?"
Well now he's dead to me. I thought he was a logical thinking human being. What an absolute moron. Not voting for Biden is a vote for the bad guys and fascism/monarchy
He probably will still vote for Biden but he doesn't want to endorse him because he wants that sweet sweet Maga bucks. I liked him too, fuck this greedy coward now.
Pretty sure only a vote for bad guys is a vote for bad guys. I don't think the election officials tally up non votes or votes for other people.
The problem with your reply is that you're focusing on a single tree and missing the entire forest around it.
If you just take the words only at face value, then yes, I suppose you're right. However, apathy ABSOLUTELY loses people elections, which is what the spirit of my statement for all intents and purposes actually says. That's why we got suck with Trump in the first place - people were lukewarm on Hilary and mad that Bernie wasn't the candidate. They decided NOT to vote, and the crazy kook republicans always vote, so we got stuck with trump.
My comment stands and is accurate.
In this scenario, bidens a relatively neutral candidate other than Israel, his age and ICE, though he’s better than his presumptive opponent about all three (trumps in worse shape, even if he’s younger).
What if he were a much worse candidate? If Biden were exactly like trump in every way, except, say, he was super supportive of POWs, would it be our duty to vote for him?
This is not a gotcha, though I know it sounds like one. Obviously there’s a scenario in which the other side (assuming they hold their view earnestly) would vote for an okay, but not ideal candidate (for example, I know a bunch of anticapitalists who were ready to vote for Bernie in 2016, had that been an option, even though he does at his core seem to support a capitalist system with more guardrails in place), so it’s entirely reasonable for you to be generally okay for voting for the lesser of two evils and still have a line you won’t cross.
Good candidates don't build voter apathy.
Good voters don't get apathetic, they understand what's truly at stake because they see the forest, not just a single tree.
It's our duty to vote, even if we have to vote for the lesser of two evils.
Good voters don't vote against their principles or self-interests. Ironically, you are breaking democracy by trying to force people to vote for candidates they don't like; in a democracy, you vote for someone, not against them.
Any democracy that forces people to choose between a genocide-enabler and a rapist genocide-enabler isn't a democracy worth saving. It's the logical conclusion to the "experiment" and hopefully future generations can learn something from it, but you're kidding yourself if you think that this is the election that will decide things once and for all, rather than just postponing things back another 4 years.
You're wrong, mate, and I hope you realize that before it's time to go to the urns.
isn't a democracy worth saving
I hope you will take a bit of time to really think through this part of your comment. If you truly think this, then I have nothing more to discuss with you. This is part of the larger problem.
We're forced due to our shitty first-past-the-post voting system to vote one of two ways, vote against the worst guy in your opinion, or abstain from voting and not contribute at all.
We're voting between
an extremely old guy who hasn't been everyone's favorite in many areas, but arguably has done a LOT of good things in his time as President - and
an extremely old guy who is a rapist, racketeering liar and a con man who only cares about self preservation, and fleecing you for every buck you're worth to bankroll his court costs for running up (so far) nearly 100 state and federal felonies. He also is fiercely delaying his trials so he can corruptly make it go away so that Justice isn't carried out, because he should be King and completely above the law. Not to mention his party ACTUALLY cheats at election through intimidation, voter suppression, gerrymandering, and misinformation campaigns.
How could someone even think that's not a no-brainer decision? I'm not forcing anyone to do anything, what I'm saying is that I believe people that aren't making the obvious right choice here are part of the problem. Bad guys standing next to bad guys, ignorant/brainless/brainwashed Republicans and abstinent voters. Might as well be the same person if you're not helping to remedy this clear issue with your vote.
Just my opinion, but I know it's shared with many that clearly align with doing the right thing this November.
I'm challenging the collective "you" to do the right thing, regardless of your political affiliation. The game has two participants and only one can be the winner. Don't inject extra complexity here. Do the right thing. That's it. Should be a super easy choice.
More importantly, has anyone asked Ja Rule who he's endorsing?
Who the fuck cares? Fuck what the rock thinks.
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT THE ROCK THINKS!
So he's a piece of shit coward more interested in making money than helping his country, got it.
It sure would be nice if the political opinions of an actor wasn't important enough to report on.
IT DOESNT MATTER WHAT THE ROCK THINKS!
IT ONLY MATTERS WHAT THE ROCK IS COOKING!
He is complaining about wokeness. Gee, I wonder who he is voting for?
He's no different than millions of us that see another geriatric corporate owned genocide enabling POS
Asked if he was happy with the state of America right now, Johnson replied, “No.”
“Today’s cancel culture, woke culture, division, etcetera — that really bugs me,” he added.
Yeah. That woke culture. terrible. The division. Imagine singling people out for being fascists.
If you ever cared what that absolue cunt is rhinking i feel bad for you.
I am just shocked that he isn't running for president.
