I fail to see the nuance in situations like residential schools. Could you perhaps educate me so I can come to a more informed conclusion than sending thousands of indigenous Canadians to schools designed to stripped them of their culture is a bad thing to do.
Oh we're not even talking about all the ones they straight up murdered and successfully hid for decades in mass graves?
Or the forced sterilisations of indigenous women... many of these things happening in recent years..
I swear i saw this exact post and exchange like 3 months ago O.O
Maybe you're a time traveller! If I were you, I would use this power for the silliest things as long as they're funny.
I'll try and not mess the timeline too much <3
When you piss in the primordial ooze, try to hit one of the clumps that will eventually crawl out of the ocean and lead to my genetic line.
Trust me, that proto-lifeform earned it.
Then don't reveal that you're a time traveller blabbermouth!
There were no forced sterilization of indigenous women in Canada on the basis of them being indigenous.
BC and Albert did use forced sterilization on inmates, homosexuals and mental hosiptal releases.
Indigenous women have been talked into sterilization though the years for the same racist eugenics law but that is very different than being forced.
There was no forced sterilization... but it was very incentivized, oh and inmates were forced to. Not the hottest take but nice aerobatics nonetheless
Down one all you want. Dipshit echo chamber.
"Am I out of touch? No, it must be an echo chamber."
Lemmy leans significantly harder left than Reddit did, I think. It's hard to have discussions about any of the leftist talking points.
Thankfully lemmy also doesn't have karma so who tf cares, right?
Truly, but enough people block you because you're being a insensitive piece of shit, you'll eventually see barely any new posts or comments.
Who's being insensitive?
Decades? The "Starlight Tours" have been happening more recently than that.
Oh, you're talking about the other thing. Too many of them to keep track of...
Starlight tours are so fucked up man
The country has acknowledged the atrocities of residential schools for many years. If you want to criticize the current state of affairs by all means go ahead, but you are not contributing to the discussion in any way by pointing out residential schools were a bad thing.
There is a large portion of the country that still denies it. In catholic schools they don’t take that native remembrance holiday off. Which is crazy to me.
BC just had the conservative party leader saying residential schools and SOGI are the same thing.
What’s SOGI
Sexual orientation and gender identity.
Oh. What a fucking idiot. How did he say they’re the same?
The R in lemmy stands for Reasonable good-faith discussion
I nor this post itself referenced residential schools before your inflammatory reply. Come back when you've taken off the internet boxing gloves.
Ok but at least explain where the nuance is missing?
Well for one there's been leaps and bounds in paying reparations to first Nations groups, and despite not paying taxes they still get regular economic, infrastructure, and other help from the government. We have an entire truth and reconciliation commission dedicated to fixing the mistakes of the past.
It's not a perfect situation and progress is needed, but reductive posts like this do nothing to help the discussion up here. Our own problems get drowned out by Americans simplifying them for their small brains and regurgitating
And 9/10 times when you see one of these posts, it's from an American (and/or largely commented on by Americans saying "Canada bad!")
We spent a hundred years as allies, and then the two dumbest presidents to ever exist poisoned our relationship, and now the only time an American even mentions Canada it's either to dunk on us for their own satisfaction or to make an argument in their senseless "Left" vs "Right" culture war screaming match.
I hated it at the time, but I legitimately miss the days when it was all "eh" and "hoser" and "maple syrup", sure it meant they didn't know anything about us, but at least it wasn't this endless negativity.
I honestly have no idea what you're talking about, left leaning Americans seem to talk about Canada positively all of the time, in reference to its health care system and generally aboit how they want their country to be more like Canada. The only thing negative they say is in reference how native people have been treated and still continue to be treated there which I think is right.
I am not from either country and this is just based on what I see Americans online say about Canada/Canadians.
You mean they mention us when it is politically convenient for them? That is exactly the "Left" vs "Right" culture war I was talking about, you disagreed with me then said exactly what I was saying lol, they only ever mention us to dunk on us (largely the right doing this, because they view us as a left wing country) or for their political screaming match (the left regarding healthcare, or again because they view us as a left wing country).
