Does anybody have the link to the guy whose project car got booted on all four wheels, so he just put it on dollies, wheeled it into his garage, and told the boot company that they can have their boots back whenever they'd like but he's certainly not paying them anything?
Didn't a guy once park a tank in front of his house and told HOA if that don't like it they can move it.
Lmao, how/why did it get booted?
If I recall correctly, it was briefly parked on the street without an HOA parking pass while he reorganized his garage so that he'd have more space to work on it
The boot company ended up calling the cops on him for stealing their boots; "I didn't steal them, they can have them back whenever they want" was enough that the cops just laughed at the situation and fucked off
HOA's have the authority to fine you and take your property in some jurisdictions, truly should be illegal.
Yep, they put liens on your property and can foreclose on your house from under you, without you even knowing. They can put it up on auction and sell it without informing you.
Yeah, that's the part that always gets downplayed in these 'homeowner revenge' stories. HOAs can really fuck you over. Sometimes they get bankrupted in a lawsuit, sometimes you lose your sanity and your home.
look, hoa board have names and addresses.probably near you.
And you thought the lawnmower engine at 6 AM on a Saturday was annoying...
That's an endless point of debate here in Texass.
In the summer months, if you aren't done mowing by seven in the morning, you're gonna die of heat stroke.
Some HOAs actually have the right to foreclose on your home if you're behind on payments. It's insane.
The ability to foreclose is part of holding a lein, it's not some special power an HOA has.
"the ability is BECAUSE OF one of their self-granted special powers, not the self-granted special power itself"
Meh. There are plenty of good HOAs that make sure your neighbors aren't assholes as well as tank property value dying stupid shit.
As someone who lived in a neighborhood without an HOA, I completely agree with this. I had so many bad experiences with the neighborhood without the HOA. Aside from people not taking care of their yards or houses, including one person who replaced their grass with laminate tiles, there were much worse things.
There were constantly cars parked up and down the streets blocking your view and making it impossible for two cars to pass. We had two neighbors feuding over parking in front of each other's houses. One of them decided to line the curb with cones. And the other would just leave their trash can out 24/7 blocking the curb.
I had a neighbor start a computer refurb business out of their garage. Which caught on fire at least 3 times. One time it caught on fire and there were so many cars parked on the street the firetrucks couldn't make it to their house.
The neighborhood I live in now has the perfect balance. The HOA is run by a 3rd party who does not live in the neighborhood. And all rule changes require a meeting and at least half of the residents need to be in attendance before it can be taken to a vote. This keeps one neighbor from taking things over and turning into one of those nightmare HOAs you always hear about.
And they also pay to maintain shared services, like utilities and stormwater management. It's not black and white.
There's no need for a micro-state to accomplish these goals.
There has to be some entity. I won't disagree that they get out of control, but at the foundation they serve a very specific purpose. Once again, people are the problem. Perhaps AI will take over and robots will live in the houses.
There has to be some entity.
Community
Sewer main leaks. Need to replace a 6 foot section of 8 inch line right in the middle of the road. Also need to replace the connection to the city main because the mess of baby wipes clogging it damaged it and the city says it's unusable now. Effluent also damaged a gas line and the gas company says that needs to be replaced but they can work within the water company's schedule. Gonna cost like 800 grand. Tell me about the community? Because that's probably the insurance that the HOA procured who will cover the costs.
Sewer pipes and water mains are usually owned by the city around here. Gas mains owned by the utility. I don't understand why an HOA would come into play. Maybe if you're talking about a triple-decker style condo and the section of pipe between the street and the property, but no way in hell is that costing 800 grand.
I'm talking about subdivisions of single-family homes that requested greater density and as a giveback to the municipality remain private rights-of-way and utilities in exchange for greater density. You want to build 100 homes on 1-acre lots but the municipality has 2-acre zoning. It's a farm so there are no utilities and you're building it all from scratch. Municipalities will say sure you can do greater density, but you'll create an HOA for the maintenance of utilities and for the stormwater management BMPs you have on the property, and you'll create an operations and maintenance manual for those BMPs, and you'll bond with the municipality in the event you fail to maintain them. That's what HOAs are literally for, not for deciding on housing color and if you can fly a flag.
A functional community would not let infrastructure degrade to that point because it's not in the interest of the community. This event you're describing comes from greedy powerful people pushing off needed maintenance to buy a new Mercedes. The community would have systems in place to manage the infrastructure, infrastructure that could not be managed would not be built.
You're basically asking "how would anarcho-communists deal with this huge mess made by authoritarian capitalists?"
Who's paying for the maintenance? What happens in the event of an "act of God"? What is "the community" you speak of? I don't know what this has to do with greed. Things cost money. You need to have a structure for how costs are levied amongst homeowners. I don't get what is so difficult to understand. Would you prefer there just be a bunch of lawsuits when any little thing goes wrong?
If you're in a city, these things should be taken care of by the city and state. There is no need for an additional micro-state.
Never buy an HOA home. That simple. I've never been in an HOA and never will
Does anybody have the link to the guy whose project car got booted on all four wheels, so he just put it on dollies, wheeled it into his garage, and told the boot company that they can have their boots back whenever they'd like but he's certainly not paying them anything?
Didn't a guy once park a tank in front of his house and told HOA if that don't like it they can move it.