I'm saving mine for Dwayne...
Elizondo Mountain Dew Camacho.
He has my vote any and every day! Brought to you by Carl's Jr.
“The endorsement that I made years ago with Biden was one I thought was the best decision for me at that time,” he told Will Cain on Fox News in an interview posted online Friday. “I thought, ‘I’m in this position where I have some influence and I felt it was my job then to exercise my influence [and] share: This is who I’m going to endorse.’ I’m not going to do that. I was then, the most followed man in the world, and am today, and I appreciate that … but what that caused was something that tears me up in my guts — which is division. That got me. I didn’t realize that then, I just felt like there was a lot of unrest and I’d like things to calm down.”
He's saying he won't endorse Biden because he knows it's a divisive topic, not because he's a right-wing asshole like the others. Also, I think it's a good example of being self-aware enough to realize he has this massive following and a lot of power, and being responsible enough to consider that merely his opinions can sway a lot of people at once. It's an uplifting perspective from a celebrity, imho.
“Democracy is under attack but I’ve got a lot of influence so I should just stay quiet and use it to sell energy drinks instead.”
Cool take.
And he makes all his money on young impressionable males who care A LOT about their physique. I wonder which political demographic that affects...
Not taking a stance because that stance would be divisive is not a good argument.
People keep saying this, but I think you're all impossible to please. There are three general positions he could take
Endorse Biden
Don't endorse anybody (The Rock's current position)
Endorse Trump (Rob Schneider is here)
Somehow, for so many armchair political scientists on Lemmy, the 2nd and 3rd positions are indistinguishable from each other. And then the 1st position is an endorsement of genocide Joe. Democracy matters and genocide is bad therefore Biden is a bad candidate. And if you're not for Biden, then you're for Trump. But if you're not explicitly for Biden, then you're for also Trump. But if really cared about democracy and civility then must be for Biden, and openly, because Trump is just worse. But fuck Biden because genocide is bad.
This is nonsensical and impossible. What the hell is an acceptable stance on these issues?
Actually, I couldn't care less. Go square that circle with someone else. The Rock is as right as he's going to be by not explicitly supporting Biden or Trump because he doesn't want to cause division.
I did not equate endorsing nobody to endorsing Trump, so you can fuck off with that in a reply to me.
Genocide support is an American problem, not the acts of one President. If you think not voting for Biden will lead to less genocides/wars, you might want to double check that.
Well, thanks to Dwanye for becoming an arrogant coward at the exact time people need voices like his to help build up Democracy ideals.
His take is avoidance because he arrogantly thinks his previous endorsement of Biden caused division in America. That's wild.
The Audacity of This Bitch.
wow, the hits just keep on coming. Has anyone heard from the Shamwow guy or maybe Rob Schneider? Their opinions are crucial.
Well, Schneider is making content for daily wire now.. so his opinion should be obvious.
I saw part of his comedy special... conservative comedy is just awful
"Can somebody please find Ja Rule, get a hold of this motherfucker so I can make sense of all this? Where is Ja?"
Well now he's dead to me. I thought he was a logical thinking human being. What an absolute moron. Not voting for Biden is a vote for the bad guys and fascism/monarchy
He probably will still vote for Biden but he doesn't want to endorse him because he wants that sweet sweet Maga bucks. I liked him too, fuck this greedy coward now.
Pretty sure only a vote for bad guys is a vote for bad guys. I don't think the election officials tally up non votes or votes for other people.
The problem with your reply is that you're focusing on a single tree and missing the entire forest around it.
If you just take the words only at face value, then yes, I suppose you're right. However, apathy ABSOLUTELY loses people elections, which is what the spirit of my statement for all intents and purposes actually says. That's why we got suck with Trump in the first place - people were lukewarm on Hilary and mad that Bernie wasn't the candidate. They decided NOT to vote, and the crazy kook republicans always vote, so we got stuck with trump.
My comment stands and is accurate.
In this scenario, bidens a relatively neutral candidate other than Israel, his age and ICE, though he’s better than his presumptive opponent about all three (trumps in worse shape, even if he’s younger).
What if he were a much worse candidate? If Biden were exactly like trump in every way, except, say, he was super supportive of POWs, would it be our duty to vote for him?
This is not a gotcha, though I know it sounds like one. Obviously there’s a scenario in which the other side (assuming they hold their view earnestly) would vote for an okay, but not ideal candidate (for example, I know a bunch of anticapitalists who were ready to vote for Bernie in 2016, had that been an option, even though he does at his core seem to support a capitalist system with more guardrails in place), so it’s entirely reasonable for you to be generally okay for voting for the lesser of two evils and still have a line you won’t cross.
Good candidates don't build voter apathy.
Good voters don't get apathetic, they understand what's truly at stake because they see the forest, not just a single tree.