I fail to see the nuance in situations like residential schools. Could you perhaps educate me so I can come to a more informed conclusion than sending thousands of indigenous Canadians to schools designed to stripped them of their culture is a bad thing to do.
Oh we're not even talking about all the ones they straight up murdered and successfully hid for decades in mass graves?
Or the forced sterilisations of indigenous women... many of these things happening in recent years..
I swear i saw this exact post and exchange like 3 months ago O.O
Maybe you're a time traveller! If I were you, I would use this power for the silliest things as long as they're funny.
I'll try and not mess the timeline too much <3
When you piss in the primordial ooze, try to hit one of the clumps that will eventually crawl out of the ocean and lead to my genetic line.
Trust me, that proto-lifeform earned it.
Then don't reveal that you're a time traveller blabbermouth!
There were no forced sterilization of indigenous women in Canada on the basis of them being indigenous.
BC and Albert did use forced sterilization on inmates, homosexuals and mental hosiptal releases.
Indigenous women have been talked into sterilization though the years for the same racist eugenics law but that is very different than being forced.
There was no forced sterilization... but it was very incentivized, oh and inmates were forced to. Not the hottest take but nice aerobatics nonetheless
Down one all you want. Dipshit echo chamber.
"Am I out of touch? No, it must be an echo chamber."
Lemmy leans significantly harder left than Reddit did, I think. It's hard to have discussions about any of the leftist talking points.
Thankfully lemmy also doesn't have karma so who tf cares, right?
Truly, but enough people block you because you're being a insensitive piece of shit, you'll eventually see barely any new posts or comments.
Who's being insensitive?
Decades? The "Starlight Tours" have been happening more recently than that.
Oh, you're talking about the other thing. Too many of them to keep track of...
Starlight tours are so fucked up man
The country has acknowledged the atrocities of residential schools for many years. If you want to criticize the current state of affairs by all means go ahead, but you are not contributing to the discussion in any way by pointing out residential schools were a bad thing.
There is a large portion of the country that still denies it. In catholic schools they don’t take that native remembrance holiday off. Which is crazy to me.
BC just had the conservative party leader saying residential schools and SOGI are the same thing.
What’s SOGI
Sexual orientation and gender identity.
Oh. What a fucking idiot. How did he say they’re the same?
Oh yeah, they've acknowledged it alright.
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The R in lemmy stands for Reasonable good-faith discussion
I nor this post itself referenced residential schools before your inflammatory reply. Come back when you've taken off the internet boxing gloves.
Ok but at least explain where the nuance is missing?
Well for one there's been leaps and bounds in paying reparations to first Nations groups, and despite not paying taxes they still get regular economic, infrastructure, and other help from the government. We have an entire truth and reconciliation commission dedicated to fixing the mistakes of the past.
It's not a perfect situation and progress is needed, but reductive posts like this do nothing to help the discussion up here. Our own problems get drowned out by Americans simplifying them for their small brains and regurgitating
And 9/10 times when you see one of these posts, it's from an American (and/or largely commented on by Americans saying "Canada bad!")
We spent a hundred years as allies, and then the two dumbest presidents to ever exist poisoned our relationship, and now the only time an American even mentions Canada it's either to dunk on us for their own satisfaction or to make an argument in their senseless "Left" vs "Right" culture war screaming match.
I hated it at the time, but I legitimately miss the days when it was all "eh" and "hoser" and "maple syrup", sure it meant they didn't know anything about us, but at least it wasn't this endless negativity.
I honestly have no idea what you're talking about, left leaning Americans seem to talk about Canada positively all of the time, in reference to its health care system and generally aboit how they want their country to be more like Canada. The only thing negative they say is in reference how native people have been treated and still continue to be treated there which I think is right.
I am not from either country and this is just based on what I see Americans online say about Canada/Canadians.
You mean they mention us when it is politically convenient for them? That is exactly the "Left" vs "Right" culture war I was talking about, you disagreed with me then said exactly what I was saying lol, they only ever mention us to dunk on us (largely the right doing this, because they view us as a left wing country) or for their political screaming match (the left regarding healthcare, or again because they view us as a left wing country).