Lmao, how/why did it get booted?
If I recall correctly, it was briefly parked on the street without an HOA parking pass while he reorganized his garage so that he'd have more space to work on it
The boot company ended up calling the cops on him for stealing their boots; "I didn't steal them, they can have them back whenever they want" was enough that the cops just laughed at the situation and fucked off
https://forums.nicoclub.com/now-with-conclusion-audi-owner-gets-booted-and-is-sticking-it-to-them-t346387.html
There is a copy of it, the original appears no longer available
So, whatever happened to the guy?
Edit: full thread (via copy paste) here, including the final resolution to the story.
amazing thread lmfao
Yeah, it took a while to get through, but it was worth it to get to the end!
I gotchu
https://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?t=2732344
https://www.jeepforum.com/threads/epic-hoa-parking-boot-battle.572540/
All I see is a humble, happy hobbyist.
HOA's have the authority to fine you and take your property in some jurisdictions, truly should be illegal.
Yep, they put liens on your property and can foreclose on your house from under you, without you even knowing. They can put it up on auction and sell it without informing you.
They should be illegal.
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Yeah, that's the part that always gets downplayed in these 'homeowner revenge' stories. HOAs can really fuck you over. Sometimes they get bankrupted in a lawsuit, sometimes you lose your sanity and your home.
look, hoa board have names and addresses.probably near you.
And you thought the lawnmower engine at 6 AM on a Saturday was annoying...
That's an endless point of debate here in Texass.
In the summer months, if you aren't done mowing by seven in the morning, you're gonna die of heat stroke.
Some HOAs actually have the right to foreclose on your home if you're behind on payments. It's insane.
The ability to foreclose is part of holding a lein, it's not some special power an HOA has.
"the ability is BECAUSE OF one of their self-granted special powers, not the self-granted special power itself"
Meh. There are plenty of good HOAs that make sure your neighbors aren't assholes as well as tank property value dying stupid shit.
As someone who lived in a neighborhood without an HOA, I completely agree with this. I had so many bad experiences with the neighborhood without the HOA. Aside from people not taking care of their yards or houses, including one person who replaced their grass with laminate tiles, there were much worse things.
There were constantly cars parked up and down the streets blocking your view and making it impossible for two cars to pass. We had two neighbors feuding over parking in front of each other's houses. One of them decided to line the curb with cones. And the other would just leave their trash can out 24/7 blocking the curb.
I had a neighbor start a computer refurb business out of their garage. Which caught on fire at least 3 times. One time it caught on fire and there were so many cars parked on the street the firetrucks couldn't make it to their house.
The neighborhood I live in now has the perfect balance. The HOA is run by a 3rd party who does not live in the neighborhood. And all rule changes require a meeting and at least half of the residents need to be in attendance before it can be taken to a vote. This keeps one neighbor from taking things over and turning into one of those nightmare HOAs you always hear about.
And they also pay to maintain shared services, like utilities and stormwater management. It's not black and white.
There's no need for a micro-state to accomplish these goals.
There has to be some entity. I won't disagree that they get out of control, but at the foundation they serve a very specific purpose. Once again, people are the problem. Perhaps AI will take over and robots will live in the houses.
Community
Sewer main leaks. Need to replace a 6 foot section of 8 inch line right in the middle of the road. Also need to replace the connection to the city main because the mess of baby wipes clogging it damaged it and the city says it's unusable now. Effluent also damaged a gas line and the gas company says that needs to be replaced but they can work within the water company's schedule. Gonna cost like 800 grand. Tell me about the community? Because that's probably the insurance that the HOA procured who will cover the costs.
Sewer pipes and water mains are usually owned by the city around here. Gas mains owned by the utility. I don't understand why an HOA would come into play. Maybe if you're talking about a triple-decker style condo and the section of pipe between the street and the property, but no way in hell is that costing 800 grand.
I'm talking about subdivisions of single-family homes that requested greater density and as a giveback to the municipality remain private rights-of-way and utilities in exchange for greater density. You want to build 100 homes on 1-acre lots but the municipality has 2-acre zoning. It's a farm so there are no utilities and you're building it all from scratch. Municipalities will say sure you can do greater density, but you'll create an HOA for the maintenance of utilities and for the stormwater management BMPs you have on the property, and you'll create an operations and maintenance manual for those BMPs, and you'll bond with the municipality in the event you fail to maintain them. That's what HOAs are literally for, not for deciding on housing color and if you can fly a flag.
A functional community would not let infrastructure degrade to that point because it's not in the interest of the community. This event you're describing comes from greedy powerful people pushing off needed maintenance to buy a new Mercedes. The community would have systems in place to manage the infrastructure, infrastructure that could not be managed would not be built.
You're basically asking "how would anarcho-communists deal with this huge mess made by authoritarian capitalists?"
Who's paying for the maintenance? What happens in the event of an "act of God"? What is "the community" you speak of? I don't know what this has to do with greed. Things cost money. You need to have a structure for how costs are levied amongst homeowners. I don't get what is so difficult to understand. Would you prefer there just be a bunch of lawsuits when any little thing goes wrong?
If you're in a city, these things should be taken care of by the city and state. There is no need for an additional micro-state.
Never buy an HOA home. That simple. I've never been in an HOA and never will
HOA take house away