It's our duty to vote, even if we have to vote for the lesser of two evils.
@kmartburrito @PP_BOY_ I agree
Good voters don't vote against their principles or self-interests. Ironically, you are breaking democracy by trying to force people to vote for candidates they don't like; in a democracy, you vote for someone, not against them.
Any democracy that forces people to choose between a genocide-enabler and a rapist genocide-enabler isn't a democracy worth saving. It's the logical conclusion to the "experiment" and hopefully future generations can learn something from it, but you're kidding yourself if you think that this is the election that will decide things once and for all, rather than just postponing things back another 4 years.
You're wrong, mate, and I hope you realize that before it's time to go to the urns.
I hope you will take a bit of time to really think through this part of your comment. If you truly think this, then I have nothing more to discuss with you. This is part of the larger problem.
We're forced due to our shitty first-past-the-post voting system to vote one of two ways, vote against the worst guy in your opinion, or abstain from voting and not contribute at all.
We're voting between
an extremely old guy who hasn't been everyone's favorite in many areas, but arguably has done a LOT of good things in his time as President - and
an extremely old guy who is a rapist, racketeering liar and a con man who only cares about self preservation, and fleecing you for every buck you're worth to bankroll his court costs for running up (so far) nearly 100 state and federal felonies. He also is fiercely delaying his trials so he can corruptly make it go away so that Justice isn't carried out, because he should be King and completely above the law. Not to mention his party ACTUALLY cheats at election through intimidation, voter suppression, gerrymandering, and misinformation campaigns.
How could someone even think that's not a no-brainer decision? I'm not forcing anyone to do anything, what I'm saying is that I believe people that aren't making the obvious right choice here are part of the problem. Bad guys standing next to bad guys, ignorant/brainless/brainwashed Republicans and abstinent voters. Might as well be the same person if you're not helping to remedy this clear issue with your vote.
Just my opinion, but I know it's shared with many that clearly align with doing the right thing this November.
I'm challenging the collective "you" to do the right thing, regardless of your political affiliation. The game has two participants and only one can be the winner. Don't inject extra complexity here. Do the right thing. That's it. Should be a super easy choice.
I've just smelled what the Rock is cooking.
It smells like rancid asshole.
More importantly, has anyone asked Ja Rule who he's endorsing?
Who the fuck cares? Fuck what the rock thinks.
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT THE ROCK THINKS!
So he's a piece of shit coward more interested in making money than helping his country, got it.
It sure would be nice if the political opinions of an actor wasn't important enough to report on.
IT DOESNT MATTER WHAT THE ROCK THINKS!
IT ONLY MATTERS WHAT THE ROCK IS COOKING!
He is complaining about wokeness. Gee, I wonder who he is voting for?
He's no different than millions of us that see another geriatric corporate owned genocide enabling POS
Yeah. That woke culture. terrible. The division. Imagine singling people out for being fascists.
If you ever cared what that absolue cunt is rhinking i feel bad for you.
I am just shocked that he isn't running for president.
I'm saving mine for Dwayne...
Elizondo Mountain Dew Camacho.
He has my vote any and every day! Brought to you by Carl's Jr.
He's saying he won't endorse Biden because he knows it's a divisive topic, not because he's a right-wing asshole like the others. Also, I think it's a good example of being self-aware enough to realize he has this massive following and a lot of power, and being responsible enough to consider that merely his opinions can sway a lot of people at once. It's an uplifting perspective from a celebrity, imho.
“Democracy is under attack but I’ve got a lot of influence so I should just stay quiet and use it to sell energy drinks instead.”
Cool take.
And he makes all his money on young impressionable males who care A LOT about their physique. I wonder which political demographic that affects...
Not taking a stance because that stance would be divisive is not a good argument.
People keep saying this, but I think you're all impossible to please. There are three general positions he could take
Somehow, for so many armchair political scientists on Lemmy, the 2nd and 3rd positions are indistinguishable from each other. And then the 1st position is an endorsement of genocide Joe. Democracy matters and genocide is bad therefore Biden is a bad candidate. And if you're not for Biden, then you're for Trump. But if you're not explicitly for Biden, then you're for also Trump. But if really cared about democracy and civility then must be for Biden, and openly, because Trump is just worse. But fuck Biden because genocide is bad.
This is nonsensical and impossible. What the hell is an acceptable stance on these issues?
Actually, I couldn't care less. Go square that circle with someone else. The Rock is as right as he's going to be by not explicitly supporting Biden or Trump because he doesn't want to cause division.
I did not equate endorsing nobody to endorsing Trump, so you can fuck off with that in a reply to me.
Hell yeah, fuck genocide Joe.. 🖕🖕
As opposed to well known anti-genocide Trump.
Genocide support is an American problem, not the acts of one President. If you think not voting for Biden will lead to less genocides/wars, you might want to double check that.